Knives & Religion ... Don't Mix ??? -:(

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I've been considering making myself a new Mjolnir from stainless, but Ti would make a lot more sense. My mother would LOVE a cross from Ti, though. Could I get you to email me with who made them for you and what they charged?

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Oz

"Nonsense. I have not yet begun to defile myself."
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Para, you are doing a really fine job. I sincerely believe JKM would approve of your moderating.
As someone said, this has been played,replayed, and parlayed. How bout slapping one of those Paralocks on it and let's get back to knives!
 
Just one last thing, dammit!
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In my opinion, MR. PARACELSUS, you do a pretty dang good job! In any of my posts, I meant no disrespect to you, Mark, or anyone else, or to their beliefs.

I think you're an alright-kinda guy. I don't think you're a Christian-basher (I'm sure you glad to hear that from me ::WARNING! SARCASM! FACETIOUSNESS!!:: Hopefully I didn't come across as an ornery old codger again (like I apparently do often; you never did quite explain that the other day up at Timonium, Para
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Oh, and the first line above... I just had to do that!
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trying to never take myself too seriously, i remain....

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iktomi
 
Signature lines and thumbnails will never offend me unless VG starts inserting a thumbnail of Lorena in abbreviated dress. Now that's offensive.
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Para,
As, it has been said many times before, communications are tricky in this medium. Keep up the good work.
 
WARNING: SHAMELESS RECRUITING PITCH FOLLOWS

Paracelsus mentioned that he had suggested the Early Christianity forum to Mark as an area where he might wish to discuss his religion. Well, as Moderator for that Forum, may I extend an invitation to any who wish to come over to visit. The web address is as follows: http://wizardnet.com/cgi-bin/Ultimate.cgi and the only real rule is the Golden Rule: "Do unto others as you woould have them do unto you." The format is Universal Bulletin Board, so it is familiar, being just like this one. Do not fear that everyone is like me, they aren't, there is a devout Roman Catholic, a Missouri Synod Lutheran (very conservative), a Baptist, and one or two other more or less conservative Christian types as well as various folk who drop in and out. All are welcome.

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Walk in the Light,
Hugh Fuller
 
Damn Para once again your meddling! I wouldn't be insulted if VG put Lorena in his sig. Why I even think shes hot. I just can't figure out why she and VG are never in the same picture.
Bob
 
Are these the one's you are talking about Darrel?!!

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Edited: OKAY Spark, Mike, Para, or Someone .... time to LOCK THIS THREAD UP TIGHT AND SECURELY.

TitaniumKnutt -- Mark W. Douglas

[This message has been edited by TitaniumKnutt (edited 12-13-2000).]
 
the end.
sorry to see you go mark,but if thats you r decision,then its up to you,and not anyone else.so long,fellow knifeknutt.
 
Ah ... the search for a spiritual self ... and the symbology associated therewith. C.J. Jung would have fun with this thread, I think.

Just to be sure, if I were to start using symbols of pagan origin, say, for example, the "dragon's eye" symbol, or an Ankh, someone would be offended? Show of hands?
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Seriously, someone who's searching for (or found) a sense of spiritual self should be applauded. Some of us are searching for a spiritual centre, & it's heartening to know that others have found theirs.

Jon
 
I got a dusty old computer, and the nearest fiber optic line to me is still a good day's horse ride away from here.

Thus, I am offended by any graphically enhanced signature line, whatever the content. This s.o.b. is slow enuff without having to wait for thumbnail images. Dog-gone bandwidth eating bastids!
 
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by MAURICE:
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sorry to see you go mark,but if thats you r decision,then its up to you,and not anyone else.so long,fellow knifeknutt.</font>
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Maurice, I don't think you've followed this thread too closely, have you?
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Hoodoo

I get some pleasure from finding a relentlessly peaceful use for a combative looking knife.
JKM
 
honestly hoodoo,no i havent.
but i do see that people are getting upset over another person's beliefs,and i think thats rediculous.have a nice day.
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Here is a picture of Paracelsus
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The origional of course............

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Brian
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Yup, thats me cooking up the Elixir of Eternal Life. I wish I hadn't done that. I am stuck looking like that for all of Eternity now...
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Para(not)

BTW, searching the Catholic Encylopedia for Paracelsus will reveal an extraordinary amount of information about my namesake, personal hero, and the real me

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I am coming into this late as I have just found this thread. I think a lot of people are overlooking the fact that none of us should even know about this. It was sent in confidence in a private email. Mark broke that confidence. It's Mark's bad, not Paracelsus'. Mark should have gotten Para's permission to talk about it publicly. If Para had TOLD him to remove it or had been acting as a BFC Moderator, than I would feel Mark may have had a case to go public. But that didn't happen. I also don't buy Mark's statement that "I didn't mention it". What did you think would happen when you make a bold statement like that? You aren't naive enough to think that people would just say goodbye and let you go on your way are you? Of course not. You wanted a specific reaction from people and that is exactly what happened. Everyone saying "Don't go" and "What brought this on?" If you really just wanted to say "goodbye" to your friends, you could have done it by private email. It seems like an obvious bait and switch that worked perfectly. Para is owed more than an apology.
And by the way Mark, I didn't see anything wrong with it. (Unless someone wants to complain about slow load times) This place has a way of ferreting out trolls and fakes. If someone has something offensive in their sig, the membership will take care of them in short order. I also don't want you to leave. You have a child like enthusiasm for knives that is refreshing and would be missed. You just need to brush up on your Netiquette.

Jim McCullough
 
Just hold on now Jim McCullough .... I never brought up the reason or mentioned Para's name as even being involved & wouldn't have whether YOU want to believe that or not! It was he who brought this forth. I never broke any kind of private email talk between him and I. So, don't put words into my mouth that I didn't reveal at the beginning! If you misread the first post in this thread, then try re-reading it again. Thank you!

And what gives you the right to say what my intentions were anyway? Are you a mind reader? I just wanted to let people know I was going to leave, and I did mention it was personal! It would have remained that way too if, well, it's been said.

I thought this has all been settled
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I thought personal meant private? At least that's what I thought it meant! It would have remained that way too ---- no matter what you want to believe! Sorry, but that's my truth!



[This message has been edited by TitaniumKnutt (edited 12-14-2000).]
 
I think the last several post demonstrate a problem I've been musing over the past few days. Most of us claim that we like the BF for the exchange of ideas--that is, until someone actually goes and embraces an idea to which we don't approve.
I disagree with a lot of guys here--over knives. The rest is your choice. And the whining has become a real turn-off.
In starting my own business, I spend a lot of time on the computer. For a break, I used to leave the BF 'open.' When I needed a change of pace, I'd flip over to the forum and catch up. I'm into Microholics most of the day now.
For Titaniumknutt, it was religious icons--and I could care who did what to whose dog under what bridge when it came to a public posting. Ti-knutt has an opinion. And he could believe that the lowly Spydie was farted out by the demi-god Vulcan for all I care. He has an opinion in this opinion forum.
I've become more selective in my viewing. I'm not going to get sucked into another 'duelling' debate. I stopped hitting W/C. I'm focused on threads with knife content.
And I don't really care if your response is "Hey, OKG, you're a butt-head." I probably won't read it anyway. After all, I have a life.--OKG
 
http://village.infoweb.ne.jp/~fwip4150/Kempo/v_manji.htm

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We are, as a society, so concerned with symbolism I wonder at times how we will ever survive.

Some time ago, a "Civil Rights Organization" petitioned Webster's (if I remember correctly) to remove the infamous "N" word. As if eradicating the word from a popular dictionary could remove the evil in the hearts of some human beings.

What is troubling is, symbols can be used, misused and misinterpreted.

This is America. You have freedom or religion, or freedom from it.

I fail to see how any of these symbols, used in a proper context, could offend anyone unless that person was looking to be offended.

My signature that I use occasionally, could be taken that I am a James Bond fan (I actually am a fan of "Q," not Bond
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If someone supported "The Brady Bunch" and believed in Gun Control, it could be seen as "Trigger Happy" or as the rabid symbolism of a "Gun Nut."

I will leave it for you to decide.

I would not be offended by any Shinto, Buddhist, Christian, Moslem or Jewish symbols of faith. Hmmm...upside down cross is Satanic as far as I know. I would question a person's sanity perhaps if they really believed in that, but to each his own. As long as they are not into human sacrifice, let them be.

We are so polarized and split into warring factions in this country, sometimes I wonder how we have avoided another Civil War. I really do.

Stars of David...Crosses...whatever. Leave people be. I fail to see how it is "offensive" for me to view a Star of David or a Cross...it is ludicrous to me as a free loving human being. It is an expression. How on Earth could an expression of faith in that manner be "offensive?"

Kempo uses a symbol, as I posted above. So what?

The Iron Eagle, am I to assume you are referring to the "Iron Cross?" A Medal for Valor? It was actually not a Nazi thing, unless it had a Swastika on it. It was used in World War One, and I do not profess to know the history of it before that.

This hypersensitivity is far more disturbing...




[This message has been edited by Don Rearic (edited 12-14-2000).]
 
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