Mixed Josh K - Out Knife & Money

When I ship an item insurance is purchased to protect ME from circumstances just like this.
 
The USPS does not act in good faith IME. More than once I have received priority packages and mail that required a signature by me.

The deliveries were made despite lacking my signature. The tracking information stated that the deliveries were left with me and signed for by me (specifically naming me).

I would love to see those signatures, and I wonder how I would contest the “word” of the mail carrier.
 
Some potential issues but no intentional fraud on either side.

Buyer paid for an item Not delivered. Seller chose to self insure and lost on this package.

The Seller should of filed an Insurance claim by now. If nothing else the PO would probably look for the item if they're held liable on a claim.

Unless I'm self insuring anything over $200 goes to the Post Office and is personally shipped. This adds the opportunity for the Address to be Verified.
 
Just my Opinion-While if no recovery is made or insurance paid(do to lack of it), I think a split would be reasonable. Incomplete address buyer, failure to buy insurance seller. I however wouldn't pay the seller a cent if he wasn't active in the recovery process and do all he can to recover the money from insurance(presuming it exists) or the package. Time for the OP to come out of his hole and work with the buyer as best he can. Buyer may have caused the initial problem, USPS followed, but it is the seller who is now hindering getting this to a conclusion(not providing his address for search,filing claim and lack of communication)
If buyer and seller work together this has a decent chance of being solved
 
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The tracking# that was provided in an early post shows that it was shipped Priority Mail (insured). So he has a minimum of $50 coming if it was lost. The loss I suggested they split would be the difference between the insured value and the sale price.
 
stonesell said:
The seller, for not properly insuring the item, and assuming the risk of loss, then the buyer, for causing the adddress confusion, and also the post office, for completely losing the package.
Although it would be good, if we knew for certain about the insurance.
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In the Original Post, the seller's USPS link shows the package was insured. We don't know the full amount, but he did buy insurance beyond the PM base $50 (or it would say "$50 insurance" on the linked product information).

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Sure, the buyer erred with the incomplete address, but that was a fixable problem. Redlivery attempts failed, then USPS failed to return item to sender. USPS lost the package; seller's participation by providing the originating address on the package will facilitate potential recovery.

If it is not recovered, seller should pursue the insurance claim, which he notes he filed in the OP.

If it is recovered, buyer should re-pay for the item, unless the two parties want the deal to be completely reversed.

The buyer's initial address error does not absolve the USPS for liability on the package insurance. They had a duty to return the item to the sender. (but they and the claim process can be a PITA..)

good luck
 
If OP is missing, because of personal issues, then I am sorry for your troubles and hope things work out for you. Otherwise, I never understand why people start one of these threads, and then disappear, especially when the subject of their ire, appears so willing to own their mistakes, and seem willing to reach a positive resolution.

Given all the provided details from both sides, IMHO, a fair conclusion would be to work together, and have the OP actively go through the steps necessary to conclude the search, file the claim, etc. At some point, if this doesn’t end with the package materializing, then both should spilt the loss.

As the buyer, if the OP doesn’t reopen communication, then do nothing until such time as the OP stops going dark. I wish you both the best.
 
braillediver said:
I think that indicates the "Features" of Priority Mail not that additional Services were bought.
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No, that is incorrect.

The Product information refers to the specific package, and the options paid for by the sender.

For example, with these four packages below, which have been delivered, different options were purchased.
In addition to the shown info, when signature confirmation is selected, the right side of the field will also show the details about the signature after the delivery is complete (not shown in my example, due to personal info).

PM has two flat levels of insurance of $50 and $100; for insurance above that amt, the product info will just say "insured."

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Thus we know that the seller paid for insurance above $100, but we don't know the actual amount.
 
I've sent Ed an email. I understand if he's unwilling to put more time and energy into this but it should not be held against him in any way. Like I said earlier:

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And to be more clear, I in no way believe Ed is at fault.
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So File the Claim and be done with it. Why is there still a discussion on this?

The Post office is at fault and they have proof via the Tracking. Seems like an easy payout and the claim should of been filed as soon as possible.
 
braillediver said:
So File the Claim and be done with it. Why is there still a discussion on this?

The Post office is at fault and they have proof via the Tracking. Seems like an easy payout and the claim should of been filed as soon as possible.
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Seconded on this. The op has the opportunity to be made whole via insurance apparently. He should do that.
 
Josh K said:
I've sent Ed an email. I understand if he's unwilling to put more time and energy into this but it should not be held against him in any way. Like I said earlier:
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Ed is probably a bit peeved, about the negative feedback getting removed, and perhaps feeling somewhat shy, since the moderators did not agree with him on that issue. This may be why he chooses to remain silent, and not update the thread, regarding his insurance claim.
 
stonesell said:
Ed is probably a bit peeved, about the negative feedback getting removed, and perhaps feeling somewhat shy, since the moderators did not agree with him on that issue. This may be why he chooses to remain silent, and not update the thread, regarding his insurance claim.
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I have no idea why the OP is remaining silent. It is certainly his right to do so.

Speaking only for myself, I know that bringing a disagreement to GBU runs the risk that what I think may not synch with what the group thinks. I personally would not bring an issue to GBU and then go dark, unless there was a good reason, which in this case, there may or may not be. At this point, it’s a dead issue, until the OP resuscitates it,
 
cigarrodog said:
I have no idea why the OP is remaining silent. It is certainly his right to do so.

Speaking only for myself, I know that bringing a disagreement to GBU runs the risk that what I think may not synch with what the group thinks. I personally would not bring an issue to GBU and then go dark, unless there was a good reason, which in this case, there may or may not be. At this point, it’s a dead issue, until the OP resuscitates it,
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Those of us following the thread, would just like to see Ed get back his knife or his money. Everyone can emphathize with his loss, and we hope for a swift resolution.
 
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USPS Tracking is often fiction and, therefore, cannot be relied upon to make decisions.
Purchased item from guy in N. Carolina.
I am just east of Cleveland, OH
HE says he shipped it, adressed to me.
Tracking says shipped from N. Carolina to Olympia, Washington.
Arrived in my mail box.
USPS tracking only entry after in transit to Olympia, is "delivered." :rolleyes:
 
stonesell said:
Those of us following the thread, would just like to see Ed get back his knife or his money. Everyone can emphathize with his loss, and we hope for a swift resolution.
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Sure, but if he didn't get insurance or isn't pursuing his insurance claim if he did purchase it then there's very little that can be done for him.
 
I have no idea if the OP is even reading this thread(has restricted profile), but it might be a good idea to close this thread if he doesn't want to participate anymore(with or without final comments). Hopefully he has filed an insurance claim and will be made whole or the package shows up at either end. If he has decided filing the claim to be too much trouble, then he might as well save money in the future and not even purchase it.
 
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