investments . i dont use or carry them . i collect them .if i had the choice , i would rather make money than lose money .i constantly strive to improve my collection . if i sell a knife and a profit is made , guess what , it buys more knives .here is a "quizz" for those who want to try and get me booted and banned on bf . look up all the knives i have sold . go thru the posts and see the knives i bought .the duncan is the only knife that comes to mind that i bought off the forums and sold . in fact i did not sell it . i traded it .ask mike aos .when i sell or trade it is simply that my vast collection goes yet another way .plain and simple .i wanted will yorks knife because i am now collecting knives in stellite and talonite .i own the largest fixed blade carson in stellite - ask kit ask larry brahms at bladeart .i did not want to buy the carson scwarzer to sell it was for my collection as was gig ones mayo tnt .
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Jack,
I was standing right next to you in line when you asked him. Remember you were third in line and I was fourth. I was directly to your right when you bought your knife. I'm quite sure I heard correctly. You can say I twisted your words, or call me a liar...whatevers dude, I'm quite positive of what I heard and whose mouth it came from.
Being a friend with Ken has little to do with how many knives I've bought from him (just for the record you've probably bought more knives from him) and it has little to do with how long you've known someone (you've probably known him for 8 years or so since I think that's how long he's done Vegas). Being is friend is about watching out their interests. At Ken's table I pay particular attention whose talking and saying what and where the knives and hands are. It has to do with knives disappearing from a table. But anyway, I'm sure Ken holds nothing against you, because things like that are so inconsequential to him that they are quickly ignored.
But that's not my point. My point is I've seen face to face what kind of guy you are - or what kind of guy you present yourself as anyway. I just say one thing, the Jaxurman you see on the net is the same Jaxurman I met. People are free to take it or leave it.
Your personality type is one that I would not care to conduct business with, not would I recommend that type of person to a friend or stranger. I don't like how you're going around calling long time forum members outright liars. I respect these guys and take their word over yours. Maybe you don't think how long someones been around is relevant. I think in the community sense being an active contributor for two or three years holds some clout.
I too am curious about the articles by Jack Alvarez on the Eugene knife club site.
~Mitch
I was standing right next to you in line when you asked him. Remember you were third in line and I was fourth. I was directly to your right when you bought your knife. I'm quite sure I heard correctly. You can say I twisted your words, or call me a liar...whatevers dude, I'm quite positive of what I heard and whose mouth it came from.
Being a friend with Ken has little to do with how many knives I've bought from him (just for the record you've probably bought more knives from him) and it has little to do with how long you've known someone (you've probably known him for 8 years or so since I think that's how long he's done Vegas). Being is friend is about watching out their interests. At Ken's table I pay particular attention whose talking and saying what and where the knives and hands are. It has to do with knives disappearing from a table. But anyway, I'm sure Ken holds nothing against you, because things like that are so inconsequential to him that they are quickly ignored.
But that's not my point. My point is I've seen face to face what kind of guy you are - or what kind of guy you present yourself as anyway. I just say one thing, the Jaxurman you see on the net is the same Jaxurman I met. People are free to take it or leave it.
Your personality type is one that I would not care to conduct business with, not would I recommend that type of person to a friend or stranger. I don't like how you're going around calling long time forum members outright liars. I respect these guys and take their word over yours. Maybe you don't think how long someones been around is relevant. I think in the community sense being an active contributor for two or three years holds some clout.
I too am curious about the articles by Jack Alvarez on the Eugene knife club site.
~Mitch
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Ryan, I dont think you need to "prove" yourself. I think its plain to see that you are honest and well respected here.
Jax screams and cusses about honor, yet he tells other folks to back out of deals and tell a third party "whoops, I goofed and Jax gets the deal". There is no honor in his trying to crash other people making a deal, just so he can get it. You know, from reading his stuff he has some twisted idea that its owed to him.
Jax, your saying that "tell the other guy that I was here first" even when thats not accurate and saying that somebody should cease dealing with a person because you have more money is sad. Do you really think that its all about money and that money is a substitute for honor and integrity?
Lets pretend Jax that I have a knife you want. I would much rather sell it to somebody paying me 1 dollar a month if they were polite and honest, than to you even if you sent me a truck load of money.
I suppose Spark doesnt care to much that Jax uses BF as his own little playground to find targets for his antics...as long as there is no concrete proof that hes a dealer. Im not sure just how much more proof there could be though.
To allow somebody to continue here when the deals they make lead to Jax possibly calling them on the phone and completely going stark raving mad is just silly.
As I alluded to before, there have been people banned from here for far less. It just makes ya really wonder what the connection is.
Jax screams and cusses about honor, yet he tells other folks to back out of deals and tell a third party "whoops, I goofed and Jax gets the deal". There is no honor in his trying to crash other people making a deal, just so he can get it. You know, from reading his stuff he has some twisted idea that its owed to him.
Jax, your saying that "tell the other guy that I was here first" even when thats not accurate and saying that somebody should cease dealing with a person because you have more money is sad. Do you really think that its all about money and that money is a substitute for honor and integrity?
Lets pretend Jax that I have a knife you want. I would much rather sell it to somebody paying me 1 dollar a month if they were polite and honest, than to you even if you sent me a truck load of money.
I suppose Spark doesnt care to much that Jax uses BF as his own little playground to find targets for his antics...as long as there is no concrete proof that hes a dealer. Im not sure just how much more proof there could be though.
To allow somebody to continue here when the deals they make lead to Jax possibly calling them on the phone and completely going stark raving mad is just silly.
As I alluded to before, there have been people banned from here for far less. It just makes ya really wonder what the connection is.
Here's the link for that Eugene thing Troy was talking about:
http://oregonknifeclub.org/alvar_01.html
http://oregonknifeclub.org/alvar_02.html
http://oregonknifeclub.org/alvar_03.html
Will, sorry this thread has deviate so far from it's original direction.
~Mitch
http://oregonknifeclub.org/alvar_01.html
http://oregonknifeclub.org/alvar_02.html
http://oregonknifeclub.org/alvar_03.html
Will, sorry this thread has deviate so far from it's original direction.
~Mitch
I realize I'm a new face here, but I've been following this thread with interest since shortly after Jack's altercation with GigOne.
Jack inquired after an Emerson Super Commander that I had listed for trade. As I had just read stories about his high-pressure tactics I immediately made it clear to him that I wasn't interested in dealing with him. I see I made the right decision. I've lurked here for a while and I don't think I've ever seen Ryan Malpiede angry.
I'd like to add my name to the list of people who would like to know whether Jack is the same Jack Alvarez as the writer of the articles in question.
Jack inquired after an Emerson Super Commander that I had listed for trade. As I had just read stories about his high-pressure tactics I immediately made it clear to him that I wasn't interested in dealing with him. I see I made the right decision. I've lurked here for a while and I don't think I've ever seen Ryan Malpiede angry.
I'd like to add my name to the list of people who would like to know whether Jack is the same Jack Alvarez as the writer of the articles in question.
since all these people know so much about me why would one ask??? it has been stated that those articles were well written by a very intelligent person .i have been labeled here as anything but that .also those articles showed correct grammar and punctuation . i have been told i write like i am a moron/retard 
as for my referring to ryan malpiede as "trinket boy" it is simply my attempt to find humor in such a sad , pathetic individual . the drivel he claims was said is false and the alleged "threat" is also false .a "threat "needs to be expressed , implied , and intended to be valid . also one needs to be able to act on it as well . the 2 deals i did with ryan , i treated him very well indeed . in fact i lost money on my very first deal with him .i think he is the lunatic here not me let it go ryan , 
your anger that is , the consuming need to get me banned . focus your energy on selling a million spycaps , buying the forum from SPARK , THEN YOU CAN BAN ME !! REMEMBER RYAN , JESUS LOVES YOU , BUT I DONT 
JAXURMAN
as for my referring to ryan malpiede as "trinket boy" it is simply my attempt to find humor in such a sad , pathetic individual . the drivel he claims was said is false and the alleged "threat" is also false .a "threat "needs to be expressed , implied , and intended to be valid . also one needs to be able to act on it as well . the 2 deals i did with ryan , i treated him very well indeed . in fact i lost money on my very first deal with him .i think he is the lunatic here not me let it go ryan , your anger that is , the consuming need to get me banned . focus your energy on selling a million spycaps , buying the forum from SPARK , THEN YOU CAN BAN ME !! REMEMBER RYAN , JESUS LOVES YOU , BUT I DONT JAXURMAN beware - uw mitch also monitors conversations 
mitch , you are killing me with this goofy stuff !!! and people think i am crazy go figure !!!i think i asked recluse the question as to what onions are the most popular or desirable if you recall it was recluse , sniperboy , me , you .like i said , i made it clear , i wanted a large carbon fiber and tit handle onion .i remember asking kevin that and the prices thats it . why you getting weird about this . i think i might call ken to see if he is as puked out about this crap you allege i said to him . yeah , right whats next , you going to say the only reason i was in vegas was to insult ken onion??get real .like i said , i know him a long time . i respect him as well .i am really tired of people getting in my face about stupid stuff .like i said before , ibought knives from ken show #1. same thing i had to remind one of the "usual suspects "of i was the "grandaddy "of the usual suspects . i was buying lots of emerson customs before the phrase usual suspect was ever coined .i used to go to emersons house .ask les robertson .i was among the first civilians to have an esm 1 proto or the sentry removal tool . or the sculpted handle black blade cqc 8 with a guthook .in the early days , no one had more custom emersons in their collection than me !!! JAXURMANwell, if all this venom could be used against arab fundamentalists, the current probs would be over in days if not hours.......
MY experiences w/jack have all been positive, he's never been rude/never shouted , i wouldnt put up w/it if he did, would simply hang up the phone, could never listen to anyone go on and on and on for 2 hours...............not w/out a little screaming of my own lol
i guess the best thing is for those of us who wanna deal w/him, go for it, if ya dont wanna, dont, pretty simple imho - i dont think he has anything that cant be found, w/a little huntin, somewere else...
agreed, no one should threaten another , jeez, were all supposed to be, well if not buds, at least we all share a few common interests -
is jack a dealer? heck i dont know, i havent ever seen a knife i've sold/traded to him for sale/trade at BF, anyway, never really check other forums, but not at BF - and its been i would say 6-8, mostly spydies and a BM proto, i woulda noticed - spark dont think so and he's the one who matters, so what does my opinion matter on this?? prob nothing
he(jack) wanted a spydie i had, and while persistant w/trade offers, he wasnt ever rude, like i say, i wouldnt put up w/it - delete mail/hang up, its too easy, nobody wants to hear a bunch of crap from someone, thats for sure
anyway, best to all, hope this works out in a positive way, whatever that may be.........
sifu
MY experiences w/jack have all been positive, he's never been rude/never shouted , i wouldnt put up w/it if he did, would simply hang up the phone, could never listen to anyone go on and on and on for 2 hours...............not w/out a little screaming of my own lol
i guess the best thing is for those of us who wanna deal w/him, go for it, if ya dont wanna, dont, pretty simple imho - i dont think he has anything that cant be found, w/a little huntin, somewere else...
agreed, no one should threaten another , jeez, were all supposed to be, well if not buds, at least we all share a few common interests -
is jack a dealer? heck i dont know, i havent ever seen a knife i've sold/traded to him for sale/trade at BF, anyway, never really check other forums, but not at BF - and its been i would say 6-8, mostly spydies and a BM proto, i woulda noticed - spark dont think so and he's the one who matters, so what does my opinion matter on this?? prob nothing
he(jack) wanted a spydie i had, and while persistant w/trade offers, he wasnt ever rude, like i say, i wouldnt put up w/it - delete mail/hang up, its too easy, nobody wants to hear a bunch of crap from someone, thats for sure
anyway, best to all, hope this works out in a positive way, whatever that may be.........
sifu
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!!! really mel , tell them about our deals . you know i did you right getting you at least 2 rare blades you were tickled pink with - tell me i am lying
JAXURMAN
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If that's not dealer talk, I dunno what is? I have never dealt with the man, but his scent is dealer. Otherwise he just has WAAAAAAYYYYYYY too much time on his hands and no handwarmer
JC
P.S. Handwarmer is slang for attractive female partner willing to engage in sexual activities on a daily basis.
JC
!!! really mel , tell them about our deals . you know i did you right getting you at least 2 rare blades you were tickled pink with - tell me i am lying
JAXURMAN
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If that's not dealer talk, I dunno what is? I have never dealt with the man, but his scent is dealer. Otherwise he just has WAAAAAAYYYYYYY too much time on his hands and no handwarmer
JC
P.S. Handwarmer is slang for attractive female partner willing to engage in sexual activities on a daily basis.
JC
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of course not!!!!!! Jack had someone write it on his behalf!!!!
Jack, give it up. You are like my 15 year old son who has a severe case of ADHD. Extremely impulsive, constantly running his mouth with inapproriate crap, uses threats and intimidation, and then DENIES he has done anything wrong.
Go back Jack and read your post on "knives as an investment". You do not use knives, you collect them to SELL THEM. What does that make you?
In the three "almost deals" you and I had, it was my honor that became the issue because I could not handle your escalating pressure and threatening E-mails. The Duncan "Deal" was the last-straw. I "had to pay you $400 to prove to JAXURMAN that I was of the caliber to be allowed to deal with you". Then as the price went up as my "punishment" for "punking" you on two other knives you took in trade from someone on BF and tried to sell to me for a profit. I said yes, found out how much more you were asking, and said NO WAY, within an hour of saying yes. You never even had to post "deal pending". But hammer me with profanities in E-mail and here? YOU BET!!!!
Jack, backing out of transactions when the Dealer asks for too large a profit does not make me the "Punk". It makes you the "Dealer" who just asked for too large a profit margin. Remeber the Duncan, Jack? A $150.00 profit in less than a week is/was bullsh*t.
But, I know you did not write that article, but are you the same Jack Alvarez mentioned as the author????? I say YUP...........Ira
Jack, give it up. You are like my 15 year old son who has a severe case of ADHD. Extremely impulsive, constantly running his mouth with inapproriate crap, uses threats and intimidation, and then DENIES he has done anything wrong.
Go back Jack and read your post on "knives as an investment". You do not use knives, you collect them to SELL THEM. What does that make you?
In the three "almost deals" you and I had, it was my honor that became the issue because I could not handle your escalating pressure and threatening E-mails. The Duncan "Deal" was the last-straw. I "had to pay you $400 to prove to JAXURMAN that I was of the caliber to be allowed to deal with you". Then as the price went up as my "punishment" for "punking" you on two other knives you took in trade from someone on BF and tried to sell to me for a profit. I said yes, found out how much more you were asking, and said NO WAY, within an hour of saying yes. You never even had to post "deal pending". But hammer me with profanities in E-mail and here? YOU BET!!!!
Jack, backing out of transactions when the Dealer asks for too large a profit does not make me the "Punk". It makes you the "Dealer" who just asked for too large a profit margin. Remeber the Duncan, Jack? A $150.00 profit in less than a week is/was bullsh*t.
But, I know you did not write that article, but are you the same Jack Alvarez mentioned as the author????? I say YUP...........Ira
Jaxurman...
I have nothing against you personally, but the people you are arguing with here have my respect already. I may be just a lowly PEON in your opinion but...
I have traded away a lot of my FAVORITE possessions for knives I really wanted in the last couple of months... but I tell you what... The TNT I am getting from Tom Mayo probably means more to me than a FIVE thousand dollar knife would to you... Hey, it's great that you know Ernest Emerson.... I think everybody knows SOMEBODY famous... and if there happened to be a "BrewerForum" I could talk all about how I know some of the most famous brewers in the U.S. BUT I WOULDN'T!
Yes, I am proud to know some of those brewers, as they really are FRIENDS of mine, and have helped me out greatly in the past... If I were to bring up one of their names here to justify myself in anything, however, I do not feel they would be pleased...
Like I said, I don't know you... but I feel I am a good judge of character... and the way you have presented yourself here has not exactly been exemplary. Some of us do not consider knives an 'investment' as you do... I do not find any real fault in your opinion of them as such... but don't push that onto other people...
-Dave
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I have nothing against you personally, but the people you are arguing with here have my respect already. I may be just a lowly PEON in your opinion but...
I have traded away a lot of my FAVORITE possessions for knives I really wanted in the last couple of months... but I tell you what... The TNT I am getting from Tom Mayo probably means more to me than a FIVE thousand dollar knife would to you... Hey, it's great that you know Ernest Emerson.... I think everybody knows SOMEBODY famous... and if there happened to be a "BrewerForum" I could talk all about how I know some of the most famous brewers in the U.S. BUT I WOULDN'T!
Yes, I am proud to know some of those brewers, as they really are FRIENDS of mine, and have helped me out greatly in the past... If I were to bring up one of their names here to justify myself in anything, however, I do not feel they would be pleased...
Like I said, I don't know you... but I feel I am a good judge of character... and the way you have presented yourself here has not exactly been exemplary. Some of us do not consider knives an 'investment' as you do... I do not find any real fault in your opinion of them as such... but don't push that onto other people...
-Dave
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Jack,
I'm not sure you understand the point of what I was trying to say. You seem to something think this has something to do with a knifemaker. Well it doesn't. I'd advise you to go back and actually read the words which I have typed. I think you will find I was quite clear about what I was saying. Actually to make things clearer for you, I'll just quote myself on the particularly important section:
I don't know how I could have been more clear about what I was saying.
Laters Jack,
Mitch
I'm not sure you understand the point of what I was trying to say. You seem to something think this has something to do with a knifemaker. Well it doesn't. I'd advise you to go back and actually read the words which I have typed. I think you will find I was quite clear about what I was saying. Actually to make things clearer for you, I'll just quote myself on the particularly important section:
I don't know how I could have been more clear about what I was saying.
Laters Jack,
Mitch
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Mel, I am not defending Jack. All I am saying is that in the dealings that I have had with him he has always treated me with respect. He has never used one word of foul language and has never been agressive or rude. For these reasons I would be totally willing to do a deal with him if one of interest to me comes up in the future.
Do I condone the way he treats others? No, I most certainly do not. Do I worry that his tactics may intimidate and scare away new members? Yes, as a matter of fact I do.
I do not for one minute think that Ryan and some others are just out to get Jack. I respect the people that are raising these issues about Jack and do not believe they would make these kinds of things up. I have read Will's emails and know that Jack made some big mistakes in how he handles things in those deals.
If all of the people that are trying to get Jack banned truely believe that that is the only acceptable final outcome, then they should continue to fight for that goal. You must do what you feel is right and my respect goes out to those that try to fight the good fight.
Do I condone the way he treats others? No, I most certainly do not. Do I worry that his tactics may intimidate and scare away new members? Yes, as a matter of fact I do.
I do not for one minute think that Ryan and some others are just out to get Jack. I respect the people that are raising these issues about Jack and do not believe they would make these kinds of things up. I have read Will's emails and know that Jack made some big mistakes in how he handles things in those deals.
If all of the people that are trying to get Jack banned truely believe that that is the only acceptable final outcome, then they should continue to fight for that goal. You must do what you feel is right and my respect goes out to those that try to fight the good fight.
I went and read those articles, I'll quote from one of them here:
"I, as a dealer, ..."
I've never dealt with Jaxurman, but it seems to me if the guy wrote the articles, and in an article he proclaims himself a dealer. Then that makes him a dealer, at least by his own definitiion when the article was written.
I don't kow what Spark's definition of a dealer is so I won't comment on that.
"I, as a dealer, ..."
I've never dealt with Jaxurman, but it seems to me if the guy wrote the articles, and in an article he proclaims himself a dealer. Then that makes him a dealer, at least by his own definitiion when the article was written.
I don't kow what Spark's definition of a dealer is so I won't comment on that.
OK, like I said before I did a deal with Jack.
Did I get pressured, yes.
Was it as good a deal for both of us, no. But a deal is a deal.
Did he ask me (twice) to post in GBU, yes.
Will I ever do another deal with Jack, no!
The reason why? We agreed to ship (my 4 knives plus m.o.for his one knife) the same day. I did, Jack didn't. He waited till he had received my package to ship his to me. I've been around BF a lot longer than Jack, I have absolutely nothing but positives in GBU (and have never asked for one to be posted! A big deal, no. But your word is your word and in my book if you say you'll do something you do it or explain why not. I guess all the time I'd been around BF meant nothing to Jack cause I had not dealt with the 'major playa' before
Jack says it's about 'honor and integrity' he says 'it's not about the money, it's about the love of knives' , sorry buddy but I callbulls**t . With Jack it's always about Jack, first, last and everything in between. Just read the posts! It's about coming out 'ahead' on every single deal. He has said it over and over, all you have to do is read his posts. Some people use money to keep score in life. Good for them. I don't and I feel sorry for those who do, but it's their life.
I don't care if he's banned or not, some people I respect do and honestly I don't see where he brings anything to this Forum besides his $30 and a lot of wasted bandwidth in GBU. I know I'll never make another deal with him. I know I'll make a little extra effort to make sure anybody I deal with feels like they got the better end of a deal. This is a hobby for me. It's supposed to be fun, and usually is
BTW, I'm still waiting for Jack to answer everybody's question?
Did I get pressured, yes.
Was it as good a deal for both of us, no. But a deal is a deal.
Did he ask me (twice) to post in GBU, yes.
Will I ever do another deal with Jack, no!
The reason why? We agreed to ship (my 4 knives plus m.o.for his one knife) the same day. I did, Jack didn't. He waited till he had received my package to ship his to me. I've been around BF a lot longer than Jack, I have absolutely nothing but positives in GBU (and have never asked for one to be posted! A big deal, no. But your word is your word and in my book if you say you'll do something you do it or explain why not. I guess all the time I'd been around BF meant nothing to Jack cause I had not dealt with the 'major playa' before
Jack says it's about 'honor and integrity' he says 'it's not about the money, it's about the love of knives' , sorry buddy but I callbulls**t . With Jack it's always about Jack, first, last and everything in between. Just read the posts! It's about coming out 'ahead' on every single deal. He has said it over and over, all you have to do is read his posts. Some people use money to keep score in life. Good for them. I don't and I feel sorry for those who do, but it's their life.
I don't care if he's banned or not, some people I respect do and honestly I don't see where he brings anything to this Forum besides his $30 and a lot of wasted bandwidth in GBU. I know I'll never make another deal with him. I know I'll make a little extra effort to make sure anybody I deal with feels like they got the better end of a deal. This is a hobby for me. It's supposed to be fun, and usually is
BTW, I'm still waiting for Jack to answer everybody's question?
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Two things:
1. What good is GB&U if a person is not happy with a transaction and posts here that he is. Sheesh that one is bad
2. Just for the record I know and respect Mitch. He told me about the incident with Ken via TKCL 1 day after the show and used the same words. If Mitch says that is what he heard then that is what he heard as far as I am concerned. This stuff with Jax is not my concern, but I am not about to sit around and watch Jax or anyone hammer a respected friend again no matter who is doing the hammerin'.
1. What good is GB&U if a person is not happy with a transaction and posts here that he is. Sheesh that one is bad
2. Just for the record I know and respect Mitch. He told me about the incident with Ken via TKCL 1 day after the show and used the same words. If Mitch says that is what he heard then that is what he heard as far as I am concerned. This stuff with Jax is not my concern, but I am not about to sit around and watch Jax or anyone hammer a respected friend again no matter who is doing the hammerin'.
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Perhaps it's time for a simple thread to start under GBU entitled
"Will you deal with jaxurman?"
No depth to the responses, just simple affirmatives or negatives.
Let folks speak their minds with a vote.
I'm not sure a poll would be allowed, but then ya never know......
Why have I spoken up? I'm fairly new to better knives having gotten into them in 1999. I'm a guy starting to get into semi-customs and customs, aspiring to own just a few of them someday. Like many of you, I do this for one plain & simple reason........ENJOYMENT. I have limited funds to work with, so I avoid bad experiences like the plague and appreciate GBU and all that many of you do to keep things honest, civilized and enjoyable.
A person's efforts and actions often, if not always, indicate their motivations and what drives them as an individual. I read these threads to learn more about our communtiy here on BF and to take mental note of the quality citizens that populate this board. I hope that someday I will do a deal with many of you (might take getting the kids thru college, but someday....), but just from the methodology by which I've seen him handle himself here and on other threads I can assure you that "jaxisnotdaman". Sorry jax, keep your knives, there are other fish in the sea that do not reside at the bottom.
I'll be looking for that thread. I feel it's not my place to start it.
"Will you deal with jaxurman?"
No depth to the responses, just simple affirmatives or negatives.
Let folks speak their minds with a vote.
I'm not sure a poll would be allowed, but then ya never know......
Why have I spoken up? I'm fairly new to better knives having gotten into them in 1999. I'm a guy starting to get into semi-customs and customs, aspiring to own just a few of them someday. Like many of you, I do this for one plain & simple reason........ENJOYMENT. I have limited funds to work with, so I avoid bad experiences like the plague and appreciate GBU and all that many of you do to keep things honest, civilized and enjoyable.
A person's efforts and actions often, if not always, indicate their motivations and what drives them as an individual. I read these threads to learn more about our communtiy here on BF and to take mental note of the quality citizens that populate this board. I hope that someday I will do a deal with many of you (might take getting the kids thru college, but someday....), but just from the methodology by which I've seen him handle himself here and on other threads I can assure you that "jaxisnotdaman". Sorry jax, keep your knives, there are other fish in the sea that do not reside at the bottom.
I'll be looking for that thread. I feel it's not my place to start it.
Ban JAXURMAN from Blade Forums? No!
That he has become a controversial presence here on Blade Forums there can be no doubt. His communications and conduct in his transactions with various members have evoked widely differing reactions. His manner and the general tenor and presentation of his posts regarding these reactions have not served him well and tend to generate prejudice against him and whatever his case may be regardless of its merit.
Even so, it should be noted that his presence has, does and promises to continue to provide the membership some valuable contributions.
1. Some have found their transactions with him to be favorable and are satisfied with the results.
2. Member reaction to situations brought to BG&U by interaction with him has forced us to examine our own behavior and standards and clarify what we consider acceptable and are willing to put up with.
3. He has offered himself up as the benchmark for a "Player" to provide us a choice for individual aspiration.
4. Our collective reaction to him as expressed here on GB&U has established an inexhaustable store of adrenaline upon which we may draw when in need.
5. He provides an ongoing definition of arrogance to help each of us maintain a reign on the old ego.
6. Given each of us a clear choice as to whether or not to entertain a transaction with him.
I am indebted to UW Mitch for his personal testimony that JAXUMAN actually exists. For some time now I have been entertaining the idea that JAXURMAN is a cyber personality created pehaps by a psychology grad student to see how many psychological pathologies he could incorporate into one cyber personality and sell as an actual person to a knowledgeable audience.
All things considered I feel that his presence has been of great service to the membership.
That he has become a controversial presence here on Blade Forums there can be no doubt. His communications and conduct in his transactions with various members have evoked widely differing reactions. His manner and the general tenor and presentation of his posts regarding these reactions have not served him well and tend to generate prejudice against him and whatever his case may be regardless of its merit.
Even so, it should be noted that his presence has, does and promises to continue to provide the membership some valuable contributions.
1. Some have found their transactions with him to be favorable and are satisfied with the results.
2. Member reaction to situations brought to BG&U by interaction with him has forced us to examine our own behavior and standards and clarify what we consider acceptable and are willing to put up with.
3. He has offered himself up as the benchmark for a "Player" to provide us a choice for individual aspiration.
4. Our collective reaction to him as expressed here on GB&U has established an inexhaustable store of adrenaline upon which we may draw when in need.
5. He provides an ongoing definition of arrogance to help each of us maintain a reign on the old ego.
6. Given each of us a clear choice as to whether or not to entertain a transaction with him.
I am indebted to UW Mitch for his personal testimony that JAXUMAN actually exists. For some time now I have been entertaining the idea that JAXURMAN is a cyber personality created pehaps by a psychology grad student to see how many psychological pathologies he could incorporate into one cyber personality and sell as an actual person to a knowledgeable audience.
All things considered I feel that his presence has been of great service to the membership.
Wray,
I'm not going to go too in depth on this one, but many similar things could be said about the current enemies of the US. Now, before anyone gets their panties in a bunch, I am not comparing jax to Osama Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein or anyone else. What I am saying is that if you wish to come to the man's defense, why not tell us about the man's great character, integrity, etc... I don't think someone can or should be considered a valuable member of anything just because he has a product that is in demand and his actions provide us with the inspiration to not behave as poorly.
I'm not saying jax is bad. I don't know him. I won't ever consider doing business with him because 1) members that I have come to trust have spoken out against him, and 2) based on his track record I don't want to put myself in the position to be harassed.
I'm sure jax has his good points and if anyone cares to point them out I'm sure most will listen. Just don't say someone is good because their being bad makes us want to be better; therefore he is good. Logical fallacies suck.
-Al-
[Edited to say: Now I get it! (I'm sooo clueless sometimes.)]
I'm not going to go too in depth on this one, but many similar things could be said about the current enemies of the US. Now, before anyone gets their panties in a bunch, I am not comparing jax to Osama Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein or anyone else. What I am saying is that if you wish to come to the man's defense, why not tell us about the man's great character, integrity, etc... I don't think someone can or should be considered a valuable member of anything just because he has a product that is in demand and his actions provide us with the inspiration to not behave as poorly.
I'm not saying jax is bad. I don't know him. I won't ever consider doing business with him because 1) members that I have come to trust have spoken out against him, and 2) based on his track record I don't want to put myself in the position to be harassed.
I'm sure jax has his good points and if anyone cares to point them out I'm sure most will listen. Just don't say someone is good because their being bad makes us want to be better; therefore he is good. Logical fallacies suck.
-Al-
[Edited to say: Now I get it! (I'm sooo clueless sometimes.)]