HI Kerambit Design Thread

Originally posted by spence
Yep, although I don't care about the false edge.

A visual starter might be the Bura hanshee-M43 that munk has. Only, I'm thinking chiruwa, not partial-tang like munk's blade.

S.
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Chiruwa sounds great, but it *HAS* to have a false edge. That's what a Kerambit is all about! Without a false edge, it'd just be a hanshee 12" Siru! :barf:

Just kidding on the barfing, but without it, it's not as useful as a fighter...
 
Hibuke:

I agree that kerambits usually appear to have a double/false edge, although I handled one about 12 years back (an older, Indonesian blade with a handle so short that you could only grip it with two fingers - one through the ring) that did not. A false edge is fine with me.

I have made a number of napkin doodles of my idea over the past several months. Maybe I should send one of these to Dan to get the ball rolling.

S.
 
Originally posted by spence
...Maybe I should send one of these to Dan to get the ball rolling.
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Still waiting for people to send me pics...

It's real easy to talk it back and forth and get nowhere.

With a few more pictures to relate to, we can start the design engines roaring...:eek:
 
Dan:

I think that I still have your mailing address. I owe Stephen Hamilton a package anyway, so I'll try and kill multiple birds with one pass at the post office.

S.
 
Originally posted by pendentive
Still waiting for people to send me pics...

It's real easy to talk it back and forth and get nowhere.

With a few more pictures to relate to, we can start the design engines roaring...:eek:
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How does a hanshee-shaped 12" Siru sound? Does that need a pic? I can't draw to save my life...
 
Originally posted by Hibuke
How does a hanshee-shaped 12" Siru sound? Does that need a pic?
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I hate to nit-pick, but Yes, it does need a pic, or better yet, several pics.

Send me your idea of what "hanshee-shaped" means. ie. what knife comes to mind when you're think of a hanshee.


I'll purposely misuse a classic golden rule of poetry and prose to illustrate a point:

"Show, don't tell."
 
Not too large a blade - some of it's usefulness comes from being able to conceal it til it's too late for the opponent to react. Maybe on the lines and size of the spyderco Civilian but fixed blade?
 
Ball is officially rolling...:eek: :D

I received some interesting drawings the other day ;), and came up with a design. :cool:


Let's kick it off with a bunch-o-pics.



First, 3 kerambits taken off the internet:


Kerambit01.jpg



kerambit02.jpg



kerambit03.jpg



Now a CAD drawing showing the first three on top, followed by 2 designs underneath.


hanshee01.gif



Now some design decisions to support them:

1 - a smooth arc was used rather than the "hook" style. This makes it more "hanshee" like and more suited to khuk lovers.

2 - the only difference between the 2 designs is the way in which the finger loop is treated. As you can see in one of the kerambit pics above, the handle stops before the loop, whereas in the other 2 the loops is integral. I think if we had a good wood model, they really could do either one. It's just a matter of taste.

3 - the point is khuk-like instead of double-edged, kris-like as in the pics above.

4 - insert your comment here!

:D
 
The sketches made it, I take it.

I like your CAD drawings - a few mods, but very much what I had in mind.

What are you thinking about in terms of scale?

S.
 
Originally posted by spence
The sketches made it, I take it.
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Aha...

It was you who sent the drawings...

Perhaps it was the strange lighting in the room that day, but when an envelope shows up at my office with no name and a strange address from Arlington, VA - and as I cut it open with my SAK, little white particles gently glide out...:eek:

It makes for an interesting afternoon...:D

Thanks for the drawings, Spence. I wish I would have put 2 and 2 together, but was a bit absent minded when I got your letter. :footinmou


Originally posted by spence
I like your CAD drawings - a few mods, but very much what I had in mind. What are you thinking about in terms of scale?
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Thanks. It's not a finished product and is certainly open to discussion. Since it has a funny shape, it's difficult to give an OAL...let's just say I designed it to snugly fit within a 10" x 5" box.

The loop is about 1.5" Outside Diameter, 1.125" inside.
The handle is more or less 4.5" long (not including the loop).
The blade is probably about 7" along the outside curve.

It would not be as light and fast as the other kerambits but would definitely scare the buh-gee-bees out of just about anybody...:eek:

The handle was made long enough for several grips, with or without using the finger loop.

I like thinking about the sheath for this one...it would be something like the sheath in the first pic. We'd have to figure out someway of making it blade stay in tight, but other than that this would be a great belt carry - that is, tucked into your belt, rather than hanging.

The more I look at these pictures, the more excited I get. I think I'll probably end up on the list of takers for this one as well - (despite halfway agreeing with Rusty on "Kerambit-Kraziness") - this is going to be real nice and should be fairly inexpensive. :cool:
 
Wow! KEWL!!!

Originally posted by pendentive
Ball is officially rolling...:eek: :D

I received some interesting drawings the other day ;), and came up with a design. :cool:


Let's kick it off with a bunch-o-pics.



First, 3 kerambits taken off the internet:


Kerambit01.jpg



kerambit02.jpg



kerambit03.jpg



Now a CAD drawing showing the first three on top, followed by 2 designs underneath.


hanshee01.gif



Now some design decisions to support them:

1 - a smooth arc was used rather than the "hook" style. This makes it more "hanshee" like and more suited to khuk lovers.

2 - the only difference between the 2 designs is the way in which the finger loop is treated. As you can see in one of the kerambit pics above, the handle stops before the loop, whereas in the other 2 the loops is integral. I think if we had a good wood model, they really could do either one. It's just a matter of taste.

3 - the point is khuk-like instead of double-edged, kris-like as in the pics above.

4 - insert your comment here!

:D
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They're great! All of them! However, my preference leans towards them *SLIGHTLY* less bent, with a smidgen less belly, but that's just my AU$0.02, if u wanna take that into account, or not... :D
 
Originally posted by Hibuke
...However, my preference leans towards them *SLIGHTLY* less bent, with a smidgen less belly...
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I'll work something up and post another design.

Hibuke - could you trim your quote? Just click "edit" below your post and shorten the section in the "quoted" part so that the pictures are not included. Save wear and tear on the bladeforums server. Thanks!

Mike - you interested in this one...?
 
These designs are looking great. The hybrid kukri-kerambit (kukrambit? :) ) especially.
I do like the kerambits with the ring in the handle and a pommel spike, though. Like this custom kerambit from Szabo (szaboinc.com)

kerambit.jpg


I don't like the simple slab of metal design, but I do like having a spike or an extended blunt pommel (maybe just a bump on the ring) for pommel strikes.
 
I came up with another design with less belly and a more gentle curve - design #3.

Here's a pic: (design #2 on top, design #3 on bottom)

hanshee04.gif




Here's a pic with a grid overlay to help see the difference:

hanshee04.gif




Where's BruiseLeee when we need him? :confused: :rolleyes: :D
 
What am I getting blamed for? :confused:

I have a feeling that these are in the illegal grey area in my country. :( So I'm just watching from a distance.
 
Bruise - your response time is second to none...:D

I guess I've grown accustomed to my studies being accompanied by "Pan-knife" punnery...:p
 
Dan:

Sorry for the surprise. I figured that since you'd seen my return address before, that you'd realize who it was from.

I'm for the more curvy, though I think that either will work.

Hibuke:

I wanted something that would pack more striking power than the typical kerambit. Something that could chop as well as rip.

"Kukrambit"? I was thinking something more like the
"Spence Himalayan Imports Tarwar". But, I don't want to hog the credit.

S.
 
I like the slightly reduced belly, but I think you should keep the curve.

You guys need to quit designing knives. Every time you do it costs me money!! :grumpy: ;) :cool:
 
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