How to flip a Hinderer

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Bodog, I can't stand the moniker "Hard use folder". Ha ha, Don't get me started on that marketing ploy.
 
ZT certainly pumps up the hard use deal, as much as any other company. It's the style and many companies are jumping on the wagon.
 
The detent on my XM18 is fairly soft...but I have no problem flipping it. I can also finger flick the thumbstuds (index or middle) to open it. My only negative comment about the knife is that it was only paper tearing sharp when it got here. Well, that, and the fact that the choil wastes blade length - makes me want the XM24 to get a decent sized blade...but I've got an 0560.
 
Wait, are the same guys who get their panties in a bunch every time a ZT thread comes up with less than glowing remarks really laughing and joking about Hinderers? LOL gotta love watching a hypocrite do his thing!
 
Hehe, I gotta say the "not designed for civilians" argument is pretty funny. So many knife makers design knives for mil/Leo/emt. Civilians don't have the training and know-how to operate these duty tools! It's just a knife folks. Knives with crazy strong detemts made for duty, knives w no detent made for duty. It's all doodie. As someone already said, go find your friend who does one of these for a living. They probably don't carry a knife worth $100, let alone $400+. My father works with police and none.have ever had some crazy expensive knife(I'm sure some do, but my point is its FAR from the norm) The fact is ANY knife above a certain price point is just for knife enthusiasts. Yes, we all want to rationalize our expensive purchases, but there is a point of diminishing returns.
 
I learned after sticking my fingers, with a Buck Strider collaboration, carried tip up that I should be aware of what can happen and I took personal responsibility to know my knives better and subsequently carry all of them safely.
 
kniferbro said:
Wait, are the same guys who get their panties in a bunch every time a ZT thread comes up with less than glowing remarks really laughing and joking about Hinderers? LOL gotta love watching a hypocrite do his thing!
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Yeah, don't you dare complain about anything ZT related and never mind the fact that they also closed their forum, twice over criticism of their knives. Also never mind the fact I've bought many of their folders that had vastly varying detents.I even own two Kershaw Tilts that are on completely opposite ends of the scale.
 
Stays Sharp said:
Oh man, the most whimsical looking dressed up modded folders out their ... blah blah blah ...
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Okay, so you don't like Hinderer knives ... cool. There's many other choices that will suit your specific needs better. No need to trash the preferences of those that do like Hinderer.
 
Might add too, never mind the fact that ZT goes to Hinderer for design collaborations (Strider too). So, they must highly respect both companies work.
 
I am new to the forum,but not new to forums.This thread makes me smile.Typical tug of war,we like,we don't like and the hurt begins.I see a lot of familiar names here that normally love getting along bt certain threads bring IT out of us.This is why forums are so fun.Plus I really love knives,no experience with the knife on the block so I will just sit on the side.Enjoy all !
 
DJC72 said:
Bodog, I can't stand the moniker "Hard use folder". Ha ha, Don't get me started on that marketing ploy.
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Okay, so you will be happy to be handed a slipjoint to do what a Hinderer was designed to do? If you were in a line of work that required a very sturdy folder you would be happy if your employer issued you with a slippie? Not demand something stronger?

Yes, a fixed-blade is always best for hard tasks, but carrying one is not always practical/possible.
 
Funny how persons that haven't got Rick's background in EMS knows better than him what tools EMS guys/girls need. Students of ER, Greys Anatomy, House and Chicago Fire knows better than a guy than actually did the job.
 
Hinderer could have sold a flipping only variation, with a super strong detent as an option, for the people who want it. They choose not too and about all the dissatisfied customers can do is, modify it themselves, or move on.
 
hhmoore said:
The detent on my XM18 is fairly soft...but I have no problem flipping it. I can also finger flick the thumbstuds (index or middle) to open it. My only negative comment about the knife is that it was only paper tearing sharp when it got here. Well, that, and the fact that the choil wastes blade length - makes me want the XM24 to get a decent sized blade...but I've got an 0560.
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These were my exact reactions as well. Would love to have the full wharncliffe blade length.
 
Nellem said:
Funny how persons that haven't got Rick's background in EMS knows better than him what tools EMS guys/girls need. Students of ER, Greys Anatomy, House and Chicago Fire knows better than a guy than actually did the job.
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Careful, plenty of Front Line types on this forum(professional firefighter since 1993 here) are gonna tell you they don't need a $400 folder to do their jobs. If I rolled up to a scene and one of my crew pulled out a folder to take a door(yes, even a Hinderer) instead of grabbing the Irons, I'd kick his arse. People who buy these, or any high-end, high-priced knives are knife enthusiasts, regardless of profession. You wanna know what my duty knife was for years? A Spyderco Dragonfly.
 
jill jackson said:
Hinderer could have sold a flipping only variation, with a super strong detent as an option, for the people who want it. They choose not too and about all the dissatisfied customers can do is, modify it themselves, or move on.
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I agree. It would have been interesting to see two different model variations evolve from early on. I can't imagine they have ever been unaware of the civilian popularity of their knives. Perhaps a greater emphasis on more narrowly tailored, non-flipper models would help to enhance their practical usage in LEO/EMT applications? All my opinions...
 
I've shown my high end folders to law enforcement officers, on a few occasions and only once did any of them even know about higher end knives. So, I totally agree that knife enthusiasts are the only ones buying these knives, regardless of their professions. You don't automatically upgrade your knife ownership, just because you're a public servant. Seems to be very low priority to 98% of them.
 
Prior service, used to hang with EMS/EMT/LEO. Wanna know what they carry to cut stuff? Scissors.
While I was active I carried two Benchmade Auto and axis. Care to guess how often the knives were used to turn screws, scrape shmoo, open crap from supply vs. "military use"?

I had a Hinderer, I traded it for a Sig and cash. A bloody Sig p238 with 50 rounds through it.

It was a decent knife, not exceptionally smooth, no super special steel, not a super lock.

Just like to add bld522, first responders, all first responders are civilians unless they're wearing a military uniform.
 
Skimo said:
Prior service, used to hang with EMS/EMT/LEO. Wanna know what they carry to cut stuff? Scissors.
While I was active I carried two Benchmade Auto and axis. Care to guess how often the knives were used to turn screws, scrape shmoo, open crap from supply vs. "military use"?

I had a Hinderer, I traded it for a Sig and cash. A bloody Sig p238 with 50 rounds through it.

It was a decent knife, not exceptionally smooth, no super special steel, not a super lock.

Just like to add bld522, first responders, all first responders are civilians unless they're wearing a military uniform.
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Semantics:

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/civilian
 
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