Bad inaccurate description of condition by the seller

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topfuel6 said:
I don’t understand why someone with TWO freaking transaction feedbacks feels comfortable giving sage advice on how to conduct transactions.
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When you see dozens of people get shocked over and over by grabbing an electrical fence, it doesn't take a lot of "experience" to know not to grab the damn fence. As for the rest of the back-and-forth between him and the other guy, it's just W&C bullshit spilling over to forums where it doesn't belong.
 
Planterz said:
When you see dozens of people get shocked over and over by grabbing an electrical fence, it doesn't take a lot of "experience" to know not to grab the damn fence. As for the rest of the back-and-forth between him and the other guy, it's just W&C bullshit spilling over to forums where it doesn't belong.
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Dozens of people have been ripped off by people with over 50 positive transaction reviews? This isn’t the classic case of the knife bandit on the run. This is a guy with a solid transaction history just saying “f**k it”. Saying “I told you so” doesn’t neatly fit here. I can’t recall anyone with that many positive reviews (and no negatives) going off the rails.
 
King of the Cheese said:
Dozens of people have been ripped off by people with over 50 positive transaction reviews? This isn’t the classic case of the knife bandit on the run. This is a guy with a solid transaction history just saying “f**k it”. Saying “I told you so” doesn’t neatly fit here. I can’t recall anyone with that many positive reviews (and no negatives) going off the rails.
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I don’t recall a thread like this going this far without revealing the true identity of the bad player.

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King of the Cheese said:
Dozens of people have been ripped off by people with over 50 positive transaction reviews? This isn’t the classic case of the knife bandit on the run. This is a guy with a solid transaction history just saying “f**k it”. Saying “I told you so” doesn’t neatly fit here. I can’t recall anyone with that many positive reviews (and no negatives) going off the rails.
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And the F&F = no recourse rule of law changes when the seller reaches a certain number of positive transactions? Or do you only make that argument when it contradicts someone you have beef with in W&C? I'm sure if one of the supermods made the point, you wouldn't have said a thing, but since it was Danke42, you couldn't resist arguing against a perfectly valid point, simply because you're a compulsive contrarian. This isn't the first time you've done this; more like the severalth.

If he'd paid G&S, with the knife being in the seller's possession, he could file a claim and get his money refunded. He paid F&F, and now he can't. So the seller will (maybe) send the knife back instead, violating the "a deal isn't done until both parties are satisfied" rule. The seller either gets negative feedback or shamed into doing the right thing.
 
GlfSupr said:
My side of the story is that I received the message at work so I responded before I saw the pictures and fully read the description. When I finally had the chance to look at it it was not the condition the knife was in when I shipped it so I immediately contacted the buyer saying I would not be taking it back. In his defense I was already having a shitty day and it could have been worded more nicely with more description as to why I made that decision but I didn’t. And I didn’t feel like doing this because it’s his word against mine.
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Oh no you don’t. You said “it is what it is” after making the excuse it’s a 10 year old knife. You knew what you were doing. Buyers don’t go out and drag their knives across concrete the day they get them just to spite sellers.
 
Planterz said:
And the F&F = no recourse rule of law changes when the seller reaches a certain number of positive transactions? Or do you only make that argument when it contradicts someone you have beef with in W&C? I'm sure if one of the supermods made the point, you wouldn't have said a thing, but since it was Danke42, you couldn't resist arguing against a perfectly valid point, simply because you're a compulsive contrarian. This isn't the first time you've done this; more like the severalth.
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How many people with 54 positive transactions or more have cheated people out of money? Still waiting for you to answer.

You keep swinging at the wrong target, and interestingly the same one Danke was swinging at. I’m not arguing that f&f is the ideal transaction method. I’m arguing that rolling up into the GBU to ask “did you pay f&f?” just to set up “I told you so” is beating a dead horse. People know f&f doesn’t allow claims. They’re paying f&f because the seller doesn’t want to pay taxes. Ideal or not, nearly everyone is doing it.
Planterz said:
If he'd paid G&S, with the knife being in the seller's possession, he could file a claim and get his money refunded. He paid F&F, and now he can't. So the seller will (maybe) send the knife back instead, violating the "a deal isn't done until both parties are satisfied" rule. The seller either gets negative feedback or shamed into doing the right thing.
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Thanks for the explanation on how f&f and g&s works, as well as how business is conducted on the exchange. 🙄
 
King of the Cheese said:
How many people with 54 positive transactions or more have cheated people out of money? Still waiting for you to answer.

You keep swinging at the wrong target, and interestingly the same one Danke was swinging at. I’m not arguing that f&f is the ideal transaction method. I’m arguing that rolling up into the GBU to ask “did you pay f&f?” just to set up “I told you so” is beating a dead horse.
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Says the troll that rolled in to this thread to troll and is now justifying his trolling with more trolling. I'm done with you here.
 
King of the Cheese said:
How many people with 54 positive transactions or more have cheated people out of money? Still waiting for you to answer.
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While not the norm, there have been some. Some even with the intention to scam from the begining. Some with a long history here that fell on hard times and didn't care how they solved their problems. And some that had steller feedback, but when put to the light, members starting telling a different story.
There are examples of this happening, but hopefully this seller will not join them, and do the right thing.
 
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If the buyer is unwilling to except a return, I’d recommend contacting CRK and have them fix the edge.
GlfSupr said:
And I didn’t feel like doing this because it’s his word against mine.
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No, it’s not his word against yours.

Your description in the for sale thread is lacking and contradicts what you said in the conversation afterwards.

You need to resolve this issue.
 
I have several dozen transaction here, i have been a member since shortly after bladeforums inception and while I have King of the Cheese on ignore as an inveterate troll, D Danke42 and Planterz Planterz are correct. If you keep see people getting scammed by members who only post in the for sale area and only accept F&F it is only a matter of time before you too are scammed here.
G GlfSupr you are responsible for accurately describing the knife, and if the buyer is not happy, accepting the return and refunding his money.
When your only supporter is a known troll who should have been banned a long time ago, you dropped the ball.
OP you can still file a claim with paypal and may still be able to get refunded through them or your bank
 
People, CRK sharpens knives for free. All this drama over what amounts to $25 shipping to send it in for sharpening... I think that much has already been spent shipping it back and forth LOL
 
Vince000 said:
People, CRK sharpens knives for free. All this drama over what amounts to $25 shipping to send it in for sharpening... I think that much has already been spent shipping it back and forth LOL
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I don’t know about you but I consider losing $25 and waiting a month for a sharpening a big inconvenience. Regardless, the seller didn’t disclose the true condition of the knife. I had a situation like this were the tip was chipped off and the photos made it hard to see and luckily the seller refunded me, but the seller needs to disclose the condition.

If you are unable to tell what chips in an edge or a bad sharpening job on a knife looks like, you have no business selling knives.
 
Vince000 said:
People, CRK sharpens knives for free. All this drama over what amounts to $25 shipping to send it in for sharpening... I think that much has already been spent shipping it back and forth LOL
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I doubt you can get 2 way shipping with insurance for $25 these days. USPS is getting a bit expensive(judging from my recent shipments). I am also unsure a simple sharpening fixes the problem. That said , the seller could offer shipping to and from the CRK. It should still be up to the buyer to accept that offer or return.
 
Just telling PP that the seller only accepts F&F payments for goods will likely get his PP account closed.

This could have been an easy fix for OP (as has been pointed out ) but there you have it.

As for the seller - can you produce - current - good before ship photos of the edge? If not - right or wrong by your way off thinking, doesn't matter - you need to man up dude and reimburse the buyer.
 
Peter Hartwig said:
I doubt you can get 2 way shipping with insurance for $25 these days. USPS is getting a bit expensive(judging from my recent shipments). I am also unsure a simple sharpening fixes the problem. That said , the seller could offer shipping to and from the CRK. It should still be up to the buyer to accept that offer or return.
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If you use Pirateship.com, you can definitely accomplish this. They offer good shipping discounts, and insure with a third party(Shipsurance) that actually pays out, vs USPS insurance.
 
None of the knife photos are good enough to show great detail of the beveled edge. The seller may have a new interest in buying guns, but doesn’t want to be a straight shooter in his knife business transaction here. A refund is in order and would resolve this issue.
 
This says everything I need to know about
the seller.
Not even a offer of a partial refund but just
a solid

Screw you.

Possible he may even keep the knife


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Contact PP and let them know what happened.

Go to local PO and open a claim for mail fraud.
 
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