Hunters. I would like your opinions on these pictures

JEFFREY said:
OK. I can go for the hunting thing. You hunt it and eat it. Lets see, a half dozen dogs run it down, four guys with guns and knives surround said hog, you lift rear leg, while dogs have head pinned and then proceed to stab pig to death. Brave ? Naw, What is the hog to human ratio. How many hogs bring home the human ? Curious to know if you ate the little bugger.
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not brave??

I spent 3 years as a Military Policeman-and I know what Brave looks like.

Until you (yourself) do it--(be it Skydiving,Hunting Wild Boar with a Knife,Racing Motorcycles,etc)---Do not tell people this does not take a fair amount of courage.

Ask anyone who has done it-----

Real easy to chop down a tree---not so easy when the tree has teeth and moves!!!!

You seem to think it was EASY---well, my good man--YOU DO IT--then report.

Otherwise you just come accross as we say in the Military as a "wanna be"

and yes-we ate the backstraps..

I'm amazed a vet like yourself would have that opinion in the first place.That's like saying a pilot is not in the WAR compared to the grunt on the ground.
 
JackBauer24 said:
you're right. that was out of line. Honestly I've had a few cold ones at this point. I wasn't trolling and sincerely appologize.
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PUI in a thread like this isn't smart. Get off your computer and watch the "boob tube" or go post on a forum where crap like that is OK!
 
Fonly said:
then why would even post that?
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because where i'm from I've heard people say that. It's just insane to me that people think animals don't feel pain like we do. I said that because to me because one seems as stupid as the other. Can we drop it now? it was clearly misinterpreted.
 
This is obviously spiraling outa control, I sugest befor we get at cutting each others throuht's we drop this!

im out guys have fun.
 
I would like to thank the people who took the time to explain things to me. I can honestly say I see the sport. It's not for me, but I do see it as long as it's some what restrained and in some good nature. ie the hog doesn't suffer longer than need be. As for the dog fighting thing, that turned me in a bad direction. thanks, and I'll see ya'll in the morning.
 
A wild animal is going to feel pain no matter how it dies. Whether its death by hunter, larger carnivore, or natural causes
 
Hey Guys...

First off those are some F-ing Mean looking dogs...

Secondly,, although I'm not opposed to hunting pigs with knives,, Personally I find it just far to violent of an act to kill an animal with a knife..

Strange,, because I could do it with a , crossbow, rifle,, but a knife is just a little to violent for me..
I know doesn't make sense,,and there is no difference really...

Just something I wouldn't do...

ttyle

Eric
O/ST
 
Fonly said:
ok, nice one :jerkit:


First of all, i did say that they didnt feel pain, ITS PROCESSED DIFFRENTLY!!!
And saying things like that make you seem as much of an idiot and liar as you think I am.
what are you guys thinking, that animals are thinking in thier mind, ohh geeze this hurts soo bad, no they dont. Yes they have a nervous system, but they process those signals coming through in a diffrent way that the way that we feel pain.
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First of all, re-read my previous post...I never called YOU an idiot or a liar.

Who told you that pigs don't process pain like humans do?
Or did you make this "discovery" all by yourself?

Don't answer because it does not matter...the notion is total BS.
My uncle owned a pig farm down here in Carolina and I was raised around the creatures.
They do feel pain and they do process pain just like we do.
If you think otherwise then I must inform you that you're wrong, plain and simple.
And if someone taught you this, then perhaps "idiot" or "liar" is too harsh, but they certainly did not know what they were talking about.
 
troutfisher13111 said:
I see nothing wrong with it. I am sure hog hunting with dogs is like anything else. There is going to be a majority of people that are ethical and then there is going to be the few who are ignorant about it and make everyone else look bad.
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I agree with this view. Most hunters are decent people and know were to draw the line. It's easy for me to flap my lips about a hunting style that I have never experienced, with an animal (food) that I have never killed, in a location that I have never been to. Interesting thread though. :D
 
allenC said:
First of all, re-read my previous post...I never called YOU an idiot or a liar.

Who told you that pigs don't process pain like humans do?
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It's call "gated theory of pain" and is taught in all human or animal physiology. Pain cross over your spinal cord before entering your brain to be processed and can be blocked by both human and animals. Please don't think that pain is the be all and end all to the hunting arguments. I'm sure most of you here has cut yourselves with a knife and bleeding all over the place without knowing it. Same can be said for animals.
 
Seems the only reference to survival in this thread is enduring the inane.:thumbdn:
 
I'm sure most of you here has cut yourselves with a knife and bleeding all over the place without knowing it. Same can be said for animals.
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But who here has been chased, attacked, and savagely mauled by four dogs without knowing it??? :barf:

Look at the pictures again...do you honestly believe that the pig did not die in agony???

If you want to call it "pest control", fine!
If you want to call it "killing a pig with dogs", fine!
But don't think for one second that this "hunting" or a "sport"! :thumbdn:

It's this kind of thing that gives real hunters a bad name.
 
Wow!!! This thread got awesome!!!

My opinion is that there is an innate drive in humans to revert and return to that stage in our existance where we chased down mammoths and speared them. Our dogs are the same. Show my ridgebacks something and they want to kill it. Frankly, sometimes I feel the same way. Sorry if that makes me a phychotic killer. Frankly I carry a firearm every day in the line of duty. Haven't been on any physchotic killer rampages yet, but you never know :)

This type of hunting may serve an underlying purpose (To remove vermin), but honestly those dogs and the guy doing the stickin are just plain having fun. Is that ethical? To each their own. Frankly I don't think you can find a hunter that doesn't do it for fun in this day and age. Can you tell me that aligning your sights, controlling your breathing, focusing on your front sight post while your shot breaks after 2 days in the bush isn't? Give me a break. It's incredible. I do believe in eating what you kill though. Killing without regard is just wasteful, not to mention disrespectful. But, then again I have done that before too, stupid cockroaches......
 
allenC said:
But who here has been chased, attacked, and savagely mauled by four dogs without knowing it??? :barf:

Look at the pictures again...do you honestly believe that the pig did not die in agony???

If you want to call it "pest control", fine!
If you want to call it "killing a pig with dogs", fine!
But don't think for one second that this "hunting" or a "sport"! :thumbdn:

It's this kind of thing that gives real hunters a bad name.
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Interesting. Would you please define Hunting and Sport for me please?
 
Although I don't enjoy hunting and killing the animal, I'm sure others love it. I actually feel much happier if people would hunt their own food, I have seen some pretty terrible things happen to animals that are bred for food. Just wondering if anyone has seen the video of how KFC treat the chicken before they are cooked?
 
Looks like a pig hunt in Oz to me. They hunt with knives there, I see nothing wrong with it. i believe that is the way they have to be hunted for market. You can't shoot them because ALL the vital organs need to be undamaged for inspection. Ask Ian he knows alot about this, hell those are probably his pics.
 
jh205 said:
When I was a kid, me and my friends used to collect red and black ants in a can as if it were a Roman coliseum, tossing in an occasional grasshopper or black widow for more interesting action. Stakes were smaller, but the bloodlust was the same.
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You do realise that displays of cruelty to animals in childhood is a strong predictor for the emergence of Antisocial Personality Disorder (ie. being a psychopath) in adulthood?

To be honest I think you should talk to a psychologist about your inability to feel empathy for living creatures, before that lack of empathy extends to human animals.
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When I was a kid, I tormented ants endlessly. We had a lot of cats, and I went to great lengths to help the kittens survive, far beyond the shreds of empathy my parents seemed to have. Tormenting insects doesn't necessarily equate with tormenting things with backbones. The former don't have a demonstrated ability to feel pain; the latter do.

But yes, I've read some literature about animal cruelty and APD, and I have no beef with it, though I don't know how well supported it is.
 
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