Hollywood - Knives worse enemy?

I live near Hollywood. Believe me, they have heavy influence on our State laws and how the media reports news.
 
marcinek said:
....Stuff like that always has, and always will sell. They are sexy.
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There is something intuative about practical designs that just makes it seem more useful or helpful than others. Sometimes a large knife simply seems capable of doing more, and that may be totally irespective of its potential use as a weapon. Perhaps the user believes the larger knife can better leverage energy into greater cutting and chopping power.

With experience, we learn that all knives are not created equal, and that little things like edge geometry, metal properties, sheath quality, design stability and grip compatability, go a long ways towards determining the utility of our cutting tools. But, we all start in the same place. We learn, we advance, we buy better; we age, we tire, so we learn to go with better and smaller, wiser and smarter. ...

Forget the weapon's angle. As has been stated aready, just about anythig can and has been used as a weapon. Calling something a weapon is an easy way to demonize a common tool - it is a low hanging branch for the ill informed.

I have a friend who once purchased an assault rifle. He didn't buy it to shoot people, to hang on the wall as a decoration or to help with roaming hoards of imaginary zombies. He bought it because he had gone deer hunting with a Remington Woodmaster the month before and the cheap plastic noise cover on the charging handle had cracked in the cold. It had made his rifle inoperable and spoiled his hunting trip. It was so difficult to replace the bit of plastic that he ended up sending it to a gun smith for repairs. So he bought an "assault rifle" in the same caliber, the same action, and went with a 5 round magazine so it would be perfectly legal to hunt with in his state. The new rifle offerered a sturdier quality of construction and design, and could be readily and simply field stripped if needed. It was a purely practical choice.

n2s
 
not2sharp said:
There is something intuative about practical designs that just makes it seem more useful or helpful than others. Sometimes a large knife simply seems capable of doing more, and that may be totally irespective of its potential use as a weapon. Perhaps the user believes the larger knife can better leverage energy into greater cutting and chopping power.

With experience, we learn that all knives are not created equal, and that little things like edge geometry, metal properties, sheath quality, design stability and grip compatability, go a long ways towards determining the utility of our cutting tools. But, we all start in the same place. We learn, we advance, we buy better; we age, we tire, so we learn to go with better and smaller, wiser and smarter. ...

Forget the weapon's angle. As has been stated aready, just about anythig can and has been used as a weapon. Calling something a weapon is an easy way to demonize a common tool - it is a low hanging branch for the ill informed.

I have a friend who once purchased an assault rifle. He didn't buy it to shoot people, to hang on the wall as a decoration or to help with roaming hoards of imaginary zombies. He bought it because he had gone deer hunting with a Remington Woodmaster the month before and the cheap plastic noise cover on the charging handle had cracked in the cold. It had made his rifle inoperable and spoiled his hunting trip. It was so difficult to replace the bit of plastic that he ended up sending it to a gun smith for repairs. So he bought an "assault rifle" in the same caliber, the same action, and went with a 5 round magazine so it would be perfectly legal to hunt with in his state. The new rifle offerered a sturdier quality of construction and design, and could be readily and simply field stripped if needed. It was a purely practical choice.

n2s
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Your friend actually went through all of the paperwork, paid and waited for the about $4000 tax stamp, then spent the time and money to buy a legally transferable machine gun to hunt with ?
Talk about crazy.
 
Hickory n steel said:
Your friend actually went through all of the paperwork, paid and waited for the about $4000 tax stamp, then spent the time and money to buy a legally transferable machine gun to hunt with ?
Talk about crazy.
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1) Glad you edited out the part about hanging it on the wall...that was not what not2sharp not2sharp said. You gotta read stuff.

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2) What is crazy about it? not2sharp said

"The new rifle offerered a sturdier quality of construction and design, and could be readily and simply field stripped if needed. It was a purely practical choice."

How is a purely practical choice crazy?
 
Depends ENTIRELY on the point-of-view of the individual. I carry a 1911, a Dan Wesson Bobtail Commander. In my eyes, it is eminently practical. But if you happen to be a Glock fan-boy, it's too heavy, doesn't carry enough rounds, and its 100yr old technology is outdated.(never mind that almost all modern semi-auto handguns use at least one of the mechanical features of the 1911, such as the dropping breech unlocking system) To THESE people, my choice is crazy, most especially since I spent $1000 on this weapon 10 years ago.
 
I can agree with hickorynsteel to a point. If i am at shooting range and someone asks me what is in his hands? I will answer a rifle. I would not answer "a weapon". If someone needs a knife to cut open a box, they would not ask, "does anyone have a weapon so i can open this box". It is a matter of context. personally i would only describe a gun or a knife as weapon if someone were in the process of using it to attack others. For the sake of our knife rights, We as knife users want the public to consider knives as tools, not weapons.
 
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microtech85 said:
I can agree with hickorynsteel to a point. If i am at shooting range and someone asks me what is in his hands? I will answer a rifle. I would not answer "a weapon". If someone needs a knife to cut open a box, they would not ask, "does anyone have a weapon so i can open this box". It is a matter of context. personally i would only describe a gun or a knife as weapon if someone were in the process of using it to attack others. For the sake of our knife rights, We as knife users want the public to consider knives as tools, not weapons.
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But some things ARE weapons, or at the very least awful tools. No, I do not call my guns weapons. That's too broad of a terms honestly. But if you ask me, "Is your 9mm pistol a weapon?" I'm not going to say no. I bought it to protect myself. Just like my Gerber MK ii, they can call it a "survival knife" all they want. It was designed to take out enemies.

Just because I have never shot or stabbed anyone, it doesn't make some things any less of a weapon. Still that doesn't mean that everything that COULD be used as one is necessarily a public menace.
 
W. Anderson said:
As long as I'm in a locale that allows carry of knives as weapons, I absolutely will continue to refer as my defensive knives as weapons. Because they are. Sorry guys.
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Is a santoku a weapon? Is a Leatherman that has a blade a weapon? Is an axe a weapon? Is a sak classic a weapon? Do you refer all knves as weapons?

I'm interested to know.
 
W. Anderson said:
As long as I'm in a locale that allows carry of knives as weapons, I absolutely will continue to refer as my defensive knives as weapons. Because they are. Sorry guys.
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I personally don't carry knives as weapons but if you want to carry and consider your cutting tools weapons there's nothing wrong with that. ( I say cutting tools assuming they do get used to cut stuff daily when the defensive situations hopefully never come )

I was speaking a bit general in my previous comments but what I was getting at is that " weapon " is a term used far too often to refer to all knives and guns in general and I'd like to see the word avoiding.
I didn't go about saying it the best way, but that's what I was saying.
 
Hickory n steel said:
I personally don't carry knives as weapons but if you want to carry and consider your cutting tools weapons there's nothing wrong with that. ( I say cutting tools assuming they do get used to cut stuff daily when the defensive situations hopefully never come )

I was speaking a bit general in my previous comments but what I was getting at is that " weapon " is a term used far too often to refer to all knives and guns in general and I'd like to see the word avoiding.
I didn't go about saying it the best way, but that's what I was saying.
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Roger that. :))
 
shinyedges said:
Is a santoku a weapon? Is a Leatherman that has a blade a weapon? Is an axe a weapon? Is a sak classic a weapon? Do you refer all knves as weapons?

I'm interested to know.
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Of course not, just ones I carry or own for a defensive purpose. Eye of the beholder I guess. Don't worry, I'm not a Walmart ninja.
 
I think steelygunz and mine argument can both be right. For instance, i consider a dagger a weapon because i see no practical use for it besides attacking a person. Again, i think it is context, and intended use changes context. Unless a knife is designed specifically for inflicting harm, i will consider it a tool. I consider my 9mm a firearm though. If i were going into war, i would then describe the gun as a weapon because i would be carrying it specifically to inflict harm on another. Really, it comes down to context.
 
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