Hog Killer photos

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I don't care if someone wants to hunt them with a ninja sword and nunchucks as long as they're making dead pigs.

This sentence conjures up some seriously bizarre mental imagery. :confused::D

I agree though, nothing wrong with killing some violent hogs with a Junglas. It isn't like you were torturing them or poking them in the eyes with sticks or anything, you simply had to do what you had to do.

Also, I think I will be having a pork product today for lunch because of this thread. :cool:
 
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=781740

get your esee's here for a decent price. the man many posts up decided he didn't want his knives cause they do their job. lol wow either way to each his own but thats a fair price for a obvious killer junglas :)

Not being mean, just chatting :)

Wait, he's selling the whole Ontario and ESEE lineup because some stranger on planet earth killed a hog? Is that a bit silly? :p


I like the knives but I do not want this company's products in my collection any longer for this reason:You may want to look at this link before purchasing in case you don't want to be associated with this company either.

Hog Killer photos

Good luck with the sale.
 
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=781740

get your esee's here for a decent price. the man many posts up decided he didn't want his knives cause they do their job. lol wow either way to each his own but thats a fair price for a obvious killer junglas :)

That guy's reason for selling his RAT/ESEE stuff made me laugh, especially when you consider that the ESEE website has pictures of a 6 decapitating a Cayman right on the home page. It's like he just found out that sharp objects can be dangerous to living creatures. :jerkit:

Seriously, a knife is a tool. Sometimes you open boxes with it. Sometimes you peel an apple with it. Sometimes you have to kill a couple wild boars with it. When it comes down to it though, I would much rather have an ESEE on hand to take care of a dangerous and pestilent creature than some stranger's opinion about the morality of killing. :D

Hopefully someone buys his ESEEs and puts them to good use, since obviously he was not.
 
Having hunted deer, hogs, duck, dove, turkey, and whateverelseisinseason here in Texas, I can tell you the only thing Andrew did wrong was leave his sidearm at home. NEVER NEVER NEVER go hog hunting without one. My favorite deer rifle is a Marlin 30-30 and they just laugh at it.

Way to go buddy. Meanwhile, for your viewing pleasure - here's a photo from another rancher here who was fed up:

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Uh, yeah, you guys haven't made any cogent arguments as to why inflicting such pain to the animals in this instance is acceptable.

Like I said originally, I understand why these pigs are so maligned -- if there was an easy button you could push to make them all evaporate into thin air, I'm all for it. I'm just saying that there should be cleaner means to kill these animals for simply following their nature. Nunchuks, ninja swords and slicing the hogs a thousand times is NOT an ethical way of dispatching creatures capable of feeling pain.

And i'm certainly not a Liberal. Well, if being Liberal is not being retarded, maybe I am. I can tell you that I'm vehemently pro-death penalty. I'm talking about China-style: take them out into a field a week after trial, clean shot to the head from an AK and bill their family for the bullet. Torture should definitely be on the table, with consideration to the severity and spirit of the crime. Still think i'm a hippie, love-everyone liberal?

However, these hogs didn't have anyone in danger nor were they acting malicious. I'm blown away by people bringing up the "life-or-death" and "these-hogs-could-have-gored-him" arguments because he had to chase them down! I understand they're pests, so killing six from afar with a rifle is fair play. But hacking away at meat and bone while the animal is still alive is excessive.
 
Having hunted deer, hogs, duck, dove, turkey, and whateverelseisinseason here in Texas, I can tell you the only thing Andrew did wrong was leave his sidearm at home. NEVER NEVER NEVER go hog hunting without one. My favorite deer rifle is a Marlin 30-30 and they just laugh at it.

Way to go buddy. Meanwhile, for your viewing pleasure - here's a photo from another rancher here who was fed up:

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that old guy with the piglet in his mouth is my hero.
 
That guy's reason for selling his RAT/ESEE stuff made me laugh, especially when you consider that the ESEE website has pictures of a 6 decapitating a Cayman right on the home page. It's like he just found out that sharp objects can be dangerous to living creatures. :jerkit:

Seriously, a knife is a tool. Sometimes you open boxes with it. Sometimes you peel an apple with it. Sometimes you have to kill a couple wild boars with it. When it comes down to it though, I would much rather have an ESEE on hand to take care of a dangerous and pestilent creature than some stranger's opinion about the morality of killing. :D

Agreed.

Weirdos :p
 
We have a huge problem with feral Hog's in Louisiana as well. They can expand in numbers very quickly and do considerable damage to property if there numbers are not kept in control. I consider myself a ethical hunter. There are times, especially when dealing with a large pack, the killing can get sloppy. If I am using a rifle, I will shoot them in the head, but normally you would only get one. If I am going after a pack, I prefer a 12 ga. with 3inch 000 Buckshot so I can get multiple kills. Sometimes, things don't always go to plan, I think the poster did what he felt was right at the time. At any rate, they are great eating, Deer and Wild Hog are a large part of my diet. I prefer it to store bought meat. Congrats on the successful hunt.
 
I've never tried wild hog and I wish I could! Man, that would be awesome to just hunt hog all the time and save big on your grocery bill, especially with how much meat i eat.

For sure, I can see killing getting a bit sloppy in the heat of the moment and when you have dangerous animals running every which way. I'm glad that you consciously try to mitigate suffering, though. Like another poster said, bringing a handgun to finish up the job instead of a knife is preferable in all cases for all parties involved. Redundancy in hunting can be a good thing -- for the hunter's safety as well as for the ethical killing of the prey.
 
Do hogs not bleed if you cut them open while the heart is still beating?
I dont see any blood around those shoulder wounds!
 
I just realized something. Maybe Andrew, in a display of utmost efficiency, was killing AND butchering the hogs at the same time? It's a two-birds-one-stone (or I guess in this case, two-hogs-one-Junglas) kinda thing really. :D
 
LOL at the dude selling his knives because "ESEE doesn't appear to uphold ethical animal killing".

I could understand if the guy was out slashing at peoples pets or random protected wildlife... but give me a break. Andrew found an effective solution to his boomboomstick being empty. If you really wanted to get whiney about it just argue it was self-defense... those hogs could probably mess you up pretty good if you didn't fight back.

And that picture of the grandpa with a piglet hanging out of his teeth? HILARIOUS :D

I'm gonna say good on ya to Andrew. Don't let anyone who is "disturbed" by what you did make you feel bad in any way.

This makes me want a junglas even more... so those few sourpuss's out there can stuff it.
 
"If you really wanted to get whiney about it just argue it was self-defense... those hogs could probably mess you up pretty good if you didn't fight back."

Self defense? He ran at the damn hogs, dude! You know how you don't get gored by hogs? By not running at them and putting himself in that danger in the first place. What is with people defending the NEEDLESS suffering of animals? Can people not muster the iota of mental capability to understand it's the right thing to do to not inflict extraneous pain on an animal that's simply following its nature?
 
Do hogs not bleed if you cut them open while the heart is still beating?
I dont see any blood around those shoulder wounds!

I was thinking the same thing. I wouldn't expect too much blood with how tough the little bastards are, but if the ordeal went as described, there should be some. Also curious is the lack of any cuts showing on the hog's face; particularly the black one if it was trying to gore him and only held back due to the length of the blade.

Given the pictures and the story, I have a hard time buying it. The orientation of the cuts are not consistent with swinging at a running or charging hog. The general lack of blood and lack of cuts on the head and snout appear to support a BS flag as well. I am a bit surprised it has taken this long for anyone to question it.
 
"If you really wanted to get whiney about it just argue it was self-defense... those hogs could probably mess you up pretty good if you didn't fight back."

Self defense? He ran at the damn hogs, dude! You know how you don't get gored by hogs? By not running at them and putting himself in that danger in the first place. What is with people defending the NEEDLESS suffering of animals? Can people not muster the iota of mental capability to understand it's the right thing to do to not inflict extraneous pain on an animal that's simply following its nature?

But are the reasons behind him doing this wrong?

You wouldn't let rats run free in your restaurant would you?

They are damaging people's livelyhood. And several other people have already posted saying there is an overpopulation, an actual infestation of these "pests" now.

It's worse than the overpopulation of Deer in BC and elsewhere. Yet we don't have the freedom of taking the problem into our own hands.

Fine, we'll let the "self-defense" quote go. Fair enough with what you said.

As andrew said before, he killed them as quickly and cleanly as possible. You notice in the pictures the majority of the cuts are all in one place. He didn't just randomly slash at it, he went for the quickest, cleanest kill humanly possible with the tools he had left.
 
I don't hunt, although we will trap and snare on some survival training. I'm just not into killing anything. In fact, I have a small herd of deer that are in my yard regularly that I enjoy watching - in the "off" season. Now, with all the said, come gardening time war will once again be declared on the herd once they step foot into my garden and start raping my peach trees. Will use head shots from a .22 rifle to take out any and every size and shape of these bastards, then take the front-end loader and shove them down into a draw for the buzzards to eat. Yes, I've tried the electric fence thing and a half-million other methods to keep them out of my green beans - a .22 works the best and if I could chase them down with a Junglas I would do so and chop their damn head off. So, to put it bluntly, I have zero problems with anyone hunting hogs in Texas with any and all means possible. I've got some good friends in Falfurias that own 60 acres. They raise a garden on it and one round of hogs coming through can wipe it out with the devastation they are capable of. Shoot 'em, cut em, use C4, call in an air strike, put Al Queda on them....whatever. I have no problem with it.

I'm pretty much of the same attitude. I have no problem with ethical hunting practices, but have little draw to the activity myself. Perhaps someday. :)

Feral hogs are a huge problem, and there isn't much to be done about it save for culling the herds as well as we can.
 
No doubt -- I'm extremely supportive of Andrew helping with the problem they have there in Texas. I'm really not against killing hogs at all, just the the fact that the hogs got hacked a bunch before they expired.

At any rate, what's done is done. Although the pics made me think about the pain that was involved, they also made me want a Junglas because they obviously work in the field. No hard feelings toward either ESEE or Andrew though -- just different perspectives on tackling the same problem. Cheers all!
 
Looks like the Rancher and the older Gentleman in the Dallas photo had their work cut out for them,no pun intended.:D
 
As I have already said, I don't kill things simply for the joy of killing. Hell, I relocate poisonous snakes from my yard to the back side of the farm simply because I don't like killing things. With that said, I am FIRMLY behind anyone who wishes to hunt, however they choose to do so as long as it falls within game laws (Hog hunting in this manner oviously does) and we let several people hunt our property every year to help cull the deer herd. Typically I end up field dressing and skinning a lot of their kills. So, I'm not squeamish about anything to do with killing, but it's just not for me unless it is necessary and the bastards are topping my green beans :D
 
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