Ive had two negotiations with Jack Alvarez, aka jaxurman, and intended to post the entire transcript of our emails here on GBU. But after running the idea by a moderator, Ive been told the material is probably too lengthy to be useful as a posting here. The emails are available to anyone who requests them.
In the first transaction on a knife I had up for sale on the forums, he offered me a lower price, which I politely refused. After I sold the knife for my asking price, Jack emailed me offering to pay the full price, and suggested the following:
e mail the guy (third party name deleted) and just let him know the deal that we had e mail problems or whatever i will pay you an extra 5.00for the shipping fair enough ??? i am not asking you to be dishonest as this is the truth we were in negotiations on the knife so i think i should get it first
Of course, that we were in negotiations on the knife was not the truth at all, as I had rejected his lowball, and he had expressed no further interest in the knife. I wonder how the other guy would have felt if Id complied with Jacks instructions and told him the knife was unsold. Obviously, I told Jack to back off and forget it.
In the second transaction, he emailed me with some interest in a piece I offered for sale for $2,000 on the forums. I responded to him by email and tried to call him by phone, as he requested, but after two tries, couldnt get him. The next day, I had an offer from a forumite who said hed send me $500.00 right away and could pay the rest of the $2000 over a few weeks, with me keeping the knife until the full $2000 was paid.
There were still details of the arrangement to be worked out, but I emailed Jack to say it looked like I had a buyer on a payment basis, and that the knife probably would be marked sold if the details could be worked out. The next day, Jack responded as follows:
...this is the second time that this has happened , with me dealing with you on a knife, i do not understand i really think this is unfair i have no problem with the price and would be able to pay yo all at once i am truly disappointed as i was serious about adding this to my collection it surprises me that you would be willing to take payments when you could have all the cash now at one time
As I still had not received acceptance of details from the first trader, I both emailed and called Jack, saying if he wanted the knife for cash all he had to do was verify that he was sending $2,000 and the knife was his. He said he would have to get the cash from New York, and it would take him a few days. After insisting in the above email that I could have all the cash now at one time, I thought this was squirrelly, but agreed that if he could guarantee delivering payment within a week, we had a deal. I emailed the other buyer again, who graciously replied that he understood, since he could not offer all cash at that time.
Now its been more than two weeks since the deal was struck, and ten days past when he said he would deliver, and jaxurman is still protesting that he needs more time to raise the money. He successfully derailed my other negotiation by promising cash up front, which he obviously knew he could not deliver. This has left a bad taste in my mouth, a taste that smacks of fraud to me. If the delay had been from a trader who I knew and trusted, or even from a newbie, I probably would have let it slide. But this is all part of a pattern of insolence and empty blustering from Jack Alvarez, and makes me feel he knew all along what he was doing. Ive terminated the deal, and as I say, would be happy to make available a transcript of emails on both transactions to anyone who would like a copy.
This is all I have to say about this matter. The emails speak for themselves. Im sure this will spark another I said/he said flaming, but I have nothing more to add. If youd like more info, please contact me privately.
--Will
In the first transaction on a knife I had up for sale on the forums, he offered me a lower price, which I politely refused. After I sold the knife for my asking price, Jack emailed me offering to pay the full price, and suggested the following:
e mail the guy (third party name deleted) and just let him know the deal that we had e mail problems or whatever i will pay you an extra 5.00for the shipping fair enough ??? i am not asking you to be dishonest as this is the truth we were in negotiations on the knife so i think i should get it first
Of course, that we were in negotiations on the knife was not the truth at all, as I had rejected his lowball, and he had expressed no further interest in the knife. I wonder how the other guy would have felt if Id complied with Jacks instructions and told him the knife was unsold. Obviously, I told Jack to back off and forget it.
In the second transaction, he emailed me with some interest in a piece I offered for sale for $2,000 on the forums. I responded to him by email and tried to call him by phone, as he requested, but after two tries, couldnt get him. The next day, I had an offer from a forumite who said hed send me $500.00 right away and could pay the rest of the $2000 over a few weeks, with me keeping the knife until the full $2000 was paid.
There were still details of the arrangement to be worked out, but I emailed Jack to say it looked like I had a buyer on a payment basis, and that the knife probably would be marked sold if the details could be worked out. The next day, Jack responded as follows:
...this is the second time that this has happened , with me dealing with you on a knife, i do not understand i really think this is unfair i have no problem with the price and would be able to pay yo all at once i am truly disappointed as i was serious about adding this to my collection it surprises me that you would be willing to take payments when you could have all the cash now at one time
As I still had not received acceptance of details from the first trader, I both emailed and called Jack, saying if he wanted the knife for cash all he had to do was verify that he was sending $2,000 and the knife was his. He said he would have to get the cash from New York, and it would take him a few days. After insisting in the above email that I could have all the cash now at one time, I thought this was squirrelly, but agreed that if he could guarantee delivering payment within a week, we had a deal. I emailed the other buyer again, who graciously replied that he understood, since he could not offer all cash at that time.
Now its been more than two weeks since the deal was struck, and ten days past when he said he would deliver, and jaxurman is still protesting that he needs more time to raise the money. He successfully derailed my other negotiation by promising cash up front, which he obviously knew he could not deliver. This has left a bad taste in my mouth, a taste that smacks of fraud to me. If the delay had been from a trader who I knew and trusted, or even from a newbie, I probably would have let it slide. But this is all part of a pattern of insolence and empty blustering from Jack Alvarez, and makes me feel he knew all along what he was doing. Ive terminated the deal, and as I say, would be happy to make available a transcript of emails on both transactions to anyone who would like a copy.
This is all I have to say about this matter. The emails speak for themselves. Im sure this will spark another I said/he said flaming, but I have nothing more to add. If youd like more info, please contact me privately.
--Will
