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How did you manage to get yours so soon?! I've been checking my e-mail hoping to find that long awaited e-mail from Kershawguy saying they're in. 
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Kershaw Tilt...again.
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I bottled up my rant for months. Looks like I should have waited just a few more days.
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LA, when you work at a production rate and and at the quality level that we do, scheduling priorities are essential in success. The product also has to be right prior to shipping. We try our best to please everyone, and if the timing is off on this one for you we apologize.
New materials and technology are a couple of reasons why the Tilt is not fully out yet LA. There's been a learning curve with the Tilt. Unexpected discoveries with the Tilt have brought on setbacks. It's been a fun, painful, eye-opening adventure LA.
To say we are undeserving of an award because you don't have one in your hand is...overstated.
I'm thinking I shouldn't walk these projects through with info and images anymore. The threads always go downhill when they reach the "when are they available, where's mine" portion.
New materials and technology are a couple of reasons why the Tilt is not fully out yet LA. There's been a learning curve with the Tilt. Unexpected discoveries with the Tilt have brought on setbacks. It's been a fun, painful, eye-opening adventure LA.
To say we are undeserving of an award because you don't have one in your hand is...overstated.
I'm thinking I shouldn't walk these projects through with info and images anymore. The threads always go downhill when they reach the "when are they available, where's mine" portion.
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Thomas, on behalf of the rest of us, please don't let a few impatient people stop you posting info that the rest of us appreciate a great deal.
Thanks,
Steve.
Thanks,
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Hi Thomas -
You should know better than anyone that there will be people sniveling about delivery dates no matter what you do.
There will be a few in any crowd. There is, however, a large majority of people here that are just patiently awaiting the arrival of their new Tilt.
I have been thinking that the good folks at Kershaw are just making sure this knife (the Tilt) is right before any leave the factory.
The fallout from a less than perfect knife going out the door is much worse than the little bit of sniveling from people waiting for their next toy.
I, for one, have enjoyed the posts showing the knife if various stages of construction, and it is nice to hear the updates occasionally.
Please don't let one or two people spoil this for the rest - one bad apple etc.
I sure hope to see similar posts from you when the triple-7 is being sorted out.
best regards -
mqqn
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How did you manage to get yours so soon?! I've been checking my e-mail hoping to find that long awaited e-mail from Kershawguy saying they're in.
It wasn't easy. At Blade this year I spotted Thomas walking with a couple Kershaw zipper pouches in his hand. Thomas is a pretty big guy so I enlisted the help of friend and the plan began to take shape. First.....my partner in crime distracted Thomas by throwing a bottle of fine Irish whiskey in to the air. As Thomas looked up I dove on to his back knocking him down...while stunned I got Thomas in a figure four leg lock (a submission move) and demanded the zipper pouches. Thomas simply replied..."Give me the whiskey and the pouches are yours." We said okay....opened the bottle....opened the pouches and stayed up until 3 a.m. drinking and playing with all the awesome new knives Kershaw is releasing this year. When are the release dates for these new knives? When your dealer tells you they are shipping....suck it up cupcakes.
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getting things right takes time, everyone should realize that. And people should be thankful that even while they wait they are lucky enough to have a company rep sharing photos of 'how its made'. Not everyone gets the opportunity to see what they're going to own being made, let alone talk with someone who is part of making it. Thomas, I wish for you less complaints and more appreciation, 'cause you've got my vote.
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Please let it be noted that I didn't tap to Johnny's dreaded figure 4.It wasn't easy. At Blade this year I spotted Thomas walking with a couple Kershaw zipper pouches in his hand. Thomas is a pretty big guy so I enlisted the help of friend and the plan began to shape. First.....my partner in crime distracted Thomas by throwing a bottle of fine Irish whiskey in to the air. As Thomas looked up I dove on to his back knocking him down...while stunned I got Thomas in a figure four leg lock (a submission move) and demanded the zipper pouches. Thomas simply replied..."Give me the whiskey and the pouches are yours." We said okay....opened the bottle....opened the pouches and stayed up until 3 a.m. drinking and playing with all the awesome new knives Kershaw is releasing this year. When are the release dates for these new knives? When your dealer tells you they are shipping....suck it up cupcakes.
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A huge +1 to what these guys said. Like I said in your "gone fishing" thread, Thomas, we all really appreciate everything you do here on the forums, not to mention KAI's commitment to quality and innovation.
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I'm with these guys, IF I stirred something by posting that it was August, I apologize as it was in jest. When I pre-ordered this knife I knew full well that it would be awhile before it would be in my hands. I appreciate you guys and all the hard work that you do !
I love the photos and seeing things halfway through production, but agree that giving release dates seems to cause trouble.
Instead of giving dates or time frames just say "later", "undetermined" or "when it's done" (and whatever you do, avoid saying "two weeks").
Instead of giving dates or time frames just say "later", "undetermined" or "when it's done" (and whatever you do, avoid saying "two weeks").
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It wasn't easy. At Blade this year I spotted Thomas walking with a couple Kershaw zipper pouches in his hand. Thomas is a pretty big guy so I enlisted the help of friend and the plan began to take shape. First.....my partner in crime distracted Thomas by throwing a bottle of fine Irish whiskey in to the air. As Thomas looked up I dove on to his back knocking him down...while stunned I got Thomas in a figure four leg lock (a submission move) and demanded the zipper pouches. Thomas simply replied..."Give me the whiskey and the pouches are yours." We said okay....opened the bottle....opened the pouches and stayed up until 3 a.m. drinking and playing with all the awesome new knives Kershaw is releasing this year. When are the release dates for these new knives? When your dealer tells you they are shipping....suck it up cupcakes.
Gotta say, this is easily one of the best posts on here haha.
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Sure, stuff happens. I wrote about that in my "rant" post.
I admit that I closed my post poorly. You took it as an insult, and what's more you took it as selfish on my part as if it's all about me not having my knife. Without a better explanation from me, I can't blame you. You didn't have much to go on, so it's OK that you got it wrong. Please let me rephrase.
The extended delay of this knife has exposed a VERY serious flaw in the Blade award system. I can't see how it's fair that you won a 2010 award for a knife that still isn't available. Fact is, this knife took the thunder away from OTHER knives that were deserving of recognition in 2010. You stole that from other manufacturers.
This is by no stretch of the imagination a 2010 knife. Other than you popped out a couple of prototypes under the deadline. I'm not saying that you broke rules. And I'm not saying that the knife isn't a great knife. I still look forward to owning it and using it.
I'm saying that maybe Blade needs to reconsider the rules of eligibility for particular categories. Movies require a theatrical release by a certain date to be eligible for an oscar for a certain year.
Imagine if a movie won a 2010 oscar but the public still hasn't seen the movie in the summer of 2011, and when they do finally see it, it has a different ending. It's just bizarre.
In the end, you won an award in the wrong year for a knife that is increasingly different from the prototype. That's what I'm saying.
I've spent thousands of dollars on ZT's, Shuns and Kershaws. I wish KAI nothing but the best of success and longevity. I'm jsut saying that the award system has a loophole that might need to be reconsidered.
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Actually I did find it curious that Blade gives awards to knives not even in production yet. Though I wonder if that's truly "unfair" given that there are various other knives from other manufacturers also shown that aren't in production(I believe the Spyderco Yojimbo and LionSpy comes to mind). Of course, I'm just guessing really. It's not like I got to attend:grumpy:.
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No I didn't
I'm feeling strongly that your understanding of stuff happening, and mine are worlds apart.
Stole that? There is intent implied with your statement, of which I'm confused with.
It is a 2010 knife. The Tilt was created, developed, and executed in 2010.
No knife that we debut at Blade is designed for delivery in 2010. Perhaps where we are disconnected here, is that we flaunt new knives at Blade for the dealers in attendance. This is a show that happens to have consumers attending, along with having an awards banquet attached to it.
Our primary goal at Blade is sales. We have large customers (dealers, not to be confused with consumers) that are in attendance. Typically, our products are shown and sold seasons in advance to these customers. Most larger customers purchasing in June 2010, are doing so for spring 2011, perhaps even further ahead. It’s just the way business is conducted. It’s the same procedure at the SHOT Show. Product debuts in January, and delivers for Holiday or beyond business.
I’m unsure if this translates, but it’s kinda the norm on how this all works.
Yea they just pop out like with a Pez dispenser.
Cool
One of the neat parts about Blade, is that there is anticipation as to what new, yet to be seen items everybody unveils at the show. It’s a bit secretive, and it’s a bit of a rush that everyone looks forward to. Consumers, dealers, and manufacturers alike.
To take that away would be bizarre.
In the end, the Tilt showed itself to be the beast that it is. It’s peers voted it the American Made Knife of the Year for 2010. No disrespect to the Overall winner, but I was stunned it wasn’t the Tilt.
As to the proto and production not being exact, you’re right they are different. Production is a different color. Sorry bout that.
Appreciate it!
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I appreciate you response and I apologize for any misunderstanding we may have had.
I very much look forward to owning and using the tilt.
I very much look forward to owning and using the tilt.
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...so THAT'S Kershaw's secret? Man, I've got to get into that factory sometime. I bet it's like Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory, but with knives instead of candy.
Seriously, though, there will always be negative people and negative feelings when it comes to a delayed product like the Tilt. The difference between a very short prototype run and a full production run is lost on many, as are the complexities of taking a new technology from design to testing to full implementation. A pocket knife can take just as much engineering work as a building, or a vehicle, or any other complex piece of equipment. It may be on a smaller scale, but it's just as much work to make a finished product that works as intended from the image in a designer's head.
The coating was, from all indications, a necessity to cover up problems with the finish on the blade. Tweaks to the (brand new) KVT bearing system were inevitable, considering there's nothing out there quite like it. In the meantime, people are complaining about the lack of already-introduced product, and with only so much production capacity, each tweak and change means the high-end limited run that will sell like hotcakes to us knife geeks no matter how long it takes to arrive gets put lower down the list than the bread-and-butter "high-value" knives that the big chains and sporting goods stores are running low on and needed in yesterday. It's prioritizing and just plain business.
Personally, while I'm getting a little impatient, not only have I not been on a pre-order as long as some of the others around here, but I don't mind waiting as long as it takes for a knife that's going to be as awesome as the Tilt.