How public are you with your knives?

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Nothing wrong with carrying a weapon if it's in a legal environment. There are better weapons of course. In the back of my mind, I know that just about any knife can be used as a weapon. Some are better than others for this purpose. It's a purpose and knife type that I generally don't spend a lot of time day dreaming about what knife to choose.

If I carry my Dozier K-6 Companion in its kydex belt sheath to the store and I have my SAK in my pocket, am I likely carrying the Dozier as a weapon? Probably.
 
If we look at it from a public safety standpoint, I think we can agree that
A) Some things are inherently more dangerous than others and thus worthy of tighter regulations
B) Some situations pose great chances of bad things being done to more people and warrant tighter regulations.

I'm flying on a commercial flight as I type this and accept that planes, by their nature are dangerous and I'm glad that there are tight regulations on who is allowed to fly them.

Likewise, I also recognize that a commercial flight offers a higher risk of bad things being done, so I'm glad that things like big knives are prohibited in carry on (although really, the US should adopt the EU standard and allow small pen blades so I won't have to carry a de-bladed Mirca as I am).

I think if we can accept common sense understandings that a) people aren't nuts to see our knives, particularly our larger knives and fixed/locking knives, as inherently more dangerous than other day to day objects and b) there are contexts where people will be more or less accepting of a knife being used, things will go a lot smoother and will be less likely to go knee jerk and overboard on restrictions (like the current TSA ban on all blades is).

Look at it from a public safety standpoint? Why would I want to do that?

Ask me to look at something from a "personal responsibility first" standpoint and then we will have something to build on. I will go so far as to agree that some things can be more dangerous than others. Worthy of tighter regulations? Maybe not. Your statement is too vague to take any farther.

"Some situations pose great chances of bad things being done to more people." OK, I will agree with that. Warrant tighter regulations? Well, let's see, "common sense" would dictate that if people were in smaller groups, there would be less of a chance of bad things happening to as many people. Let's cut to the chase and regulate this to the simplest, most logical solution and suspend our constitutional right of assembly. Smaller groups of people, less people in danger. Right? You and I both know it is absurd. Just like most of the laws and regulations covering knives and guns. Good laws impact the least amount of the population possible, protecting the rights, privileges, and free agency of the masses.

Oh, the aircraft thing. I am safer in the air than behind the wheel of my wife's SUV. See what pops up when you Google, Is flying safe? The fact that someone can't fly with a pocket knife really does not come into play much, if at all. Aircraft design, maintenance and the airlines safety record do.

The "common sense" understandings that you desire us to accept are far from complete. Some people will see a legally carried knife in public and attach their morals and intent to a simple chunk of wood and metal sharpened to a point. They never consider their environment or the actions of those around them. Especially, those of the knife owner. They just jump to the conclusion that knives (guns, motorcycles, etc.) are evil, dangerous and they should feel unsafe because of it.

These folks fall into the category of the population that I personally consider sheeple. I try to take their fears into consideration when I carry or use a blade. Just a little.
It's to protect my knife rights. You might even say it's common sense.
 
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By what criteria do we come up with "legal" speed limits? It's the same basic principle.

The answer for speed limits is both arbitrary and common sense. 65mph is generally legal on highways and 66mph is generally not (there are exceptions, but you get the point). I generally break the legal speed limit every time I drive on the highway. I bet you do too. Usually I drive between 70 and 75. But this doesn't mean that there should be no speed limit. Speed limits let the cops selectively enforce the law and this keeps speeds manageably safe. Weaving in and out at 70mph will get you busted. Driving at 80mph will often get you busted. We all live with this.

The most common length restriction on knives that I've encountered or read about is a 3" limit for general carry in public. That's a bummer for me since I prefer blades in the 3.5" range but then, I find 55mph speed limits on some hiways to be a bummer since I prefer to drive 70.

But, I accept the need for some roads to have a lower speed limit and I accept the need for some higher crime municipalities to have blade length restrictions.

And finally and painfully trying to get this back on on-topic, I let these laws inform my behavior. I don't drive 70 in a school zone just like I don't carry a knife into a courthouse or school. I'm very careful when I drive 70 in a 55 zone (and I do, just like you do) just like I'm more careful when I carry a 3.5" bladed knife in a place with a 3" limit. And I don't clean my fingernails with a legal knife while sitting on a park bench even though it's legal just like I don't cut people off or tailgate in my car because while legal, this is just acting like a jerk. It upsets people needlessly. And lastly, when somebody cuts me off needlessly, I honk at them to let them know they're being a jerk. I don't worry about upsetting people who feel it's their right to be jerks in public.

What are you talking about? 66mph is absolutely legal if the flow of traffic is going that fast. If the flow of traffic is going 75mph and you're going 65, you can actually be pulled over for obstructing the flow. Please don't tell me you're "that guy" going 65 in the fast lane while big rigs are passing you....
 
What are you talking about? 66mph is absolutely legal if the flow of traffic is going that fast. If the flow of traffic is going 75mph and you're going 65, you can actually be pulled over for obstructing the flow. Please don't tell me you're "that guy" going 65 in the fast lane while big rigs are passing you....

I think you're picking here for no reason at all. Bit of a troll post. Pinnah already said he prefers to drive 70mph even on highways with a posted 55mph speed limit. He believes that so called reasonable restrictions are okay for public safety whether it be guns or knives. What's reasonable is where I split from him, but that is neither here nor there in this post.

That aside, if the speed limit is 65mph, you will not likely be pulled over for 66 mph. Going with the flow at whatever speed in excess of the speed limit means nothing if the officer chooses you to pull over. Been there.
 
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It only comes out of my pocket when I need it, and if somebody ever says anything then I usually reply with "it's a tool, not a weapon" or something along those lines and just go on like it's no big deal... because it's not...

I'm not shy about wearing camo, workboots, etc but I don't really wear knife/gun/political specific stuff. I would if it was something that only fellow enthusiasts would know (like the AR15 bolt face logo) if I had it, but I live in a VERY liberal part of California, and I'm a public school employee. All these open-minded, tolerant folk don't take too kindly to such things!
 
What I've also said is that I find people who carry fixed blades in public without a working need to be, well, rude. The US no longer has a fixed blade culture and given the state of locking folders, I view people who carry a fixed blade with no work related need for one as going out of their way to cause a stir and beg for a reaction. Note, where legal, I will often have a fixed blade in my pack with me because I dig having a fixed blade. But, I'm not going to walk with it on my belt nor am I going to be pulling it out in public unless I'm in a place where I'm assured it won't upset people. I consider that just being considerate.
So basically you are saying people shouldn't do it because you say so? Where I live the law says I have to carry a fixed blade on my belt and it has to be visible otherwise I am in violation of the law, so your saying I should either break the law or not carry a fixed blade in public neither of which is a good option for me.
 
So basically you are saying people shouldn't do it because you say so? Where I live the law says I have to carry a fixed blade on my belt and it has to be visible otherwise I am in violation of the law, so your saying I should either break the law or not carry a fixed blade in public neither of which is a good option for me.

And because you say the alternative of a folder is not good enough for you, that carries more weight? What he says is basic common sense. It isn't the 1830s wild west in most urban places anymore... For the overwhelming majority, there is absolutely no rational justification for an openly carried fixed blade in an urban setting... The reason the law asks you to carry a fixed blade openly is because the law wants it to be uncomfortable for you to do so... The law makers just never figured that some are so oblivious to social standing and public perception that they would still go through with it...

Gaston
 
Living in Germany, I have to be very careful. Even when carrying knives that are totally legal here, I don't take it out to use it in public unless I absolutely need to. Unfortunately, the public perception of knives here is a lot different. I never, ever carry a fixed blade unless I'm camping because, even if it's legal, I am guaranteed to get negative attention. There are many people like Pinnah here, including the police, who find the sight of a small fixed blade in its sheath frightening and rude (we're talking almost sub 3 inches). Even in a camping setting or on a hike with other outdoor enthusiasts, it draws way too much attention. I imagine one of the only socially acceptable scenarios here would be to do so while hunting. It is unfortunate, but it is reality. I restrict myself to carrying a SAK Recruit or a GEC#74 because pulling anything else out in public is just a bad idea.

I had a conversation about the perception of knives in Europe with the owner of a local knife shop here in Stuttgart. He was of the opinion that knives are tools, and people shouldn't be afraid of them if they're carried and used in a safe, responsible manner. I asked him if he'd ever carry a small fixed blade on his belt and he told me hell no. He said it's an easy way to get a visit from the Polezei. I wish it wasn't that way, but it is what it is.

I think I could probably pull out my small Sebenza without raising too many concerned eyebrows, but it is illegal here.
 
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I try to gage where I'm going and choose a knife accordingly. If I'm going to dinner at a fancy place I won't bring my ZT 0562CF because someone will get all freaked out when they hear that big Thwack when it opens. Instead I'll bring my Lionsteel SR2A and that knife can be a conversation starter with a non knife person. But I have no problem pulling whatever knife I brought out to use.
 
And because you say the alternative of a folder is not good enough for you, that carries more weight? What he says is basic common sense. It isn't the 1830s wild west in most urban places anymore... For the overwhelming majority, there is absolutely no rational justification for an openly carried fixed blade in an urban setting... The reason the law asks you to carry a fixed blade openly is because the law wants it to be uncomfortable for you to do so... The law makers just never figured that some are so oblivious to social standing and public perception that they would still go through with it...

Gaston
First of all I never said I wouldn't or couldn't carry a folder, Second of all my opinion carries more weight because the law says I can legally carry a fixed blade knife.
 
And because you say the alternative of a folder is not good enough for you, that carries more weight? What he says is basic common sense. It isn't the 1830s wild west in most urban places anymore... For the overwhelming majority, there is absolutely no rational justification for an openly carried fixed blade in an urban setting... The reason the law asks you to carry a fixed blade openly is because the law wants it to be uncomfortable for you to do so... The law makers just never figured that some are so oblivious to social standing and public perception that they would still go through with it...

Gaston

Yea OK, more horse manure. Keep it up.
 
And because you say the alternative of a folder is not good enough for you, that carries more weight? What he says is basic common sense. It isn't the 1830s wild west in most urban places anymore... For the overwhelming majority, there is absolutely no rational justification for an openly carried fixed blade in an urban setting... The reason the law asks you to carry a fixed blade openly is because the law wants it to be uncomfortable for you to do so... The law makers just never figured that some are so oblivious to social standing and public perception that they would still go through with it...

Gaston

Because I can is rational justification enough for me.

Hmmm, so open carry knife laws are on the books to make it socially damning enough to the wearer that they will hopefully chose not to wear them? You sure it has nothing to do with preventing concealed knives? I didn't write them so I don't know. The former just sounds like a wacky,roundabout, and almost counterproductive way to get someone to do something.

Not sure what social standing has to do with anything. Public perception is kind of the point of this thread. As a personal member of the public, I would be much more threatened by someone running around the super market waving their open Spyderco Dragonfly in the air than the person discretely using their Becker 5 to slit and up open an ear of corn to check to see if it's fresh. Attitude and actions should be a bigger factor than the chosen tool on the belt or in the pocket.
 
Hey everybody,

I was just curious as to how public everyone is with their knives, because to some degree it is looked down upon/scares the sheeple. Do y'all show your knives to other people only during use, or do you bring knives up in everyday conversation, or maybe wear knife-related clothing, post pictures of your blades on social media, etc? Also please tell if you live in a more politically left-leaning or right-leaning area.

Thanks.
I can't ever recall anyone ever being scared of my knives or my use of my knives. I just use them, publically and privately. Knives are tools, and that's how I use them. I don't show them unless some one asks about them (rarely) and don't bring them up in conversation unless that's the topic of discussion (rarely).

Excepting at work. I OC an S&W M13. If anyone were to be scared or shocked about what I carry (which I have not experienced), it would be because of that. I live in a purple area. Neither left or right leaning. A purple area in a purple/swing state.
 
And because you say the alternative of a folder is not good enough for you, that carries more weight? What he says is basic common sense. It isn't the 1830s wild west in most urban places anymore... For the overwhelming majority, there is absolutely no rational justification for an openly carried fixed blade in an urban setting... The reason the law asks you to carry a fixed blade openly is because the law wants it to be uncomfortable for you to do so... The law makers just never figured that some are so oblivious to social standing and public perception that they would still go through with it...

Gaston

Though I live in the city, I see many people driving pick-up trucks. For most of those people, there is absolutely no rational justification for driving a Crew-Cab Dually-wheeled truck to commute to work. I drive a Toyota Corolla, and I think everyone else should, unless they can show that they are farmers. The highways would be safer, and pollution would be reduced.

But seriously. I live in Texas, and people in my area are generally not alarmed to see a knife being used or carried. I imagine if someone were waving one around, or even sitting and flicking a folder open & closed repeatedly while staring creepily off in the distance, it might raise some eyebrows.
 
There have been threads bringing up fixed blade knife carry as a point of discussion. I feel somewhat like Gaston, but not entirely. I sometimes will carry a fixed blade knife just for the hell of it, but not in the downtown business area. It's not a normal kind of thing for me, but I have done it. What I learned is I still prefer a folder in just about any setting unless it is in the woods/trail and even there, I always reach for the folder first because I am conditioned to grab my folder first when I need to cut something (knife task).

I don't condemn anyone for wanting to carry a fixed blade knife in an urban setting, but I think one needs to show some common sense about their choices in general. Yeah, I know.... common sense as defined by me. :D

R8Shell, people from other countries don't understand the fascination of Americans driving their big pickups around town all the time as their normal day to day vehicle.
 
I've always carried a knife since I was a kid & I've never had anybody have to retreat to their "safe space" when I've gotten them out to use.
 
I've always carried a knife since I was a kid & I've never had anybody have to retreat to their "safe space" when I've gotten them out to use.

Me too. The only reaction I have ever had was a second look at a knife that was larger than "normal" in a public setting. But even that was pretty tame.

Walmart IS the testing ground for all kinds of things whether it be the carrying knives or guns. I laugh at this, but it's true for me. There are some sites that show all kinds of "unusual" pictures of people shopping at Walmart.
 
Though I live in the city, I see many people driving pick-up trucks. For most of those people, there is absolutely no rational justification for driving a Crew-Cab Dually-wheeled truck to commute to work. I drive a Toyota Corolla, and I think everyone else should, unless they can show that they are farmers. The highways would be safer, and pollution would be reduced.

But seriously. I live in Texas, and people in my area are generally not alarmed to see a knife being used or carried. I imagine if someone were waving one around, or even sitting and flicking a folder open & closed repeatedly while staring creepily off in the distance, it might raise some eyebrows.

Boy am I glad your not in charge! I don't want to be forced to drive a Corolla or have to have farming credentials to drive my truck or Suburban....are you sure you live in Texas with those kind of comments. The corolla wont pull the boat to the lake very well or the low boy trailer.
 
And because you say the alternative of a folder is not good enough for you, that carries more weight? What he says is basic common sense. It isn't the 1830s wild west in most urban places anymore... For the overwhelming majority, there is absolutely no rational justification for an openly carried fixed blade in an urban setting... The reason the law asks you to carry a fixed blade openly is because the law wants it to be uncomfortable for you to do so... The law makers just never figured that some are so oblivious to social standing and public perception that they would still go through with it...

Gaston

No, it isn't. Please stop talking, troll.

P.S. Way to display your abject lack of understanding of how and why laws are created. Wow.
 
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