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Some of? Name names, or you just insulted everyone in this thread. In fact, your comment added nothing to the discussion ... except vulgarity.
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Greg Medford of Medford Knife and Tool
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Some of? Name names, or you just insulted everyone in this thread. In fact, your comment added nothing to the discussion ... except vulgarity.
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Thank you Esav and Rev Devil for your moderating excellence. We can always count on good honest people like you to keep this forum civil. We are always learning from each other and if were not then there isn't any tolerance for idiotic and non contributing posts.
Blade ninja I'm not sure if you've already purchased a Medford or not but like a ton of guys on the forum have stated I truly love mine. My personal favorite is the TTF3. It's a large knife but meant to work!!! Or look super awesome!!! Either way it's top quality fit and finish. Check it out if you get a sec. I also own a Praetorian which is also a beast!!!
As his earlier posts on the thread detailed; he purchased, used and subsequently sold a 187F, if you refer back to them I believe you will see he did quite a good job of explaining his impressions of the knife, both initial and eventual and the reason for passing it on as well the reasoning behind his disinclination to purchase another MKT piece.
I contribute regularly on this forum, but not every single of my posts can contain such brilliance.
If you want to bash a knife-maker for a story you heard from someone else in an internet forum, I think that qualifies. If you want to joke about a knife-maker's longevity in the business based of stories you heard from someone else in an internet forum, I think that qualifies too.
But point taken from RedDevil, I will tone down the language.
If you want to bash a knife-maker for a story you heard from someone else in an internet forum, I think that qualifies. If you want to joke about a knife-maker's longevity in the business based of stories you heard from someone else in an internet forum, I think that qualifies too.
But point taken from RedDevil, I will tone down the language.
All you need to do is watch his Youtube vids to see how he handles his warranty/ repair work. If you have a knife that needs work done Greg will take it as a personal insult.
Leave the customer service to the ladies and stick to grinding and sharpening. Just some friendly advice.
Leave the customer service to the ladies and stick to grinding and sharpening. Just some friendly advice.
I learned a long time ago not to judge any knife maker based on the negative posts from a few scattered users.
I have 4 Praetorians (one all black stealth carbon fiber, one brown G10 with flame lock side, one rainbow TI & a blue all TI Micro) I absolutely love them.
I have talked to both Greg & Amy & find their customer service to be outstanding. I don't blame him at all for his "don't take it apart" stance. He has way too many knives sent back that had been all messed up by the owner who then had a fit when he balked about fixing it for free.
I think the QC on these knives is absolutely outstanding. I carry the TI every day & it is solid as a rock. It has absolutely no play in any direction & locks up like a bank vault.
I have taken all my knives apart at one time or another. I always fix my own problems & can't imagine sending any knife back to the maker.
I also have a bunch of Emersons. I always take apart a new one, clean it out & lube with Extreme Fluoro grease. That makes any knife smoother & cuts break-in time.
~John
I have 4 Praetorians (one all black stealth carbon fiber, one brown G10 with flame lock side, one rainbow TI & a blue all TI Micro) I absolutely love them.
I have talked to both Greg & Amy & find their customer service to be outstanding. I don't blame him at all for his "don't take it apart" stance. He has way too many knives sent back that had been all messed up by the owner who then had a fit when he balked about fixing it for free.
I think the QC on these knives is absolutely outstanding. I carry the TI every day & it is solid as a rock. It has absolutely no play in any direction & locks up like a bank vault.
I have taken all my knives apart at one time or another. I always fix my own problems & can't imagine sending any knife back to the maker.
I also have a bunch of Emersons. I always take apart a new one, clean it out & lube with Extreme Fluoro grease. That makes any knife smoother & cuts break-in time.
~John
Interesting thread, thanks op for this. My take is:
1. I have no problems with any manufacturer listing do's and don't's, a purchase of anything over $500 these days will have it, tv, computer, knife.
2. Don't buy one second hand though! Imagine buying a used F-150, taking it to a Ford dealer because a wheel bearing was squealing, having them tell you it's going to cost $XXXX to repair, you tell them just leave it alone and you'll come get it, they say no, we're not giving it back until you pay up and we fix it!! I understand both sides of that coin, but Medford cannot do that. So the only safe option is to buy new.
3. Buying expensive knives should probably be done at knife shows, or dealers, where you can handle THE knife before you buy. I have not done this myself, but it would seem to be the wise choice, if possible.
1. I have no problems with any manufacturer listing do's and don't's, a purchase of anything over $500 these days will have it, tv, computer, knife.
2. Don't buy one second hand though! Imagine buying a used F-150, taking it to a Ford dealer because a wheel bearing was squealing, having them tell you it's going to cost $XXXX to repair, you tell them just leave it alone and you'll come get it, they say no, we're not giving it back until you pay up and we fix it!! I understand both sides of that coin, but Medford cannot do that. So the only safe option is to buy new.
3. Buying expensive knives should probably be done at knife shows, or dealers, where you can handle THE knife before you buy. I have not done this myself, but it would seem to be the wise choice, if possible.
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Besides deciding on whether you like that man or not, you get to see how the knives are made and anything else you might be interested on knowing about MKT.
He puts is all out there, love it or hate it, but at least respect that you can make an informed decision on the man, the company and the product.
I have two Praetorians, one is my EDC 24/7 365, the other is sitting in the safe.
I loved the knives the minute I saw them, but had some reservations on real world practicality.
I think you need to use one everyday for a while to realize that these (in my humble opinion) are the best made, best hard use EDC knives on the Market, that can do anything you ask of them, from chopping, to prying, to slicing tomatoes...
I have not purchased another knife in a while and can't see myself with anything else than a Praetorian in my pocket.
I have tried at least a hundred knives over the years, from production to full on customs, and these knives are just the perfect fit for *me.
*(What I like in a knife and how I use them)
The nice thing is, there are almost an infinite number of knives to love and or not so much, and maybe an MKT is not for you. That "not for you" thing should never be confused with "not good" .......
Opinions are wonderful, but first use something for a while, then share your opinion, otherwise it's really hard to take it seriously.
I don't own a BMW, so to sit here and tell you the pro's and con's of one would be rather idiotic.
Besides deciding on whether you like that man or not, you get to see how the knives are made and anything else you might be interested on knowing about MKT.
He puts is all out there, love it or hate it, but at least respect that you can make an informed decision on the man, the company and the product.
I have two Praetorians, one is my EDC 24/7 365, the other is sitting in the safe.
I loved the knives the minute I saw them, but had some reservations on real world practicality.
I think you need to use one everyday for a while to realize that these (in my humble opinion) are the best made, best hard use EDC knives on the Market, that can do anything you ask of them, from chopping, to prying, to slicing tomatoes...
I have not purchased another knife in a while and can't see myself with anything else than a Praetorian in my pocket.
I have tried at least a hundred knives over the years, from production to full on customs, and these knives are just the perfect fit for *me.
*(What I like in a knife and how I use them)
The nice thing is, there are almost an infinite number of knives to love and or not so much, and maybe an MKT is not for you. That "not for you" thing should never be confused with "not good" .......
Opinions are wonderful, but first use something for a while, then share your opinion, otherwise it's really hard to take it seriously.
I don't own a BMW, so to sit here and tell you the pro's and con's of one would be rather idiotic.
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Regarding Greg's "Do's and Don'ts", there is absolutely nothing I would consider out of line or unreasonable.
To summarize it:
- don't disassemble the knife
- don't use any lubricants, as it is not necessary
- care for your blade by lightly coating it with some gun oil and be mindful not to get oil in/around the lock face and pivot
- allow break in to happen and don't do your own round of "failure testing"
- don't modify or "pimp" your knife
- don't throw your knife
There are many knife manufacturers that void the warranty if the knife has been disassembled. Oil on semi-stainless steel is common for preventing rust and corrosion. "Failure testing" is considered abuse and is outside of the general intended use of the knife, so no surprise there about voiding the warranty. Same applies with pimping and modification.
No offense to those who get "butt-hurt" over it, but Greg's rules of ownership seem quite fair to me.
I should state that I own 6 Medfords. I love each and every one of them. I only had an "issue" with one, a pivot that was loosening on my Praetorian G (during break-in process). Called up Amy, she sent me an RMA within minutes of the call to get the "issue" addressed.
I understand some might be frustrated about the whole "why can't I fix my own knife" thing. I can easily fix the loosening pivot by cleaning the threads, applying loc-tite, and tighten with some makeshift tool (that may mar the pivot), however...that is not my investment in a Medford knife. My investment is having a "lifetime" tool and Greg's list clearly is there to basically say "don't do these things and you will have my full support for the lifetime of your knife".
All things in life have their "terms of ownership". This just so happens to be Medford's terms.
Nothing new. My Strider's "terms of ownership" involve doodling on the knife with sharpie.
To summarize it:
- don't disassemble the knife
- don't use any lubricants, as it is not necessary
- care for your blade by lightly coating it with some gun oil and be mindful not to get oil in/around the lock face and pivot
- allow break in to happen and don't do your own round of "failure testing"
- don't modify or "pimp" your knife
- don't throw your knife
There are many knife manufacturers that void the warranty if the knife has been disassembled. Oil on semi-stainless steel is common for preventing rust and corrosion. "Failure testing" is considered abuse and is outside of the general intended use of the knife, so no surprise there about voiding the warranty. Same applies with pimping and modification.
No offense to those who get "butt-hurt" over it, but Greg's rules of ownership seem quite fair to me.
I should state that I own 6 Medfords. I love each and every one of them. I only had an "issue" with one, a pivot that was loosening on my Praetorian G (during break-in process). Called up Amy, she sent me an RMA within minutes of the call to get the "issue" addressed.
I understand some might be frustrated about the whole "why can't I fix my own knife" thing. I can easily fix the loosening pivot by cleaning the threads, applying loc-tite, and tighten with some makeshift tool (that may mar the pivot), however...that is not my investment in a Medford knife. My investment is having a "lifetime" tool and Greg's list clearly is there to basically say "don't do these things and you will have my full support for the lifetime of your knife".
All things in life have their "terms of ownership". This just so happens to be Medford's terms.
Nothing new. My Strider's "terms of ownership" involve doodling on the knife with sharpie.
I have 5 Medfords, none of which were new when I bought them. It is like any other expensive item bought used, you need to trust the seller or have recourse such as free returns. I did my homework and got 5 like new knives for reasonable prices.
Greg will repair knives bought used. However, if there is evidence they have been taken apart, you will pay for the repair.
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I didn't have a good experience with Medford customer service. In particular Greg himself. He talked like he was God and how dare you question one of his knives. I have sold both my Panzer and TFF-2 and will never buy one again.
Would you care to elaborate (as to specifics), of what exactly transpired during this experience? I'm not taking sides here; it's just usually easier to make an informed judgment, when you get both sides, versions as to what actually took place (unfortunately we won't be hearing Mr. Medford's).
