Perhaps YOU can come up with the perfect lock design.
Get your name right up there with Michael Walker. Or maybe even compete with the Reeve's Integral Lock.
it aint the axis lock with omega spring.
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Just finished a spine whack test on my Buck Select.
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it aint the axis lock with omega spring.
the buck select failed the test so you are right it is a fail.
Okay... now everybody that has these terrible knives that fail the spine whack test, send them to me and I will take them with me to the river with my whacked spine
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Okay... now everybody that has these terrible knives that fail the spine whack test, send them to me and I will take them with me to the river with my whacked spine
Somehow I've managed too keep all my fingers even after using these faulty knives for so long. I think I'll keep them.
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Why do you need a Spine Whack test to test the "Purpose" of the lock.
The purpose of the lock is to hold the knife in the open position so it doesn't close on your fingers during "normal" use, whether it be heavy, moderate, or light use.
Chances are if you are using the knife how it's intended to be used("normal" use) the lock likely isn't going to fail.
Since when is whacking the spine of the blade to see if the lock will fail "Normal" use?
It's truly a pointless test and probably only weakens a lock that was otherwise plenty strong for it's intended purpose.
I've used knives hard and never had a lock fail. I've used knives with no lock hard and never had any problems. Had I gone around smacking the heck out of the spine on things, I probably would have lost a finger or two by now.
The point is, use your knife as a knife, you'll be fine. Chances of the spine hitting something and the lock failing are slim to none.
Also, even "Hard Use" folders were not made to chop through wood. That's why we have axes, hawks, and thick outdoors survival type fixed blades.
Your folder is meant to assist you in tasks you need done that aren't beyond what it's intended purposes are.
The purpose of the lock is to hold the knife in the open position so it doesn't close on your fingers during "normal" use, whether it be heavy, moderate, or light use.
Chances are if you are using the knife how it's intended to be used("normal" use) the lock likely isn't going to fail.
Since when is whacking the spine of the blade to see if the lock will fail "Normal" use?
It's truly a pointless test and probably only weakens a lock that was otherwise plenty strong for it's intended purpose.
I've used knives hard and never had a lock fail. I've used knives with no lock hard and never had any problems. Had I gone around smacking the heck out of the spine on things, I probably would have lost a finger or two by now.
The point is, use your knife as a knife, you'll be fine. Chances of the spine hitting something and the lock failing are slim to none.
Also, even "Hard Use" folders were not made to chop through wood. That's why we have axes, hawks, and thick outdoors survival type fixed blades.
Your folder is meant to assist you in tasks you need done that aren't beyond what it's intended purposes are.
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My guess is about as long ago as the first YouTube knife review.
Or when people started to replicate those goofy Cold Steel videos.
Perhaps a shock absorber or vibration damper can be installed so even Doctor Who's sonic screwdriver can't make these pesky evil Walker locks fail.... All kidding aside,trusting a lock on a knife while performing extra hard use tasks starts to approach the level of trusting the safety on a gun--not a good idea.
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I hate to bring it up to someone that claims to use her(?) knives hard: Nobody whacks the "spine" of a knife in such test.
...Here is another expert in chances and probabilities that can determine exactly how should one use a knife...
It's a harmless "test" for a knife, the problem is that top dollar knives sometimes are failing it and cheap knives often pass it.
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Oh no you didn't :foot:I hate to bring it up to someone that claims to use her(?) knives hard: Nobody whacks the "spine" of a knife in such test.
...Here is another expert in chances and probabilities that can determine exactly how should one use a knife...
It's a harmless "test" for a knife, the problem is that top dollar knives sometimes are failing it and cheap knives often pass it.
I hate to bring it up to someone that claims to use her(?) knives hard: Nobody whacks the "spine" of a knife in such test.
...Here is another expert in chances and probabilities that can determine exactly how should one use a knife...
It's a harmless "test" for a knife, the problem is that top dollar knives sometimes are failing it and cheap knives often pass it.
It seems that you are taking this very personal. I am sure that it can be argued either way by either side as to the validity of this type of testing, but it seems that you are making this a personal thing. Why is that? The person that started this thread, and did the testing to his own knife hasn't had as much to say on this as you have. What gives?
Check out this photo of two exposed lockbacks that STR posted in another thread. My guess is that a light spine whack would expose the poor fit of the bottom lock.
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62286&d=1162908199
http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=62286&d=1162908199
I hate to bring it up to someone that claims to use her(?) knives hard: Nobody whacks the "spine" of a knife in such test.
...Here is another expert in chances and probabilities that can determine exactly how should one use a knife...
It's a harmless "test" for a knife, the problem is that top dollar knives sometimes are failing it and cheap knives often pass it.
Who ever said nobody whacks the spine of a knife as a test? Of course they do. It's just that the test is worthless. It says nothing.
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I hate to bring it up to someone that claims to use her(?) knives hard: Nobody whacks the "spine" of a knife in such test.
...Here is another expert in chances and probabilities that can determine exactly how should one use a knife...
It's a harmless "test" for a knife, the problem is that top dollar knives sometimes are failing it and cheap knives often pass it.
How one should use a folding knife is by drawing the sharp edge through things that need to be cut or by pushing the tip into things that need to be pierced and/or cut. That doesn't take expertise, that's common sense.
A liner locking knife if MADE CORRECTLY will fail open so it does not close. If it closes for what ever reason other than folding blade in to the frame and putting it back in your pocket/pouch it is made INCORRECTLY! How do you folks not get that? keepem sharp
PS I feel much better now, thanks
PS I feel much better now, thanks
so what does that say about the buck select knife?
It isn't made correctly. Period. I've had a few very early BM's that would do this most notable the early versions of the CQC7, and AFCK. My Rijbak will do this where the liners creeps a wee bit towards the locking side. Maybe a few others. So there ya go. keepem sharp
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