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Sand-covered rope can be considered pretty damn hard. I can actually see the point given that my 583-1 in M390 gets blunted and chipped from cutting onion roots that come with free dirt. I'm honestly not sure whether wear resistance or toughness factors more into cutting stuff with sand and dirt in it, but I'd preferably want CPM-3V for it.
Cross-steel comparisons, no. Same steel? It's usually the case.
Some people have differing standards on what "sharp" is.
Going to have to agree that S30V would get more cuts, provided both knives are HT properly. CRK S30V at Rc 57 might not do so well if the 1095 is Rc 59+. Though I believe testers have revealed that the performance difference really isn't too drastic to the tune of cutting twice as much. Maybe a more modest 10-20% improvement.
Some people like the classics, and I hold no grudge against them, because it's all the more BM 943-1's in S90V for me(also an oldie but goldie).
And realistically speaking, nobody is going to die because their knife couldn't cut it. Or at least, I have yet to hear stories about male corpses found on a mountain with a blunt knife clutched in his hand, dead because he couldn't chop himself some firewood. I think most of us are careful enough to have a second knife with us.
I would also prefer 3v to 1095.
I was referring to cross-steel, as that is what he was referring to. But even same steel, not always the case.
I totally get that people have different perceptions on what sharp is. But that doesn't mean I won't LOL at them. I mean, cutting hardened fiberglass with 8cr and thinking it's still pretty sharp? Come on.
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If you guys won't believe me, believe Ankerson. If you have optimized sharpening equipment for your steels, the difference in sharpening between supersteels and non-supersteels is negligible. If you don't have optimized sharpening equipment, then of course you'll think 8cr and H1 are the end all be all. But if you don't have optimized sharpening equipment, I won't take you seriously on a topic like this. So there goes that theory of sharpening as the reason for low end steels over high end.
Now that that's said, whatever task you are doing there will always be a supersteel that performs better at it. 3v is tougher (and stronger) than H1. M390 is more wear resistant than 8cr. If for some reason you refuse to advance with the times and use the wonderful supersteels we have available to us today, that doesn't make your low end steels any better or more effective. It also doesn't make your uses any "harder".
Why would you not use K390 to cut that sandy rope? Ankerson has already explained that with optimized sharpening equipment, sharpening is a non-factor. I promise you that K390 would have performed so much better than 1095 in that role. The only other reason that I can think of that you might say is cost. But cost and your sharpening equipment (and skill) have nothing to do with the performance of an optimized steel (HT, geometry, edge, etc.). No matter which way you look at it, there will always be a supersteel that outperforms your old "crap" steels when both are optimized for the job. Now, do these crap steels still have a place today? To me, no. To you? Maybe. But don't try and say that these low end steels are somehow better or more effective, because they are not.
I'll repeat this again, because it's a big point I hear a lot. Sharpening. Refer to what Ankerson said at the top of page 6. If you do not have optimized sharpening equipment and would prefer to use a file and a belt, that does not mean your low end crap steel performs better. It just means you do not have the means to utilize a supersteel.
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