is there any chance that busse kin go CMP3V?

I just read about an old post from Jerry comparing the two steels (3V and INFI) I was wondering if, when they did the test, did they subject 3V to iNFI's heat treatment...could that be the main difference between the two?
 
NuclearSwine said:
I just read about an old post from Jerry comparing the two steels (3V and INFI) I was wondering if, when they did the test, did they subject 3V to iNFI's heat treatment...could that be the main difference between the two?
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Chances are that when they compared the two, Busse probably followed the recommended HT protocol for 3V, likely provided by CPM or Bos
 
NuclearSwine said:
I just read about an old post from Jerry comparing the two steels (3V and INFI) I was wondering if, when they did the test, did they subject 3V to iNFI's heat treatment...could that be the main difference between the two?
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Really comparing 3V to INFI isnt fair as INFI was developed with a very certain use in mind that being one of the best all around knife steels ever. 3V wasn't even originally developed for use in knives also the best videos of 3V (the ones Nathan has done come to mind) show heat treats that are defiantly not industry standards. While industry standard heat treats will normally give a good knife they will seldom give a great one. That is what I think separates the great heat treaters such as Jerry Busse, Brad Stalsmith at Peters, and Phil Wilson to name a few is they are willing to go beyond the industry standards to adjust the heat treat protocols to give the knife more of the attributes they want in a knife.
 
PatrickKnight said:
Really comparing 3V to INFI isnt fair as INFI was developed with a very certain use in mind that being one of the best all around knife steels ever. 3V wasn't even originally developed for use in knives also the best videos of 3V (the ones Nathan has done come to mind) show heat treats that are defiantly not industry standards. While industry standard heat treats will normally give a good knife they will seldom give a great one. That is what I think separates the great heat treaters such as Jerry Busse, Brad Stalsmith at Peters, and Phil Wilson to name a few is they are willing to go beyond the industry standards to adjust the heat treat protocols to give the knife more of the attributes they want in a knife.
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I got all of that from reading the posts. I was just wondering it - during the testing - Busse subjected 3V to his heat treatment protocols? I'm not suggesting 3V is the best option, just curious.
 
3V Shouldn't cost more than that of SR-101 in the end. I remember reading somewhere way way back that Jerry's HT is a 40+ HR deal - I can only assume, much of the cost is in that. The cost of the energy used for the heat treat.
 
number41 said:
Yes according to this they have done a lot of testing on 3v....... where are those results? And why do they need to test 3v again? The problem is when you already said sr-101 outperformed 3v, why would you have a different outcome this time?
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Because heat treats evolve. Jerry may have finally found a HT he likes for 3V and is giving it a test. One thing to be sure of if they switch to 3V it was done with good reason but I sure hope they don't because I REALLY like SR101.
 
PatrickKnight said:
Because heat treats evolve. Jerry may have finally found a HT he likes for 3V and is giving it a test. One thing to be sure of if they switch to 3V it was done with good reason but I sure hope they don't because I REALLY like SR101.
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Exactly. Todays 3V HT has to be much better than even 5 years ago with the huge learning curve over the past 10 years. So I would love to see Jerry do a modern HT on 3V and see how it performs. I think he will be impressed, maybe not enough to use it since he has steels that encompass it most likely.
 
Notice Jerry said 3V will be tested against SR-101…..

A couple thoughts on this….

Grindability will still likely be painfully low no matter how 3V is Heat Treated. Higher Vanadium content steels such as 3V are really counterproductive here, for me this is a huge disadvantage vs. INFI or really any plain carbon steel. A survival/combat knife should be capable of being resharpened quickly in the field with less than ideal sharpening mediums.
 
Red Angel Dragnet said:
Notice Jerry said 3V will be tested against SR-101…..

A couple thoughts on this….

Grindability will still likely be painfully low no matter how 3V is Heat Treated. Higher Vanadium content steels such as 3V are really counterproductive here, for me this is a huge disadvantage vs. INFI or really any plain carbon steel. A survival/combat knife should be capable of being resharpened quickly in the field with less than ideal sharpening mediums.
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I had two fehrman and a zt 0100 in 3v. This^^^^were the reason why I sold them. But then again most people don't use there knives.
 
PatrickKnight said:
Because heat treats evolve. Jerry may have finally found a HT he likes for 3V and is giving it a test. One thing to be sure of if they switch to 3V it was done with good reason but I sure hope they don't because I REALLY like SR101.
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Yes could be possible..... but I doubt it.
 
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