Hello, I've bought from you before and been very pleased.
However, I'm confused about the description for this item. It states "Mini Mojito/Mojo". the description states 13C26 Sandvik steel, but this is not how the Mini Mojos came. If it's a Mojo, I'm not interested. If it is a Mojito with 13C26 Sandvik as per your description, I'll keep my bid in place.
If you can clear this up for me I'd greatly appreciate it.
Thanks,
Brad
From: Dave Lewis
To:
cirta@cox.net
Sent: Monday, December 03, 2007 7:51 PM
Subject: [!! SPAM] Re: You've received a question about your eBay item, $ Kershaw Mini Mojito/Mojo knife G-10 Stud-Lock KS1800
Both descriptions are listed for the same knife in the Kershaw catalog. It's all the same knife. What matters is the model numbr. This is a Kershaw 1800.
From: Bradley Sneed
Sent: Dec 5, 2007 9:30 AM
To: Dave Lewis
Subject: Re: [!! SPAM] Re: You've received a question about your eBay item, $ Kershaw Mini Mojito/Mojo knife G-10 Stud-Lock KS1800

Dave,
Thanks for your reply. In stating that "It's all the same knife" you are incorrect. I have been collecting Kershaw knives for quite some time now.
By definition of your description, having 13C26 steel means that it is a Mini Mojito, not a Mini Mojo. The Mojo came with 440A blade steel, while the Mini Mojito has 13C26 steel in the blade. The change over date was around mid 2007. There is a date stamp on the safety (integral with the flipper on the top of the handle). If this date stamp is AUG 07 or later it is a Mini Mojito, and therefore has the 13C26 blade. Anything prior to that date is a Mini Mojo, and has 440A blade steel.
Per your description, this is a Mini Mojito as your ad claims 13C26 Sandvik blade steel. When it arrives, I will check the date stamp, and if in fact it is 13C26, all is well. However, I do not want another 440A Mini Mojo, as I already have two. If you would like to check any remaining stock you may have for the proper date stamp for the 13C26 blade, I would appreciate it. If the knife arrives with a date stamp prior to August 2007, I will request a full refund, including shipping to me and enough to recover shipping back to you.
Please let me know how you wish to proceeded.
Thanks,
From: Dave Lewis
To: Bradley Sneed
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 11:13 AM
Subject: Re: [!! SPAM] Re: You've received a question about your eBay item, $ Kershaw Mini Mojito/Mojo knife G-10 Stud-Lock KS1800
We have tens of thousands of knives here, and we simply don't have the time to open individual boxes. All that matters is the stock number. If we sold a Kershaw 1800 (we did), and the box reads 1800 (it did), than that's all that matters. We get our specs directly from the manufacturer's catalogs and our factory reps. The information we used in this listing was provided to us in January, and we have since sold exactly 22 of this model, so if Kershaw is still shipping old versions that would be an issue to take up with Kershaw, not with us. Again, with the volume we ship (eBay is not our only sales venue), the notion of opening every box for inspection is preposterous, but thanks for telling us how to operate our business that has been running successfully for more than twice as long as eBay has existed.
All sales are final, as stated.
From: Bradley Sneed
Your description as Sandvik 13C26 is incorrect...I'm sure eBay will like to know this, as will all other prospective customers you might have...................read what you want.
Oh, and speaking with Kershaw, which I do a lot, they haven't shipped a Mojo since June of this year.
All sales are final, as are all feedbacks left.
From: Dave Lewis
To: Bradley Sneed
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [!! SPAM] Re: You've received a question about your eBay item, $ Kershaw Mini Mojito/Mojo knife G-10 Stud-Lock KS1800
Suit yourself. The feedback door swings both ways.
From: Bradley Sneed
Sent: Dec 5, 2007 12:04 PM
To: Dave Lewis
Subject: Re: [!! SPAM] Re: You've received a question about your eBay item, $ Kershaw Mini Mojito/Mojo knife G-10 Stud-Lock KS1800

Yeah, but I didn't intentionally mislead a buyer...
From: Dave Lewis
To: Bradley Sneed
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 12:52 PM
Subject: Re: [!! SPAM] Re: You've received a question about your eBay item, $ Kershaw Mini Mojito/Mojo knife G-10 Stud-Lock KS1800
Nor did we, and we object to you being such a jerk about it. Again, the information PROVIDED BY KERSHAW is what we used. You're making some pretty stupid accusations there without having all the facts, or by conveniently ignoring what we've told you.
Looks, it's real simple: We advertised an item exactly as it is described by the folks who made it. This is easily supported by the Kershaw catalog. We shipped the EXACT model number we advertised. Other than that, you're just looking for a fight, and we simply don't have time to waste these days.
Good luck, and please don't bother wasting our time anymore or shopping with us.
Our office manager (who has even less tolerance for assholes than I do) is blocking you from our store.
From: Bradley Sneed
Sent: Dec 13, 2007 12:19 PM
To: Dave Lewis
Subject: Re: [!! SPAM] Re: You've received a question about your eBay item, $ Kershaw Mini Mojito/Mojo knife G-10 Stud-Lock KS1800

OK jerk, If you sold 22 of these same knives this year, then why did my knife have a May 2005 date stamp on it? You claimed you went by the Kershaw catalogue, but there was NO Mini Mojito with 13C26 Sandvic steel in May of 2005. Hell, the Mojo wasn't released until April 2005. So IF you did in fact sell 22 of these " 13C26 Sandvik Mojitos" this year, then you've ripped off an additional 22 people with your fraudulent description.
By the way, I'm placing a Corvette on eBay...please bid on it. You'll get a '74 Vega instead...because a Chevy's a Chevy, right?
And don't worry about me coming back...or an additional 500 or so knife collectors/buyers that now know what a rip off you really are.
You are all a bunch of dumbass idiots...
From: Dave Lewis
To: Bradley Sneed
As I said, dipshit, we don't open the boxes, so if that's what Kershaw is shipping to us, then that's what Kershaw is shipping to us. It's really that simple.
Does your dad know you're using his computer? You DO know who your dad is, right? Or didn't your mother turn around and get a good look at him?
-----Original Message-----
From: Bradley Sneed
Sent: Dec 13, 2007 3:25 PM
To: Dave Lewis
Subject: Re: [!! SPAM] Re: You've received a question about your eBay item, $ Kershaw Mini Mojito/Mojo knife G-10 Stud-Lock KS1800

Well, as I said you're a bunch of asshat idiots...BTW, I'm going to call my friend at Kershaw, and find out exactly what they've shipped to you.
And from someone that runs a successful business I think you could do better with your insults...you sound like the 13 year old e-thug...
Any why won't you pussy boys put your phone number on your invoice? I guess with all your fuck-ups, and time spent running across the state to your warehouse (yeah, right), you' wouldn't have time to answer them. Either that or you're hiking in the white mountains...I didn't know they had white mountains in Louisiana...
Oh well, I'm done with you...your eBay page and the current KS1800 rip-off offering you have advertised is on it's way to Virginia's Attorney General (who happens to be a relative of mine), the U S District Attorney (who is a friend of mine) and the U S Postmaster General (whom I don't know, but have a friend that's a local postmaster) for the start of an Interstate Fraud Investigation. You see, by shipping thru the U S Mail, you've also committed Mail Fraud. Your ass is toast. And your pockets aren't nearly as deep as mine.
And what the hell is the NCCA? You're a life member? Is it the National Christian Counselors Association, the National Commission for Certifying Agencies, or the National Child Care Association
Just for kicks, read this, since your panties are already bunched:
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=516122
See ya in court, asshat!
Hi Brad
Sorry to hear of your unfortunate dealings with your EBay auction. EBay certainly has become a gamble over the years.
With regards to Classic Cutlery, this is not a business that we have currently set up direct here at Kershaw Knives. I am not familiar with who they are, or their business practices. No doubt they buy through a wholesale distributor for product.
The 1800 Mini Mojito is current production, and our inventory is long past May 2005. There can be old new stock out on the market, but it would be knives that we have shipped long ago. It is regrettable that there are dealers out misrepresenting the steel used with certain models, but the changeover we have had from 440A to 13C26 has been tough to deal with. Unless a dealer is following closely with specs of a certain manufacturer it could be that they simply are unaware of changes that take place.
Now I havent seen your correspondence to each other prior to what you quoted me, but that is no way to talk to anyone, let alone a customer.
It sounds like you are already aware, but we did change steel on the 1800 from 440A to 13C26 in July of 2007. The born on date will be the indicator of what material the blade steel is made from. The May 2005 version that you received is in fact 440A blade steel.
Well I hope all this is helpful, and good luck with this auction.
Happy Holidays.
Thomas Welk
National Sales Manager - Kai USA
Kershaw Knives, Shun, Zero Tolerance
18600 SW Teton Ave
Tualatin OR 97062
503-682-1966
503-682-7168 Fax
