Izula as a tactical fighter?

Good observations, Dylside. I have no knife fighting training and have wondered about the Izula as a weapon. As Dyl notes, you have to think slash. With less penetration, longer slashes become easier. Given the opportunity, I'm thinking soft tissue -- mid section, throat. But mostly I'd think defense. Blocking hands and arms with a knife has to be worth something. If I ever did use it to slash, I'd want to resist the easy backhand stab bringing the knife back to me to defend or slash again. No science behind my thinking, just what seems to make sense. I'd love to hear more knowledgeable thoughts from those who know.

I gave a friend a knife for Christmas and it just scared him. He figured if he pulled it, the bad guy would take it away and use it on him. I figure it's easier taking on a guy than taking on guy with a knife.
 
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Who and why would you fight. A tactical fighter??? Why? I would say anything in your hand might give you better odds like a rock or a stick for example. You are better off carrying an expandable baton or some pepper spray then trying to get into a knife fight. I have seen a knife fight and it is not a pretty thing in the least. Your would be better off either avoiding a confrontation or knowing how to fight using what God gave you. Why are tactical fighting knives such a hot issue are there really that many tactical knife fighters out there?
 
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Kicking or stepping on a guys sack, fingers in the eyes, punching/sticking your thumbs in a guys throat, a hot cup of coffee in the face or just using anything that's not bolted down to smash someone with might be better than the Izula for someone who has no knife training.

I'm not saying don't carry a blade or something else to use to defend yourself, but don't just limit yourself to that one item. There might be easier and more effective ways of stopping or avoiding a fight than stabbing/slashing someone.
 
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Im a big fan of the addage that a fighting knife is the knife you have with you when you get into a fight.

I disagree with dylside on two things

Remember that the 9/11 hijackers used box cutters, if your in control of your battle space then there is no reason an izula couldnt be an effective weapon.

Secondly my favorite tactical/fighting knife is about a quarter inch thick. i know for a fact that it can slash someones arm to the bone.
http://www.bladehq.com/item--Green-Microtech-Crosshair--4430
 
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I love the grip on the izula for utility tasks, but the impact of a slash or stab would likely dislodge the blade. I much prefer an RC-3 as my back pocket SD blade, but my extendable asp baton in my LF pocket would be more effective.
 
The Izula is a utility knife, not a fighting knife. However, I could very easily see somebody getting messed up badly with one. It's not the tool, it's the user. The standard "sewing machine" method used in prisons is proven to be VERY effective, and I can tell you (by using it on hogs) that the Izula can do this "technique" effortlessly. Again, it's the user, not the tool.
 
Ok, well first off, the Izula is designed to be a Survival Tool, not a specific fighting weapon. That being said, I read about a case in the 80's where a guy killed an attacker with a 58mm SAK, probably the least likely "fighting" knife ever made.

Survival may include having to defend ones self from an attacker, and in that case, the Izula will work just fine as long as you are within reach of the person. Ideal for that use? No, as D said, there are better ways to shape a knife for more effective cutting, slashing, and stabbing. But would it work in the long run? Sure, especially if that was the knife you were use to using all the time.
 
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Better to have it and not need it, than to need it and not have it. But, if I needed a blade for that purpose, I'd much rather it was a clay-baked Katana... or actually, an Apache helicopter with rockets.
What I'm saying is that in a situation, you'll have to make due with what you have, but I wouldn't plan on fighting with a Izula. If that was my purpose for having it, then I'd really be bringing a toothpick to a gunfight.
The Izula is a small utility blade and much like a swiss army knife, yes — it can kill somebody, but is it really the best choice for that purpose..?
 
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Being somebody who does not know much about knife fighting, and would not get into an offensive fight with a knife, I have always been under the belief that the knife I have on me should also be able to be used as a last ditch defensive tool. I carry a BM 551 everywhere I go and I carry it for utility purposes, but I also know that I could use it if I had to in a defensive encounter. So by that standard I would say that the Izula would be a poor tactical fighter, but I would say that in the hands of the right person it would make a good defensive weapon.

Basically its the age old argument of which is the best survival knife out there, it always has been and always will be the one you have in your pocket when the sh*t hits the fan.
 
You can kill anyone at anytime with something as simple as a sharpened toothbrush just look at the prison systems. Everyone has some good points though. If I was ever faced with the situation I would rather have my Ka-bar on me, but I don't carry it as much as my Izula or smaller pocket knife. Any blade is better than no blade:)
 
It's a little on the small side but when asked what is the best knife to use if you are attached? I would recommend the one you have with you. If that's the Izula, make the most of the situation.

I anyone left the house that day thinking they would need a knife for protection, i would recommend a dependable firearm. Never bring a knife to a gun fight.
 
The Izula is too short and too thick but could do in a pinch.

The RC-3 is much better suited to the task because it is thin, wide, light and fast. The RC-4 doesn't work for me because it is too thick and heavy to move quickly enough.

The Izula is great for daily chores and as a backup survival knife though...
 
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D1omedes said:
How about a gun?
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Train force on force with a guy that knows how to use a knife and see how your gun fares for you. I bet you go "Well that sucked" when you're done. :D

The term "fighting knife" is only overused about as much as "tactical" is. I wouldn't want to get cut with an Izula, but it wouldn't be my choice if I HAD to use a knife.

Rule #1 of a knife fight? You WILL get cut.
 
combatjiujitsu said:
What do you guys think?
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If it’s necessary to ask whether or not a blade (any blade) would work as a “tactical fighter” you should look at different options.
 
First off, I would never want to be in a knife fight. And if by some reason someone approached me knife in hand I would run faster than Usain Bolt to get out of there. I do not want nor do I need to take any unnecessary risks.

Now if my fiance` or someone I cared about was with me you can bet your life I would fight with whatever I could get my hands on be it an Izula, a toothpick, or a whistle. My fiance` already knows to run in a situation like this and call for help.
 
A knife is just as affective as a gun within arms reach and in some ways faster.

And you don't need a big knife. Go after the parts that allow them to move or hold a weapon like the flexor tendons or bicep and tricep muscles. Anything that comes near you comes back useless. The idea is to incapacitate your attacker long enough to get away.

I don't know about military use of a knife. I'm sure that's something different.
 
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roar-k said:
First off, I would never want to be in a knife fight. And if by some reason someone approached me knife in hand I would run faster than Usain Bolt to get out of there. I do not want nor do I need to take any unnecessary risks.
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Good advice but I would change "knife fight" To any fight =)
 
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