Just received my PM2 today...It's not sharp....at all.

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Hairlesstwinkie said:
Any and every knife owner should know how to sharpen his/her own knife. It's like owning a car and know how to drive. If a knife come dull then sharpen it. If it doesn't take and edge then it's a manufacture defect so send it back.
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I absolutely agree. I'm pretty new to knives. I've already created a few threads asking about sharpening kits for noobs. I'll be buying a Sharpmaker soon to learn on.
 
Hey man, I'm certainly no expert, but that looks like the factory edge to me. Maybe you just got one that didnt come super sharp. If it was me, and I had a brand new knife, I would hate to ship it off right after I got it! So, just sharpen the thing. Done! If you don't have a sharpener yet, turn a coffee cup upside down. You can get that blade shaving sharp on a coffee mug! Seriously...you'll be surprised.

And yeah, certain people (to remain nameless) came down WAY too hard on you for asking about this. I don't think there's anything wrong with questioning that, but now just get over it and sharpen the knife. It's kind of like you just bought a new car and you discovered the gas tank is empty and you're asking if you should ship it back to the factory. ;-). I think most folks are going to tell u to fill her up and go for a ride!

P.S. At the risk of adding to big mikes "life lessons" you might want to thank the owner of the company for personally responding and telling you he'd fill the tank up for you. Hehehe

Enjoy your new knife! :-).
 
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People needing to learn how to sharpen isn't the issue. It's irrelevant. It has nothing to do with a knife arriving dull. A knife arriving dull is the result of the manufacturer failing to sharpen it in some way (step(s) along the way were missed or not fully completed). I own several Spyderco knives and they all arrived at least or better than what I consider "acceptably sharp". The bevels were even and the blades cut paper and/or shaved. That's more than sufficient for a factory edge and if a manufacturer sends out the vast majority or almost all of their knives that sharp then imho they're doing a great job.

The OP made an observation. The knife he received was dull. That is not "bitching". That is making an observation, just like saying "this table is made of wood". It's an observation. A statement. It is not inherently a complaint, but people can interpret it as being a complaint, which is, of course, reading emotions into a statement that does not necessarily contain said emotions. The answer is that no, this is not typical. The company owner wants to inspect the knife to learn more about what happened, which could reveal that a step was missed, a bevel wasn't set correctly, or perhaps the sharpener didn't fully apex the edge, etc etc. By allowing Mr. Glesser to inspect the knife he can determine what went wrong (if anything) and see about fixing any issues (if any exist).

This isn't a slam against Spyderco. It's an anomaly. That people will argue and say "the knife must be used" is a testament to how often you can expect to get a dull Spyderco knife out of the box. So rest assured, it's most likely an anomaly, but either way the OP is going to get fixed up so it's all good.
 
All right, guys; let's all take a deep breath and quit the mud slinging and debate over the OPs intentions. He stated his issue, asked for advice, and received a personal reply and solution from the man himself.

Regardless of whatever happened with the knife, I think the thing to take away from this is another testament to Spyderco's impeccable commitment to customer service and interaction.

Will
 
Maprik said:
Instead of spending $20 shipping the knife to Spyderco for sharpening just get the Sharpmaker and learn to sharpen that knife yourself. Money well spent and that's a great knife.
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What Maprik said, +1
 
FCM415 said:
Simply because they came dull? If that's the only reason, I would just sharpen it myself.

I never received a dull Spyderco and if I did, I'd sharpen it. Actually I sharpen them anyway, so it's a non issue for me.
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I own many Spydercos and I know how to sharpen. The para 2 is the only one I had problems with. The first wasn't sharp and had a bad dent and was replaced by the dealer. Second one was about as sharp as a butter knife. It's quite a let down. I like spyderco and their customer service is good ,but i was very unhappy with para2 problems. I know many people like this knife but it does have problems. I think they are getting cranked out to fast. What I hate is when someone brings up a flaw or asks a question, a linch mob is formed.
 
Surfingringo said:
Hey man, I'm certainly no expert, but that looks like the factory edge to me. Maybe you just got one that didnt come super sharp. If it was me, and I had a brand new knife, I would hate to ship it off right after I got it! So, just sharpen the thing. Done! If you don't have a sharpener yet, turn a coffee cup upside down. You can get that blade shaving sharp on a coffee mug! Seriously...you'll be surprised.

And yeah, certain people (to remain nameless) came down WAY too hard on you for asking about this. I don't think there's anything wrong with questioning that, but now just get over it and sharpen the knife. It's kind of like you just bought a new car and you discovered the gas tank is empty and you're asking if you should ship it back to the factory. ;-). I think most folks are going to tell u to fill her up and go for a ride!

P.S. At the risk of adding to big mikes "life lessons" you might want to thank the owner of the company for personally responding and telling you he'd fill the tank up for you. Hehehe

Enjoy your new knife! :-).
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I already sent a personal email to him. Hopefully he got it. I can handle you telling me that! Accusing me of bad mouthing a company I have a lot of respect for, when I did nothing of the sort, is something I can't. That bothers me. I plan on starting my own business soon. I would never bad mouth a company for the sake of it especially if it was unwarranted. And just to reiterate, I plan on buying many more Spyderco's.
 
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Every Spyderco I've ever bought came sharp enough to take hair off my arm. However, I still wouldn't consider any of the edges I received "sharp enough". Until the edge has been honed up on higher grit stones and stropped, I don't call it sharp, so I suppose even if I got a Spyderco in the shape you got yours it wouldn't be a big deal because I'd have to sharpen it anyway.
 
galactorrhea said:
All right, guys; let's all take a deep breath and quit the mud slinging and debate over the OPs intentions. He stated his issue, asked for advice, and received a personal reply and solution from the man himself.

Regardless of whatever happened with the knife, I think the thing to take away from this is another testament to Spyderco's impeccable commitment to customer service and interaction.

Will
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Honestly, I'm blown away by the customer service from Spyderco and the seller. I've bought a lot of things and never experienced such professionalism and customer service. I say that without an ounce of exaggeration too. This was never as big of a deal as it was made out to be in this thread. I don't mind sending it out and was offered reimbursement by the seller for having to ship it out which I declined. These things happen. I just wanted to know what was up. I had heard how sharp their knives came and when I got it I was confused. Maybe my research was crap. I came here to ask. I got more than I expected.
 
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I respectfully disagree with the it's like buying a new car and expecting it to have a full tank of gas statement. It's a knife it's designed to cut. So it would be more like buying a new car and having to put an engine in it. The OP has every right to be unhappy with the product. Just because some one doesn't feel the same way you do doesn't warrant an open season of insults on them. Some times lemons come out it happens.
 
I think it's maybe more like buying a new car and having to put air in the tires. You'll figure it out Mr. NicS!!

I never expect a knife to arrive with any level of sharpness, if it does great, if it doesn't great - sharpen it up! I cut so much stuff I'm going to have to sharpen it sooner then later anyways.

Nic S. said:
I respectfully disagree with the it's like buying a new car and expecting it to have a full tank of gas statement. It's a knife it's designed to cut. So it would be more like buying a new car and having to put an engine in it. The OP has every right to be unhappy with the product. Just because some one doesn't feel the same way you do doesn't warrant an open season of insults on them. Some times lemons come out it happens.
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ginsuguru said:
I think it's maybe more like buying a new car and having to put air in the tires. You'll figure it out Mr. NicS!!

I never expect a knife to arrive with any level of sharpness, if it does great, if it doesn't great - sharpen it up! I cut so much stuff I'm going to have to sharpen it sooner then later anyways.
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Haha, you may be right. Actually my first thought was to use the idea of the tires being low on air. That might have been better.

The no gas in the tank might not be the most accurate analogy, but I believe "no engine in the car" might be a bit extreme. That would be like if the knife arrived with no blade! Whatever, like the op said, he's already gotten way more info than he expected (or wanted I'm sure), and everything seems to be cool so I'll leave this one alone.

OP- Enjoy your knife bro. You really should try the coffee cup trick. I saw your threads yesterday on the maintenance forum. I was asking the same questions a couple of months ago. I went with dmt diafold and have been sharpening freehand with great success, but while I was waiting for it to arrive, I started sharpening on a coffee mug and was pretty amazed at the results I was able to achieve. Just something to play with until u get your sharpmaker. Good luck!
 
Nic S. said:
I respectfully disagree with the it's like buying a new car and expecting it to have a full tank of gas statement. It's a knife it's designed to cut. So it would be more like buying a new car and having to put an engine in it. The OP has every right to be unhappy with the product. Just because some one doesn't feel the same way you do doesn't warrant an open season of insults on them. Some times lemons come out it happens.
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Yeah man, I can see where you are coming from, but I hope you aren't reading any insult in my response to him, because there wasn't any intended, and I dont think the op got it that way.
 
Once again, Mr. Glesser's shiny footprints shine on a path where the footprints are not all as bright.

best

mqqn
 
Nic S. said:
I respectfully disagree with the it's like buying a new car and expecting it to have a full tank of gas statement. It's a knife it's designed to cut. So it would be more like buying a new car and having to put an engine in it. The OP has every right to be unhappy with the product. Just because some one doesn't feel the same way you do doesn't warrant an open season of insults on them. Some times lemons come out it happens.
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no, the gas statement is perfectly right. if you drive a car, it runs out of gas, and you must fill it up. if you use a knife it gets dull, and you must sharpen it. not even close to an engine swap.

if you buy a car and it stalls because it had no gas a block away from the dealership, it sucks, but its not enough to form an opinion on the manufacturer or the dealer IMO. and certainly not enough to imply it's a faulty product (which the op was not doing, he didn't seem to be complaining or pointing fingers at all)

I understand where he is coming from, took me awhile to learn to sharpen and it would have seemed like a huge deal back then, but now it's easy to get on your high horse and make fun because he doesn't know how to fill up his tank.

Gotta step back to your first knife days to empathize with him, but on the other hand it's not even remotely a lemon.
 
Please not let this one instance deter you from buying other spydercos.

They're great knives from a great company. You cant go wrong.
 
I can't imagine anyone would buy a knife and not (sooner or later) learn how to sharpen. I'm not suggesting that a new knife has any reason whatsoever to arrive dull, just that sooner or later it will become dull from daily use.

You then have several options: 1 - Sell or trade it, 2 - Send it back for sharpening, 3 - Learn to sharpen it yourself

Unless you are quite wealthy, option 3 is usually the one many people choose.
 
nuckingfuts said:
Please not let this one instance deter you from buying other spydercos.

They're great knives from a great company. You cant go wrong.
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Oh it won't. I've mentioned in here a few times that I plan on buying more. An endura 4 is in my near future.
 
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