Ken Onion joined forces with CRKT

Gosh guys , I didn't mean to kill this thread...

Ken, you couldn't possibly kill any thread you participate in.:p

I have one in my hand. Really. It's awesome.

Some of the new Kershaws coming out are awesome too. I don't have any of these in my hand. Yet.

All jobs well done from my perspective. There's only so much Onion to go around!
 
Okay. So when I got back from the NYCKS today I saw that I had a package in the mail. This new CRKT Ripple is what was in the package. I purchased one of the black handle models. First off, I have to say that I really like Ken Onion's work and I love every single knife that he developed with Kershaw. His designs have always been eye catching to me as well as highly functional. That being said, let's talk about the CRKT Ripple.

Let's go over some positives of this knife.

When I opened the box and took out the knife I couldn't believe how thin it was. Everything is thin. The blade, the scales, even the clip. It's very light in the hand and the ergos are fantastic. The hand just molds to the handle shape. The IKBS system work like a charm making for super smooth and fast opening with light finger pressure. Upon opening, the blade locks up nice and tight with literally no blade play. The wavy horizontal lines make for a great grip. The blade shape is quite useful and the satin finish is very nice.

And now for the negatives.

The fit and finish is what you have come to expect from CRKT, which on a $100 knife upsets me a little. CRKT should have put a little extra effort into making the finish on this knife much more refined. While the wavy horizontal lines are nice, the two vertical lines that run the length of the handle are actually sharp and should be rounded off more. The jimping on the flipper is way too sharp and hurts your index finger after very little time. The jimping on the clip is completely unnecessary and actually hinders the knife from sliding into and out of the pocket a bit.

There are two negative things about this knife that have displeased me greatly.

First is that because the scales are so thin the framelock is a little flimsy. It doesn't seem that the lock will fail with normal use, but I believe the lock needs a stablizer of some sort. It is entirely too easy to over extend the lock in the opposite direction. You have to be very careful when disengaging the lock or you will over extend it and your lock is screwed. The second this is that the factory edge was completely horrible. I mean I have never seen a factory edge like this. Small barbs hanging from the edge and not even close to sharp in between those small barbs. The blade edge was an utter disgrace. Luckily, the Accuto steel is very easy to sharpen. I had to go at with diamond rods, medium stones, fine stones, and then a strop. After about 30 minutes I was happy with the edge. It got hair poppin sharp and is more than acceptable now.

Overall I'm happy with the knife, but feel that it should be more in the $75 range. If CRKT is going to do justice to Ken Onion's designs they really need to step up their game as far as fit and finish as well as QC. I would recommend this knife to anyone who digs Ken's designs and wants to get their hands on their first IKBS knife. Just don't expect that CRKT has changed overnight because of the collaboration with Ken Onion. They still have alot of work to do.
 

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Thanks for the review. Very helpful. Can you post a picture of the lockup next to some other popular folder. Would like to see how thin it is.
 
No problem guys. I didn't see anyone else posting one. I figured I'd do it. Hope it helps all who are interested in purchasing this knife. I'd get a picture of the lockup next to a Sebbie or something right now, but my girl is asleep and I don't want to go rustling throught knife drawers. I will however post a pic of the lockup on it's own right now. Give me a moment.
 
Here ya go. As you can see, the lockbar is about as thick as the blade tang itself. This makes the lockbar fall 100% under the tang of the blade. I don't necessarily see this as a bad thing on this knife as there is no play to the blade, but there isn't much room for wear at all that's for sure. You should also be able to get a good look at the ball bearings that make up the IKBS system inside.
 

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Don't think this grooved area on the lock bar will be a problem, but how much metal is left there?

Update: I see it right now on your picture above. Don't think there is anything to worry about.

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I don't think that groove will cause a problem. In the first picture of the lockup you can see that grooved area is the first dip in the lockbar. From the side it looks as though that area would be way thinner than the rest of the lockbar, but it isn't. I'm more concerned with the overall thinness of the lockbar itself.
 
Thanks for the review Tony, good to see you man. I cringed pretty bad when I saw your comments about the fit and finish on this guy since I keep wanting to like CRKT's but they keep falling short. It has always amazing me utterly that Kershaw can make such fine pieces out of quality materials at such a low price point. They are usually lumped in with BM and Spydie, and rightfully so, but the average knife price point is not the same. CRKT seem to want to be in that club too as opposed to, say, the Gerber club (no offence to any Gerber lovers here; my first knife was a Gerber and I will always have a soft spot for the name), but every time I give in and buy one I end up disappointed. (**note: I felt a rant coming on but took heed of the most excellent Kershawguy's advice and stuffed it**). Well, I'll be keeping an eye on CRKT since Ken is willing to have a go with them. However, CRKT, if you are out there, for sake of all us knifenuts and at the expense of your bottom line, please take extra care to make the knives really well out of premium materials and without raising your prices. And get rid of the Lawks mechanisms.... Thank you! :D :thumbup::thumbup:
 
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It seems that it is realy "uncaged" ball bearing. So reassembling this knife would give you lots of "fun" placing the balls back where they belong :)

I wonder if such bearing is able to transfer more force than washers.
 
I received mine three days ago. I've been using it moderately, opened it a few times and I have to say that it is a very well put together knife. The design is perfect (IMHO this is one of Ken's best designs :thumbup:), I personally like the texturing on the scales, I appreciate the use of stainless steel over titanium, initial impressions of the blade steel seem good, grinds are perfect, IKBS is amazing (it really is that damn good, this knife is incredibly easy to flip, much less friction than any washer and absolutely no side to side blade play) .... but I do have one negative:

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The lockbar is all the way across to the other side already, it's supposed to engage only by a slight amount on the left side of the tang so when it finally settles there's plenty of space left to take out any slack in the lockup. You would think that CRKT would QC their knives by having the Production Manager edc one for at least a week before they made a bunch of them? :confused:

I see it as perfect in every way, except for the lockup. It won't close on you .... I've spine whacked it gently (after the lock bar was already on the other side), but if the lock up were done right, it would be the ideal/ perfect gent's knife.

(As for the strength of the lock bar, it's more than adequate for all intents and purposes of this knife -especially being made from stainless steel).

Since this is just the first production, hopefully CRKT will get hear these constructive comments and correct this one thing. :thumbup:
 
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This is the first CRKT I've had the urge to buy in quite a long time.
I hope they manage to get the lock up sorted out ASAP.
Would love to hear more impressions of the blade steel.
 
I have a question for Kershaw: Since parting ways with Ken, will any projects with his influence be put on the back burner? The reason I am asking is, will there be more sprint runs, for example, an S110v leek? I don't post much, but I read everything on this site, and the leek is my favorite knife....
 
Well, I'll be keeping an eye on CRKT since Ken is willing to have a go with them. However, CRKT, if you are out there, for sake of all us knifenuts and at the expense of your bottom line, please take extra care to make the knives really well out of premium materials and without raising your prices. And get rid of the Lawks mechanisms.... Thank you! :D :thumbup::thumbup:

I'm with you on all counts.

An amusing anecdote: I was recently chatting away with a knife dealer at a gun show here and he has started carrying the CRKT knife line along with some of his others. Some of the CRKT knives were quite well built and looked great. I had purchased a Drifter from him a few months ago, and after reprofiling the edge have found it to be a very handy and very, very sturdy knife.

We were chatting away and he was trying to get me to buy a knife with the Auto Lawks system. I couldn't get it to work right. I am used to my Kershaws and Benchmades, so the feel was wrong as well as the accessibility. I goofed with it for a while and told him it was a "no go".

The was teasing me, and laughed and told me how easy it was to operate and how he didn't have any problems with it. While demonstrating he had "no problems with the AL" he sliced the devil out of his finger and bled like hell.

How embarrassing. He did exactly what I thought I would do if using the AL system.

Robert
 
Jimping and a rough edge on he blade, this is why I love my Spyderco ceramics. Take a fine ceramic rod or stone and gently buff the rough portion. It will smooth it just enough to eliminate the problem, without scarring the metal.

I've done this on thumb studs and on laser cut blade backs successfully also.
 
I have to say judging by the pictures, the polish looks a little weak around the flipper. Maybe I'm biased the PC/KO colab. has an amazing polish on CPM154.
 
It's disappointing that the F&F is poor. The design had potential too, but unfortunately, I'm not one to spend $100 on a knife with poor F&F, even though IKBS is probably awesome.
CRKT, it's about time that you guys need...
A) QC, have some please, if other companies can produce the same F&F in foreign countries as we can in America, so can you. Take a hint.
B) Make a decision between being the next Gerber or stepping up to the plate. Ken Onion is a living legend. Do him justice, you will fall by the wayside just like Gerber if you can't step up and make a presence in the market. We want quality! The means materials also.

Sorry for the rant but CRKT can't afford to drop the ball if they are going to try new things like IKBS. If you are going to do something, do it right. You've halfassed too many products and I would love to try a KO product from you guys, but you won't see a penny of my business if you are still intent on halfassing good concepts.

Nothing against KO or anyone, I don't want a flame war. I just want CRKT to get their act together now that they have some potential with KO. I had no interest in their ubiquitous "M##" variation with LAWKS before, but now they have my attention. Keep it, don't piss it away.

Hopefully someone at CRKT reads this.
 
Okay. So when I got back from the NYCKS today I saw that I had a package in the mail. This new CRKT Ripple is what was in the package. I purchased one of the black handle models. First off, I have to say that I really like Ken Onion's work and I love every single knife that he developed with Kershaw. His designs have always been eye catching to me as well as highly functional. That being said, let's talk about the CRKT Ripple.

Let's go over some positives of this knife.

When I opened the box and took out the knife I couldn't believe how thin it was. Everything is thin. The blade, the scales, even the clip. It's very light in the hand and the ergos are fantastic. The hand just molds to the handle shape. The IKBS system work like a charm making for super smooth and fast opening with light finger pressure. Upon opening, the blade locks up nice and tight with literally no blade play. The wavy horizontal lines make for a great grip. The blade shape is quite useful and the satin finish is very nice.

And now for the negatives.

The fit and finish is what you have come to expect from CRKT, which on a $100 knife upsets me a little. CRKT should have put a little extra effort into making the finish on this knife much more refined. While the wavy horizontal lines are nice, the two vertical lines that run the length of the handle are actually sharp and should be rounded off more. The jimping on the flipper is way too sharp and hurts your index finger after very little time. The jimping on the clip is completely unnecessary and actually hinders the knife from sliding into and out of the pocket a bit.

There are two negative things about this knife that have displeased me greatly.

First is that because the scales are so thin the framelock is a little flimsy. It doesn't seem that the lock will fail with normal use, but I believe the lock needs a stablizer of some sort. It is entirely too easy to over extend the lock in the opposite direction. You have to be very careful when disengaging the lock or you will over extend it and your lock is screwed. The second this is that the factory edge was completely horrible. I mean I have never seen a factory edge like this. Small barbs hanging from the edge and not even close to sharp in between those small barbs. The blade edge was an utter disgrace. Luckily, the Accuto steel is very easy to sharpen. I had to go at with diamond rods, medium stones, fine stones, and then a strop. After about 30 minutes I was happy with the edge. It got hair poppin sharp and is more than acceptable now.

Overall I'm happy with the knife, but feel that it should be more in the $75 range. If CRKT is going to do justice to Ken Onion's designs they really need to step up their game as far as fit and finish as well as QC. I would recommend this knife to anyone who digs Ken's designs and wants to get their hands on their first IKBS knife. Just don't expect that CRKT has changed overnight because of the collaboration with Ken Onion. They still have alot of work to do.



Thank you for your comments . I am keeping tabs on this thread and want to know your thoughts . I went through several knives at CRKT and they were nice. The locks were perfect , that is not what I see here . I recommend sending it back if you are not happy with it and make sure they send you one that is perfect. I will be making a special trip to Taiwan next week and will make sure they understand how important it is to get it right. I am also working with them on purchasing a new sharpening system to make sure these knives are hair popping out of the box. This is a work in progress and I am confident we will get it right . As I said , if it ain't right , send it back . Otherwise I/ we won't know . I will also try to go through there current batch while over there and check there quality control. If it ain't right I will throw a fit and shut down mfgr until it is right. I have already addressed the sharp edges issue and thought it was solved . maybe there are a few strays.
I promise I will be all over this and Doug and Rod have also given me there word that it will be right or they won't sell it . Maybe this is a case of a few bad apples ,and I hope thats all it is.
You have my word this will be resolved!!
 
I have a question for Kershaw: Since parting ways with Ken, will any projects with his influence be put on the back burner? The reason I am asking is, will there be more sprint runs, for example, an S110v leek? I don't post much, but I read everything on this site, and the leek is my favorite knife....

Kershaw is still making sprint runs of the Blur series. I think it's reasonable to hope for more.

Ken, thanks for your reassurances. This might just be my first CRKT model. Here's hoping you help get everything running smoothly.

Phillip
 
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