is there any chance that busse kin go CMP3V?

Red Angel Dragnet said:
All their SR-101 is run at 58-60 RC, with typically around 25-30 degree per side edge and usually about .050" thickness right behind the edge bevel. Very brutal geometry IMO, Nate's 3V was advertised to be run significantly thinner on that model and held up outstandingly well through the concrete hammering. Granted that's only one test, but still it's a pretty rough one at that.
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certainly 3V is an excellent steel.
 
gsx-rboy750 said:
I am bot a fan boy of any steel. I was trying to source some infi from a manufacture.
If you saw my work table you could not call me a steel fan boy. I would be willing to conduct real world test and record it.
I would only need 2inches of the blades.
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I have seen your other posts and I think you have a lot invested in 3V. Not saying that it would make you impartial. Similarly, someone who has lots of SR101 is invested in it and though they would like to be impartial, they may not. I can say I would be impartial, but I cannot prove that. Having said that, I have no issue sending you a blade for testing. I would say you profile both blades to exactly the same and see what happens. I can ship mine out to you insured priority. I would expect the same from you when you are done. Lets talk about what testing should be done here on this thread.

Years ago I did my own tests of SR101 and INFI and SR77. My opinion was that SR101 is better all the way around than SR77. But INFI(old INFI have not tested new INFI)) beats them both easily in edge strength especially.
 
Perhaps have another corroborate the results after he's concluded the testing?

Also, another point to consider is that 3V can be heat treated differently depending on what is desired, whereas SR-101 is pretty much locked in to only one HT>
 
Red Angel Dragnet said:
Perhaps have another corroborate the results after he's concluded the testing?

Also, another point to consider is that 3V can be heat treated differently depending on what is desired, whereas SR-101 is pretty much locked in to only one HT>
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Sure, make it a two tester passaround or something. That is fine with me.
 
Ya totally. I started with 3V cause thats what I could get but quickly got zwear also since I dont care what works best I just want what works best. I have a piece of PD1 abd ztuff also that need to be finished.
I would like to stay real world so chopping wood, nails and the occasional concrete makes sense. I would like to stay real world thought. I think flexing past 30degrees can be done but is bot of practical value. I would like to focus on cutting and edge stablitiy and toughness at a given geometry.
I hope to not come off as a fan boy of anytype. I just want facts and from there get the most out of whatever. I would mail you some 3v or zwear to play with also but rather not destroy those. Lol.
I think for a first series of test keep it simple and maybe evolve the test from there if there is room for improvement.
 
Red Angel Dragnet said:
What would be the testing criteria exactly?
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I would say start off with cutting rope and cardboard till the blades dull.
Then move on to wood chopping with dulled edges?

Then resharpen the edge to a 3-4k grit level or so.

Then move on to chopping concrete blocks. Say 30 wacks per blade.Try to keep it to the same section of blade.

Then move on to batonning nails with a different part of the edge. !0 full cuts?

and note overall damage?

How does that sound?
 
Red Angel Dragnet said:
What would be the testing criteria exactly?
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I think....
-Test RC
-Make profiles the sane with the same sharpening method
-preform simple test which anyone who owned any of the blades may do or experience.
-analsys data
-open for further experienents that are within real world test.
I will be getting a microscope that can download pics soon.
Maybe rope cutting and controlled battoning to excert the same forces to the blade.
Then maybe a couple nails and finish with the cinder block???
 
As for flex tests, I think both of these steels are strong enough not worry about the flex.
 
Cobalt said:
PM me your details and I will try to get the knife out to you this weekend.
I think we are in the same boat for testing process
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I cant cause I am not a paying member yet. I just tried. My email is
I am a welder fabricator in my free time. Not a fancy lier. Some people get confused. I will take the email down in a while.
 
I think calling this a real world compario as opposed to VS makes sense. I can add zwear to the mix or leave it out but I get alot of pms about zwear and 3V.
I hand sand any profile changes and use 800, 1200 and a 3000 kings and a strop. I am open whatever
 
zwear? WTF? man, I have been away so long. All these new steels. lol
 
gsx-rboy750 said:
I think calling this a real world compario as opposed to VS makes sense. I can add zwear to the mix or leave it out but I get alot of pms about zwear and 3V.
I hand sand any profile changes and use 800, 1200 and a 3000 kings and a strop. I am open whatever
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that osunds god to me. Whatever you normally do. I am going to look up zwear.
 
We are currently testing 3V against SR-101 with the exact same grind geometry. Our tests are not complete but should be soon.

We are only interested in tests with the exact same grind geometry and tests which are done with mechanical testing. There are too many variants when testing by hand.

Should be fun.

Let's Drink!!! 👍

Jerry :D









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