Inkosi

I could have this wrong.. but is a 25 not a large Inkosi?

Aesthetically, yes for the most part. Functionally, there are some refinements that I think were hot button issues for many. Namely they angled the clip so it doesn't dig into hands like the 25 clip does, and I believe (someone correct me if I'm wrong as I haven't handled an Inkosi) they were gonna make the Inkosi stop pin not rely on Loctite and not need to be in a particular position when reassembling.

My personal opinion/hunch is they made the Inkosi a new line because they wanted to continue down this particular road of knife features, but don't want to discontinue the Sebenza 21 (which it seemed like would happen when the 25 was introduced). I think that's why we'll eventually see a Large Inkosi probably/possibly replace the Sebenza 25.
 
Can you take out the stop pin? Also, is it round (so it will turn) or does it only fit a certain way? Thanks for the pictures of the breakdown!
 
A question to those new inkosi owners, how does the inkosi compare to the small 21 in terms of is it a must have if you are a fan of the small 21? Is it an improvement or is it just great in its own right?
 
Large inkosi could be smaller than a large 21. Based on the current inkosi being smaller than a small 21.
 
So it is possible if a large inkosi came out it would be the medium everybody has been waiting for...
 
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Not really! The blade stop pin on the 25 has to be oriented a very specific way and is secured by screws from both sides. The Inkosi, while taking some of the design features from the 25, has a pin that is round and doesn't need to be removed from the side that it's secured to. Only the rear screw and pivot screw need to be removed. I removed the stop pin screw only to show parts. It quite literally could have stayed secured to the lock side of the handle.
 
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The Inkosi stop pin has no particular orientation and doesn't need to be removed at all. The pin is round and simply slides into the hole through opposite handle. The blade has more belly but is shorter than the small 21. And while I like the refinements I still prefer the styling on the 21. Just my preference.
 
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OK - half time and still able to type so here goes ....

The knife is small but is a good size for an EDC in my opinion. There is a place for a knife of this size regardless of what some chest thumpers say. It's the most solid "little guy" I've owned. I have had a ZT0900 which is a solid little guy but this CRK Inkosi is smaller and just as solid. Same for the DPX HEAT. I have small hands so the hand feel is pretty good to me but I could see where someone with larger hands might prefer the small Sebenza or just skip to a large. I had some concerns initially about where the grooves would hit my fingers and I'm still not sure how they will fit over time but right now they don't seem to be an issue. When I bear down on the knife I feel my pinky on the end of the handles more than fingers on the grooves. The angled pocket clip I think looks goofy but it does seem to improve the hand feel.

I like the fact this knife has more belly than the small Sebenza. I am interested to see if I'll be OK with the thicker blade stock for what I generally use a EDC knife for. The blade is centered and laser sharp. Lockup is solid with no play. When deploying the blade it's a bit more difficult to open than my 21s but this is normal for any 25 or Zaan which have similar make-up to the Inkosi. Not an issue, it's just noticeable. Once you overcome the initial break the blade is smooth as silk. When I release the lock bar the blade falls freely which is nice.

These have snake braid lanyards rather than the normal hangman's noose or whatever they are called. I also noticed they gave a little more slack which allows the braid to fall out of the way and not look like your knife has an erection when clipped in your pocket. I am leaving the lanyard on for a while but expect it will be untied and put back in the box within a couple of days like the rest of my CRKs.

OK, that's all the good stuff. Now, let's talk about the things which could be improved.

Before anyone tries to school me on what Chris says lock-up should be, etc. I know that. It's not an issue per se but it's noticeable mine is way past 50% lock-up. I would think mine is 70% or 80%. It's solid so I'm not worried. I am just saying most of my CRKs have always been between 50-60%.

The jimping on the blade should be extended more. I have small hands but even with my grip on this knife my thumb rests beyond the jimping. I'd suggest as much as 150% of the length of the existing jimping as a minimum.

The knife has double lugs which I think are really cool. However, there should be more relief cut-out on on the Ti slabs to give better access ... especially on the clip side. There is much less room on that side and I'd say the presentation side BARELY allows enough access. Also noticeable, the blue anodizing on the tip of the thumb stud was a bit worn right out of the box ... both sides. This is only a cosmetic issue only and by the end of this game playing with the knife I would have worn more of the blue off anyway ... just something I noticed.

The finish on the Ti slabs was perhaps the worst I've seen on any new (or even lightly used) CRK I've purchased ... and that's a lot of knives. There were a couple of light snail trails but more noticeable were dark/uneven spots in the blasting. Again, the finish is not a real issue for me. However, for some folks buying a knife that is close to $400 I expect some would complain and even consider sending it back for an exchange. I wouldn't even fault them for doing so. I'm not even considering that as this knife will be a user. I have had it in my pocket ever since opening the box. I have used it already on a few little tasks and by the time I've carried it a week or two the cosmetic issues with the Ti finish and the blue ano will be long forgotten.
 
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VolGrad's #6 and 7 photos show a good detailed view of the deep belly on the Inkosi. It should prove to be a great little blade for the usual EDC choirs that most of us deal with.
 
Nice pics and review VolGrad. You hit on a point that i knew would be a problem for me...the relief cutout for the studs. ..

Still prob get one😁
 
I've been playing with this a little more and check this out. One of my fears carried over from BLADE when I first handled this knife. The second finger groove is not wide enough. The sharp top hits me in the meat of my third finger. Not very comfortable.
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.... that ridge shouldn't even be there. If I had the skills to remove it without jacking up the whole knife I'd do it and the knife would be great. If I did the same and made more relief around the thumb studs it would be a perfect "little guy" EDC. At this point I'm a bit disappointed. I have small hands and it's an issue. I am certain guys with medium or large hands will have issues. Didn't anyone mention this as an issue during beta testing? Seriously. That's a legit question.
 
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That's a legit question.

Agree. I've been thinking for quite some time the community here does not focus enough on ergonomics. I love all the fit and finish and innovation, but ergonomics are critical for enjoying daily use. I was immediately concerned when I saw the pictures of how aggressive the finger to grooves were.
 
CRK has done a lengthy and extensive study in ergonomics, it's called the Sebenza 21. In both large and small versions it's perfect, neutral, versatile, and as comfortable as a slab-sided folder with open pillar construction can be, while allowing freedom of grip positions. Amazing that it works so well in both sizes. In my mind, it's hard to make the ergos better than a 21, so maybe the finger grooves on the Inkosi/25 are more of a design detail, to add visual interest, rather than make it more comfortable, and maybe that's also worthwhile in its way.
 
CRK has done a lengthy and extensive study in ergonomics, it's called the Sebenza 21. In both large and small versions it's perfect, neutral, versatile, and as comfortable as a slab-sided folder with open pillar construction can be, while allowing freedom of grip positions. Amazing that it works so well in both sizes. In my mind, it's hard to make the ergos better than a 21, so maybe the finger grooves on the Inkosi/25 are more of a design detail, to add visual interest, rather than make it more comfortable, and maybe that's also worthwhile in its way.

21 ergos are good, agree. Hard to improve on perhaps. The inkosi finger grooves may be a step backward in that regard, but I haven't held one yet. I was concerned about it based on pictures and it is an issue, at least for Volgrad's hands.
 
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I have small hands and it's an issue. I can only imagine how someone with large hands doesn't have issues with the grooves. I'm giving mine another day or two then I suspect I'll end up listing it for sale. I have a small classic that is just fine with me.

I'm sad about it as I was very excited about the Inkosi.
 
Just handled one at the CA knife show. Ergos for me where ok although my hand seemed a bit squished. My biggest complaint is that the thumb stud is too close to the handle when closed. It's a bit difficult (not necessarily hard) to deploy.
 
Why is there talk of a large Inkosi? Is there such a thing? The clip is angled so it puts pressure on the scale itself and not the lockbar. The clip on my 21 and 25 don't bother me in any way! Neither does the cutout on the 25.

I'm gonna have to give my Inkosi a few days before I come to any conclusions! Thanks for the pics Volgrad! If I'm like you Volgrad, I'll just sell mine too and put it towards an Insingo of some flavor.
 
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