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I HATE KARAMBITS BUT.... CRKT PROVOKE CASWELL DESIGN NEW VIDEO PG 10

Discussion in 'General Knife Discussion' started by JParanee, Jan 11, 2019.

  1. Glock19C_Gunner

    Glock19C_Gunner

    131
    Jan 24, 2009
    As far as I know from what I've seen Joe Caswell say, this is an almost direct copy of the mid-tech that Millit Knives is making for him, so I don't per say see them doing anything as far as trimming it down.

    To add insight as to what another poster said regarding price - Joe said the reason the price is high, is due to the level of quality he wanted for it and the materials used for the production version.

    Based on 3 days with it and in terms of my initial experience, the quality is indeed there, and I do believe this to be worth the $200.

    Have not put it down except for today to go to work, and thus far nothing has loosened nor has any play or anything developed. Time will tell, but I don't feel cheated one bit.
     
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  2. Lapedog

    Lapedog Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 7, 2016
    Thank you very much. I will almost certainly get one when they come out with other blade shapes. Hopefully they’ll grind the blade abit thinner too.
     
  3. jason41987

    jason41987

    160
    May 9, 2012
    CRKT has never had an offering that has really piqued my interest. And they still don't. Much like Cold Steel I get the impression they'd rather pander to the tacticool crowd than to focus on making quality knives.
     
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  4. W. Anderson

    W. Anderson Basic Member Basic Member

    Jun 22, 2016
    Please elaborate...
     
  5. Glock19C_Gunner

    Glock19C_Gunner

    131
    Jan 24, 2009
    One of the things which makes our hobby great - there's literally no shortage of companies and designers who do make things we like.
     
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  6. unwisefool

    unwisefool Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 22, 2007
    Hmm, I've never had the impression that CRKT was tacticool, more that they just licensed interesting designs by knifemakers and then made very budget knives with those designs.
     
  7. madcap_magician

    madcap_magician Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Feb 27, 2005
    Interestingly GPK has the CRKT in stock at $169.99, while BHQ and KnifeCenter are still listing preorders at $199.99. If it's really good, then $170 is getting more reasonable, I think.
     
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  8. unwisefool

    unwisefool Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 22, 2007
    Yep, I got that email also. Veeeeery tempting.
     
  9. madcap_magician

    madcap_magician Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Feb 27, 2005
    Not for me, I 'preordered' three morphing karambits back in April of last year at $450 each!

    ... but at least veeery tempting, if not veeeeery tempting.
     
  10. unwisefool

    unwisefool Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 22, 2007
    I really wanted to get one, but the wife looked at me like that was a bad idea so there went that.
     
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  11. Twindog

    Twindog Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 6, 2004
    Thanks to those photos that Glock19 posted. I have to say that I don't get it -- like at all.

    It's a big, thick, complicated brick of a knife with a point and a small, thick blade that could do damage in hand-to-hand fighting, but otherwise is poorly designed for cutting anything, such as pruning, which was the original intent.

    Really, it looks to me like a toy, like those spinners that bored people like mess with.

    But for self defense, I'd rather use my normal EDC, which I'm comfortable with and could open fast and reliably in time of stress and which would give me much more reach. If I wanted a dedicated self-defense blade, I'd go with the Spyderco Civilian, which seems to me to be infinitely better than this clever little karambit.

    However, having never been in a knife fight, perhaps I'm missing something.
     
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  12. madcap_magician

    madcap_magician Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Feb 27, 2005
    I'm not sure if you're missing something, or if this just isn't the knife for you. The big selling point is that it can be opened from a firm grip without rearranging your hand to clear the blade rotation into the open position, which makes it completely unique among folding knives that aren't OTF autos, and that it's extremely safe as a folding knife, as even a total lock failure will not cause the blade to close on your hand.
     
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  13. Twindog

    Twindog Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 6, 2004
    Yes, I get that it's a really clever design and opens in a unique way. But once open, I don't see any added value in function over any other knife; and it seems to fall short in function for every other knife I know.

    I've tried for a while to find a karambit that added something in the way of function. Still not seeing it.

    But I haven't actually handled or used one.
     
  14. sgt1372

    sgt1372 Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 16, 2018
    As I've already mentioned previously, the Provoke is available for pre-order NOW for $157.19. Just Google CRKT Provoke $157.19 and the link will jump out at you.
     
  15. JParanee

    JParanee Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 23, 2006
    Thank you to the person that posted pics

    It looks well made etc

    I’m anxious to get one

    Twindog

    I think this will appeal to someone looking for the compact size of a folding Karambit with out the problems a lot of folding knives suffer which is accidental closure
     
  16. Kaizen1

    Kaizen1 Gold Member Gold Member

    Jan 4, 2006
    But that shouldn't much of a surprise since the design is based on a specific use case, and it's not just "self defense", but a specific type of self defense. It's a specialization within a specialization
     
  17. madcap_magician

    madcap_magician Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Feb 27, 2005
    ... if I wanted to buy one from that seller, instead of from the dealers from whom I've bought knives for a decade and whose businesses I prefer to frequent, I'm sure I could save $12.80.
     
  18. sgt1372

    sgt1372 Platinum Member Platinum Member

    Oct 16, 2018
    Your choice.

    I was not posting this info for you in particular but for the community in general. I buy from all sources, including the one mentioned, based primarily on price and the quality of the service (if any) provided.
     
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  19. Lapedog

    Lapedog Gold Member Gold Member

    Dec 7, 2016
    Looks like you just lost $12.80 lol
     
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  20. Glock19C_Gunner

    Glock19C_Gunner

    131
    Jan 24, 2009
    Karambits are primarily designed to be a weapon, and not an EDC tool.

    A very specialized tool, that someone with a modest amount of training, can utilize a lot more effectively than someone could use something like a Sebenza or Strider for defensive purposes.

    Its used in Silat and Kali martial arts.

    The Karambit isn't just meant to cut - you can trap, cut, and flail with it. It's also an impact weapon.

    This definitely isn't the knife for you, and that's perfectly ok.

    If curious, look up some videos and articles on Doug Marcaida - he shows just how effective the karambit can be. The man is literally a master of his art.

    I carry my Karambit to augment my firearm when on duty. Which translates to me carrying one when I'm off-duty as well.

    My karambit doesn't get used for EDC tasks. My Spyderco Para 3 assumes that role.
     

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