Allen have you seen an actual pig hunt performed by responsible hunters? The dogs don't rip the pig up. They are trained to get a hold of one area out of the way of danger and just hang on. If you watch the dogs tails they are wagging constantly. Also it is a much quicker to kill them than with a bow. This is do to the fact that accuracy is more easily achieved with a knife 2 feet away than with a bow 20 yards away.
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I have lived in a place that you may call jungle. The natives there had no guns just bows and machetes. Mainly farmers with very little protein. Having a pig to roast is a big deal for them.
The tribal groups have hunters. Normally one or two guys with machetes as bows are not much good in the thick stuff. They seemed to have only one or two dogs or three dogs...yellow Asian cur if you know what I mean.... the dogs find and chase the pig and the hunters chase after..... pig somehow gets cornered or run down and the guys move in with the machetes.
Not sport as we would consider it. I didn't think it was cruel, just what was required to keep the tribe with some protein.
Interesting note..... I went to a pig roast one time as an honored guest and they served me up a great handful of the pig fat.... that was the delicacy and the meat itself went to the woemn and kids. Fat to the men.
Perspective and interpretation varies depending upon circumstances.
Slim
The tribal groups have hunters. Normally one or two guys with machetes as bows are not much good in the thick stuff. They seemed to have only one or two dogs or three dogs...yellow Asian cur if you know what I mean.... the dogs find and chase the pig and the hunters chase after..... pig somehow gets cornered or run down and the guys move in with the machetes.
Not sport as we would consider it. I didn't think it was cruel, just what was required to keep the tribe with some protein.
Interesting note..... I went to a pig roast one time as an honored guest and they served me up a great handful of the pig fat.... that was the delicacy and the meat itself went to the woemn and kids. Fat to the men.
Perspective and interpretation varies depending upon circumstances.
Slim
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thank goodness. I felt terrible that it was misunderstood.
anyway Fire/rescue crew signing in.
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that sounds very reasonable.
And hunting them with a bow is just fine right?
I have a little nugget of information for you. When you shoot a pig with a bow, you are relying on the pig moving aroung (running, struggling, ECT.). The with every movement, the broadhead will start to shread the insides of the pig. The pig finally dies when the heart and lungs are cut to pieces by the blades of the broadhead. When you shoot a hog with a bow, it does not die quickly, it takes a while, especially if it does not move as much. If you know anything about bow hunting, the hunter does not usually find the kill anywhere near where he shot it. The only exception to this, is when the arrow goes completely through the pig. In this case, it opens a small wound channel and allows the pig to bleed to death.
When you kill a pig with a knife, it opens a large wound channel. A large wound channel from a knife will kill the pig much faster than than a broadhead slowly shredding its insides or a small wound channel will.
If you ask me, killing a pig with a knife is much more humane than killing it with a broadhead.
Exactly!
Ya'see, if we don't use our dogs to hunt down them pigs, we might actually fail to kill that many pigs, and so, fail to impress our friends.
You can imagine the embarassment of actually coming up empty handed on a pig hunt.
Best not leave anything to chance.
Dog hunting pigs on fenced property is definitely the only way to go in my opinion!
That way you're practically guaranteed a trophy pig. :thumbup:
That's an excellent point!
The way I see it, those lions are true SPORTSMEN too, just like us guys who use dogs to do the work for us! :thumbup:
Hey, of course it's a SPORT!
That's the same way we do it in Texas, right?
Heck, guys will even pay to stab a pig (once the pig has been chased and mauled by about four dogs first. That makes it more SPORTING).
And of course it's not cruel...
We all know that stupid pigs don't process pain like other animals.
That's just silly.
Only after the dogs have chased it for a about three hours, and then pinned it against the fence.
After all, we want to give the pig a sporting chance, right?
NO, no, no...you're not doing it right.
First you have to let four big stout dogs tire the pig and pin the pig down so you can walk up and shoot it properly.
You don't really expect any serious sportsman or hunter to actually stalk a pig and shoot it without his dogs first mauling the pig, do you???
That's just crazy!
You seem to me missing the point (no pun intended)...
If you wanted to kill the pig quickly you would just shoot it from a distance.
But it's much more fun to sic the dogs on the pig and let them chase it for a while until they can get their teeth on the pig and maul him.
Only after the dogs have did all the work do you then stab the pig.
You would not want the fun to end too soon would ya?!?
Heck, you've got to give your customers their money's worth, right?
First you have to let your dogs attack the onion and rip it up by its roots (use at least three dogs...those onions can be dangerous).
Then you should reward you dogs by letting them chew on the onions for a while.
Only then should you put down your beer and get out of the truck long enough to stab the onion.
Now THAT'S an onion hunt!!!:thumbup:
NO WAY!!!
You can't be serious!
You mean to tell me that a person would endanger the very life of their dog, the dog that they love like one of their own children, just for SPORT?!?!?
I don't believe this can be possible!
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what exactly is the point of all your sarcasm? who are you to preach to anyone else?
if someone wants to hunt with a knife, why do you care?
most animals dont die right away when shot, many run for some time. unless shot in the head (a practice most responsible hunters dont try), or a spine shot, which is probably luck.
To whom are you referring:
The pigs, the dogs, or the "hunters"?
I don't care if folks choose to hunt with a knife.
I'm against using the dogs.
If you want to call yourself a "HUNTER" or a "SPORTSMAN", then stop relying upon the dogs to do your work for you.
Stalk the pig yourself and kill it with your knife!
At least then you can honestly say YOU hunted and killed the pig.
Can you imagine a fighting competition where four other guys held down your opponent while you delivered the knockout punch?
Could you honestly call yourself a fighter?
Or can you imagine someone else baiting your hook, casting your line, getting the bite, setting the hook in the fish, and then handing you the rod so you could reel the fish in?
Could you honestly call yourself a fisherman?
If someone tied a deer to a tree, aligned your sights for the perfect shot, and then told you to pull the trigger, would you call yourself a deerhunter?
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Seems like every hunting thread devolves into an online catfight.
Hunting has become a taboo topic like religion and politics.
And just like the above mentioned topics, noone is going to change anyones mind.
AllenC, your risking carpal tunnel throwing sarcasm at people who will never see things your way, right or wrong.
Hunting has become a taboo topic like religion and politics.
And just like the above mentioned topics, noone is going to change anyones mind.
AllenC, your risking carpal tunnel throwing sarcasm at people who will never see things your way, right or wrong.
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many bird hunters use game dogs, is this different to you? how about sitting on a watering hole and waiting for a deer or pig to come for water, then shooting it? is that ok?
or does a true hunter only stalk and chase the animal? didnt you mention earlier that shooting a pig from a distance is ok? i dont understand what stance you are taking.
poor analogy.
this is common. many people learn to fish this way. and by your rationale, the only true fisherman would dive in and use a spear. using bait and a pole from a boat isnt cheating?
you may disagree with the way they hunt, but that doesnt mean it is unethical or immoral.
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lest we forget, nearly all hunting is for sport, at least for our purposes. whether or not we eat what we kill is incidental. how many of us NEED to hunt to survive?
since we all have computers and the internet, i would guess very few. im sure some hunt on a regular basis to supplement their food purchases, but for actual survival?
many of us draw the ethical line between sport and trophy hunting, but they are not that different.
since we all have computers and the internet, i would guess very few. im sure some hunt on a regular basis to supplement their food purchases, but for actual survival?
many of us draw the ethical line between sport and trophy hunting, but they are not that different.