How to flip a Hinderer

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I don't carry anything else in my pocket with a clipped folder, so when I remove the knife l only grasp the top. If the blade was open a little it still wouldn't cut me. Not that I've had the problem of any openings when carried tip down.
 
shinyedges said:
bld522,
perhaps he means they claim they designed it that way on purpose, but really they are to stubborn to admit its a design flaw they don't care to fix?

I'm just wondering here... could be wrong.
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I think your first choice is the correct one. If I saw Rob Orlando say that XM-18's were designed to deploy with inertia opening on one occasion, I saw him say it many times. You can't open a knife that way if it has a strong detent. People just didn't want to believe him.

The XM-18 is a purpose-built knife for use by Mil/EMT/LEO. It was never designed to be used by civilians and to the best of my knowledge, the factory never sold it to civilians . . . at least not directly.
 
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That's funny, but true. Still, Benchmade Axis lock knives were made to be sold to the public. XM-18s were not.
 
bld522 said:
That's funny, but true. Still, Benchmade Axis lock knives were made to be sold to the public. XM-18s were not.
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How can that be true? I saw RHK's booth at Blade and there were certainly plenty of "civilians" crowded around buying up XMs, beads, pens, and so forth.
 
Push the flipper straight through the handle (requires more strength and dexterity). No need for the awkward angle, but whatever works. For some it's always easier to complain about something than to actually find a solution, even if it takes the same amount of energy.
 
Here's a video I made a few weeks back. Very simple to flip open. Fires like a rocket.

https://youtu.be/jrqaeyNOBl8


I have owned many knives that will open with inertia. Griptilian, SNG, SMF, various ZT knives....

Now I have never owned an older RHK, but the current one I have does in fact have a strong detent. However, I can still flip it open with just using inertia if I flick it hard enough.

Personally I like the XM line if knives, they are not my favorite but I do enjoy them.
 
Gizler00 said:
I have owned many knives that will open with inertia. Griptilian, SNG, SMF, various ZT knives....
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Right. But show me a knife manufacturer besides Hinderer that openly admits their knives are designed to do that.
 
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bld522 said:
Right. But show me one knife manufacturer besides Hinderer that openly admits their knives are designed to do that.
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I NEVER said they didn't. I also never said I agreed with how they tried to say they are supposed to be like that. I was simply making a point.

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I do not believe Rob is Lying. I like RHK knives......hell I carry one everyday.
 
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So you're saying Rob Orlando consistently didn't tell the truth? Hmmm. Well unless you have some kind of credentials that can stand up against Rob's, I think I'll take his word over yours concerning the design philosophy behind Hinderer knives.
 
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bld522 said:
So you're saying Rob Orlando consistently didn't tell the truth? Hmmm. Well I hope you don't mind if I take his word over yours concerning the design philosophy behind Hinderer knives.
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What are you talking about????!! I never said he did not say that.
 
Never mind. I think we are confused with each other here. I miss interpreted your first response.

I never said that he did not say those things.

I know he openly admitted it.

Not even sure why we are doing this
 
bld522 said:
...If I saw Rob Orlando say that XM-18's were designed to deploy with inertia opening on one occasion, I saw him say it many times...
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I'm sure it is like that but I'm just curious if there are any other solid evidence that this is the preferred method of opening for this particular knife by the military and leo folks ?
 
I have no idea. All I know is that I'm prepared to take Rob Orlando at his word. And if the link I posted quoting him isn't sufficient for some people, I just don't know what to say . . .
 
Preferred? or just that it's an optional method in case of an emergency, I'd think more likely. Hinderer has already stated there's three ways to open their knives and a stiffer detent would eliminate 1 way and maybe even, 2 for some users.
 
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I have no idea. All I know is that I'm prepared to take Rob Orlando at his word.
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I wasn't talking about this. I'm sure they designed the knife to be open with this method too, for whoever wants to open it that way,
although there is nothing that will prevent a knife with heavy enough blade to be open this way, detent or most locking systems are not imperative here.
I was just curious to find out who is claiming that this method is used by the military and leo folks, you or Rob Orlando,
simply because I happen to know few of those and they would be laughing hard if I show them this... :D
 
Being active duty who ets'd in 2012, I can honestly say I never met a soldier with a hinderer... many guys carry pocket knives but I can't say that any of the ones I know prefer a knife that has a blade that will come open from running, jarring, being knocked, hitting the ground hard etc..

I personally think rob is full of crap and that they sell FAR more knives to civilians than military. That's my opinion.

This whole military depending on folders is silly anyway, a folder is SO low down on gear load out its silly. Fixed blades, rifles, pistols, axes and multi-tools are a few more commonly used items. Some units get issued a folder but not a hinderer. Meh

He'll I was issued a Gerber mp600 right before deployment, I still have the damn thing.
 
POCEH KOCEB said:
I was just curious to find out who is claiming that this method is used by the military and leo folks, you or Rob Orlando,
simply because I happen to know few of those and they would be laughing hard if I show them this... :D
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I'm not qualified to make that claim. I'd suggest you take it up with Rick Hinderer.
 
GUYS THIS KNIFE DOESN'T OPEN THE WAY I WANT IT TO

THERE ARE NO OTHER KNIVES IN THE WORLD EITHER

Just get a ZT collab if you want that blade style without the crap detent.

And, yes, it's a crap detent. I shouldn't be able to shake a knife open. That's why the detent is a thing - blade retention.

I just hope that ZT makes a full-production version of their 0392WC. I just want a 3.75-4" wharncliffe bearing framelock flipper. I don't care who makes it. Just someone. Anyone.

Also, a bowie ZT collab would be great too. 2/4 of the Hinderer blade styles are really appealing to me, but the design philosophy and attitude of the reps turns me away like nothing else. I'd buy a CRKT before I bought a Hinderer because the CRKT will actually flip well.
 
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