How to flip a Hinderer

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Not semantics. Care to add to the actual discussion? Or are you another account for bld522?
 
Skimo said:
Not semantics. Care to add to the actual discussion? Or are you another account for bld522?
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Well, you went so far as to correct a simple statement made by someone else but your info was incorrect so the favor should be returned.
 
I agree, the irony is what stands out to me as well,

They say we make this for military and Leo but sell the vast majority of their knives to Joe the grocery grabber.

Nothing wrong with selling knives to Joe the grocery grabber but saying its made for military and Leo so it has a weak detent is down right wack.


Like I said above I NEVER seen a hinderer in a PX or aafes and that is where MOST guys buy their knives.

I thing they are using the military\LEO theme as marketing tool to sell knives to civilians. Many other companies do this, but those other companies don't state their knives pop open easily as a feature for military\leo ... because neither of these two markets they claim to make their knives for, want a knife that opens unintentionally.
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If I count all my friends, family, and acquaintances over the years that are Military, LEO, Fire, EMT... they may run in the hundreds and no one owns a Hinderer and the two that even knows what a Hinderer is don't own one and wouldn't carry five hundred dollar knives to work.

Regular Joe's have to count for a significant portion of their customer base... The guys that generate the hype to put money in their pockets, yet they treat them as second class citizens as if they aren't good enough for their business. RHK sells us anodized screws and clips though to doll up your hardcore war knife no problem. That just doesn't sit well with me and while I used to think they were good looking folders a few years ago, I'm not going to force my money down their throats. The supply issue is suspect: There are dozens of even smaller operations than RHK and while its hard to get in their books, they are willing to sell their knives to anyone. There are too many other options out there and the bubble has burst on the tired XM platform. Gone are the days of a select few scoring rare versions like Whancliffes and posting it on the exchange for $1000 the next day.
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bodog said:
Well, you went so far as to correct a simple statement made by someone else but your info was incorrect so the favor should be returned.
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Still not adding to the discussion? The difference is self evident.

We agree shinyedges, last I saw was combo edge Benchmade, some leatherman, gerber, buck and average crap blades. Some PX are nicer and have a larger selection, so maybe some spyderco as well. No high end knives, plenty of beaters that won't break the junior enlisted bank.
 
And just to add, when a company uses a certain marketing ploy to sell knives and they specifically name military or LEO they should be prepared to face criticism from that group or groups they claim to cater too.

Look at cold steel, they market their knives rather different and obnoxiously and because of it the market (their customers or potential customers) criticizes them.

So, no this isn't unique to hinderer or cold steel or zero tolerance .... but several of these can't handle customer criticism and took their ball and went home.

I see nothing odd about thousands of different people conversing and having disagreements... actually it would be odd if EVERYONE agreed lol

Some folks who run these companies or moderate them don't want any criticism or feedback and only want glowing praise. Well SURPRISE real life don't work like that... especially when you make claims to make your product specifically for a group (military\leo) and there is criticism coming from them... get over it.
 
Exactly, I bought a cold steel recon with the axis lock before they switched to tri ad lock in a px. I used the hell out of it and dont even remember what happened to it lol I lost the damn thing, Or someone snagged it.
Skimo said:
Still not adding to the discussion? The difference is self evident.

We agree shinyedges, last I saw was combo edge Benchmade, some leatherman, gerber, buck and average crap blades. Some PX are nicer and have a larger selection, so maybe some spyderco as well. No high end knives, plenty of beaters that won't break the junior enlisted bank.
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Probably not, it was a hectic time in my life. Crazy thing is I now go to college for criminal justice and once I get my degree am considering going back as an officer or doing local police. I must be nuts lol
 
Eh, prior enlisted as officer, not nuts really. Most prior enlisted have been pretty cool guys, not so much nose to tail action.
 
Very true, shit rolled down hill and since they were at the bottom of the hill, they are much cooler as officers higher up the hill. Most of the time.
 
If I have a RHK that won't open with inertia is it defective? Should it be sent back for adjustment?

Mike
 
shinyedges said:
I agree, the irony is what stands out to me as well,

They say we make this for military and Leo but sell the vast majority of their knives to Joe the grocery grabber.

Nothing wrong with selling knives to Joe the grocery grabber but saying its made for military and Leo so it has a weak detent is down right wack.


Like I said above I NEVER seen a hinderer in a PX or aafes and that is where MOST guys buy their knives.

I thing they are using the military\LEO theme as marketing tool to sell knives to civilians. Many other companies do this, but those other companies don't state their knives pop open easily as a feature for military\leo ... because neither of these two markets they claim to make their knives for, want a knife that opens unintentionally.
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THIS. As others have said, "hard use tool" and "We sell jewelry to jazz up your knife" don't really go together, if we're being rational. Does a Crusader cross pocket clip/tab help the knife cut seatbelts better? No, it's something knife-enthusiasts do in order to dress up their pocket-jewelry knife. The idea that first responders or soldiers are running around with a $400 knife is amusing, to say the least. I too know plenty of all three, police, firefighters, and active duty military personnel. Not a single one carries a Hinderer. Hell, know what most of 'em own? A Gerber, SOG, or Cold Steel. My active duty friends carry Leatherman mult-tools.

Also, I asked earlier in the thread, and it was ignored, so I'll ask again: how can the claim be made that RHK only sells knives to professionals when they were at Blade, blowing knives and man-jewelry jazz-up parts out of their booth to anyone with a credit card or handful of cash?
 
A guy posts a video on how to flip open a Hinderer. Before long we have "experts" informing us that Hinderer knives are crap and that Ricks business model is build on false advertising. Why guys? Why does it matter what another person likes and buys? What will you guy gain from the sledging? If YOU don't like Hinderer knives then don't buy them. Simple.
 
Imagine an ACOG with a precisely machined HA aluminum cover in an assortment of colors... makes as much sense.
 
I think the idea was Hinderer didn't manufacture enough for anyone, unless they're in law enforcement, emergency responders, heck even my Husband could buy one being a state prosecutor. Now there's more available lately, some blades are being outsourced, Hinderers are popping up everywhere for retail. I even watched a brand new XM24 go for 445 on ebay this week. (Time the fees where paid about 380 clear) We never ordered one when I was told we could get one directly, because they had nothing available we wanted at that time and I forgot about it, until I noticed so many available at retail. I'm glad I could pick up a couple at retail and have a fairly good selection.
 
Nellem said:
A guy posts a video on how to flip open a Hinderer. Before long we have "experts" informing us that Hinderer knives are crap and that Ricks business model is build on false advertising. Why guys? Why does it matter what another person likes and buys? What will you guy gain from the sledging? If YOU don't like Hinderer knives then don't buy them. Simple.
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This isn't the RHK forum, this is General. :) If you don't like reading it, consider not reading it.

No expert will call them crap, possibly overpriced.
 
jill jackson said:
Hinderers are popping up everywhere for retail. I even watched a brand new XM24 go for 445 on ebay this week. (Time the fees where paid about 380 clear)
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:eek: What's that say? People are taking losses to offload them?
 
bodog said:
:eek: What's that say? People are taking losses to offload them?
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One XM24, was sold at that price on ebay auction. The party ended the auction on a weekday, in the morning. They messed up it happens. More available at retail = more in circulation, yes there's always more of any brand at better prices when availability increases. I'm not complaining I have a lot of knives of many brands, I like being able to check a wide variety out first hand.
 
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