If you want to get pissed off

R.A.T. said:
Running Man was a pretty good movie. That was from a Stephen King book, I believe.
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Yes it was, when he was writing as Richard Bachman. Ok, well, I am going to get less popular, but.... Having used a number of the drug specifically mentioned, I wouldn't want to be working with and/or driving on the same road as some that was using them.... and the war on drugs isnt going anywhere because so many America's are more then happy to buy them for recreational use. But if you want the laws changed, you get to voice your opinion, talk to your representives, etc to effect change. Not so elsewhere in the world. Illegal's comming into this country is always going to happen until it is so unattractive to get caught, that the risk isnt worth it. But our prisons are nicer then where half of them grew up, so....

This video pissed me off a great deal, but I am already pissed about the couple in FL, who are in-laws of a friend of mine.

Hogan Knows best was a waste of electrons, as are almost all reality TV series. Thou I really enjoyed Expedition Africa, Survivorman, and a bunch of others. Maybe we can talk Discovery into Expedition Rat Pack Peru?!?

Anyways, Jeff thanks for posting that link to the video. I had no idea, and it is hard to voice an opinion, effect change if you have no idea a problem exsists.
 
stricknine said:
jeff is right on his points, think about legalizing marijuana, takes all the politics out of it and then tax it, recession done and national debt done, takes away all the issues with it.
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Well, in my opinion, legalizing it IS politicizing it. Just like all of these generous lawmakers that pass laws to give us the right to carry weapons. They are giving us something that is already ours. Lawmakers need to keep their noses out of our day to day activities as much as possible.

i have always said that i would rather my sons drive under the influence of marijuana than alcohol.
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I don't know - an impaired driver is an impaired driver - one doesn't do less damage than the other in a head-on collision.
 
Yall are assuming I made a blanket statement to legalize drugs. I did not. Go back and read what I said before assuming ;)
 
The War on Drugs is never going to be won because there is so much money involved in keeping them illegal and having plenty of people to prosecute and that is why you see the government wasting hundreds of thousands of dollars, perhaps millions, going after a drug icon like Tommy Chong but they will put Border Patrol Agents in prison for shooting a drug smuggler in the ass.

Then the federal government gives the drug smuggler immunity and he goes back to smuggling more of these "dangerous drugs" into the country...is there something wrong with this picture?

I say legalize all of that. It's a plant, you don't have to have a bunch of people tromping around in a vat of goo to make a bag of pot, hash or mushrooms. There is no "processing" with these things and it's sort of stupid to "ban" them...if people found out there was a certain type of LAWN grass or some other common, every day plant that could simply be picked, dried and smoked, would they defoliate entire neighborhoods then? It's stupid and it's a waste of valuable resources.

I don't know that they would be able to make up for the revenue loss by taxing various drugs because I don't think there would be an incredible increase in the amount of people using them. Might be a bit of a spike but overall I think their pretty easy in the reigns of the monster they have created that has imprisoned so many people for just having leaves from a plant. Or some pollen, whatever.

One has to wonder if Prohibition would have never happened and instead would have been passed in the 1970s...I think we would still have it around today, I think the Repeal of Prohibition was a bright and shining moment before we lost our collective minds, as a society.
 
Don Rearic said:
I don't know that they would be able to make up for the revenue loss by taxing various drugs because I don't think there would be an incredible increase in the amount of people using them.
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I agree with that. if they made marijuana legal tomorrow, I still wouldn't fool with it. Tried it when I was younger, inhaled the hell out of it (unlike Bill Clinton), and found out real quick I didn't like it.
 
I think a lot of people reach the same conclusion about drinking heavily. They go through the whole party till you puke thing and they either grow up and use in moderation or don't use at all or they become alcoholics. Same with everything else.

You used to smoke, that is some of the most addictive shit you can imagine. You just have to be stubborn! If people would just release their inner asshole on the cigarettes, they could win. :D

I really don't see a problem with allowing people to have pot plants in their house and using them recreationally if they want to. I've been around a lot of potheads growing up and while some of them were a total waste of space, I have to say, it was safer than hanging around people who drink heavily. I guarantee anyone that there is more carnage on the highways and more violence in the streets when it comes to alcohol compared to pot.

The harder drugs are a different thing altogether for various reasons, some obvious and some less obvious.
 
Smoking is by far the worse addiction in the world, IMO. With that said, the last thing we need is someone telling people they can't smoke. I'm a reformed smoker but it pisses me off to go somewhere that does not allow smoking, airplanes for example, but yet they allow screaming little bastard kids to run wild, and that is a whole lot worse on me stress-wise than smoking ever was.
 
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I have another hypothesis as to why drugs will not be legalized. Just 'magine if they were... all of them... legal!. People could buy street drugs for a fraction of what they pay for prescription drugs and, in many cases, self treat their pain/problem. So, legalized drugs means that the greedy effin pharmaceutical companies would no longer be able to hold us hostage. Who has the biggest budget for D.C. lobbyists... pharmaceutical companies or you and me? We lose.

[put tinfoil hat back on shelf]
 
No need for a tinfoil hat on that one, brother. I think it's the truth!
 
Grump said:
[put on tinfoil hat]

I have another hypothesis as to why drugs will not be legalized. Just 'magine if they were... all of them... legal!. People could buy street drugs for a fraction of what they pay for prescription drugs and, in many cases, self treat their pain/problem. So, legalized drugs means that the greedy effin pharmaceutical companies would no longer be able to hold us hostage. Who has the biggest budget for D.C. lobbyists... pharmaceutical companies or you and me? We lose.

[put tinfoil hat back on shelf]
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Yes, it is pretty sad that greed has risen to such a high position of power within our unitedstates goverment and world economy. What is worse is that we allowed it, allow it and continue to provide the apathy needed for it to thrive.
 
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It's not so much greed as it is just straight out lying, forgery, threats, bribery and extortion to protect a few and to preserve power. It's not so much the money that's the issue, it is power. Given, money does create power but there is more to this than simple money and greed. Both sides of this equation are just as guilty. The companies who do it and the politicians that protect them. All of this is done under the guise of free enterprise and Capitalism and this is as far from true Capitalism as you can get, IMO.
 
R.A.T. said:
... and this is as far from true Capitalism as you can get, IMO.
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Amen! True capitalism doesn't involve a meddling, crooked government. Does it involve crooks? You bet! Constant government intervention? Hell no!
 
its funny but while i was on my LITTLE 3day 2night stint, I noticed that the desire to procure more than i needed really just wasnt there. I didnt want anything but the next thing i needed, it seems as though going a bit backward in progress is a few steps foreward in regards to these moral questions. Maybe people need to go hungry for a bit need to stop wanting the newest mercedes benz black series:D omg beautiful. and reconnect with what is important.


ok, i let Dr Phil pipe in on that one.:D
 
Here's something federal LEO buddy sent me this morning. He's reading a book and sent me this passage from it:

From a book I’m reading:

“The habituation of workers to the assembly line was thus perhaps made easier by another innovation of the early twentieth century: consumer debt. As Jackson Lears has argued, through the installment plan previously unthinkable acquisitions became thinkable, and more than thinkable: it became normal to carry debt. The display of a new car bought on installment became a sign that one was trustworthy. In a wholesale transformation of the old Puritan moralism, expressed by Benjamin Franklin (admittedly no Puritan) with the motto “Be frugal and free,” the early twentieth century saw the moral legitimation of spending. One symptom Lears points to is a 1907 book with the immodest title The New Basis of Civilization by Simon Nelson Patten, in which the moral valence of debt and spending is reversed, and the multiplication of wants becomes not a sign of dangerous corruption but part of the civilizing process. That is, part of the disciplinary process. As Lears writes, “Indebtedness could discipline workers, keeping them at routinized jobs in factories and offices, graying but in harness, meeting payments regularly.”
 
"graying but in harness" What a great damn line. And it's the truth!
 
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