Knives you overestimated

The Sniper Bladeworks LPC for me. I liked it a lot, had a unique bowie/harpoon style blade, and was as thick and even smoother than my Strider SMF, but I just couldn't get a razor edge on that thing.
 
Full failures
Voyager X2
I was getting the ribs of the 3rd deer of the season, It was hung hind legs from a tree, i struck wrong.
The blade went in towards the spine and curled to the right for an inch at the failure point.
I can say this with absolute confidence: when i hit the spine i beat the s#!t out of the rib/spine with that one strike! it took a hell of a lot to do what i did, i used its replacement with utmost confidence that i would likely never break it but that the edge may still fail catastophically, i replaced the carbon v clippoint with the cts bd1 tanto x2. it was the first/last time I used a folder like Lynn does in the abuse vids.

Kabar heavy bowie
i was leaning in the door way to my bedroom with knife in hand holding the door frame. it snapped at the guard with virtually no pressure, i only thought the knife moved in the sheath and i didnt know till i unsheathed and only had handle.

Total disappointments

CRKT Edgie
i thought it was awesome til i tried the internal sharpener, it left the biggest burr defeating the purpose.
 
Napthrix said:
If anything, I over-research, so no. I bought three CRKs knowing full well that they were overpriced.
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Same dude I've never over estimated a knife which is why I love my CRK if you go into a CRK thinking it is the best knife ever you will be very disappointed with it but if you go into it knowing it was designed to be a user it will suit you well.

That being said the only knife I over estimated was the spyderco pm2 and I did a lot of research on it and everyone said it was a great knife I got it and it was not that good it was just ehh ok. That being said I do get why people like it.
 
craytab said:
Okay, well remember when you said this:


It is not the steels fault you used a knife for something it was not intended. And amount spent does not equal what you wanted those knives to do for you. You can get a better knife in 3v from many makers for a lot less that will do what you want, you are choosing not to do so. Again, not CPM's fault. That is on you.


You contradict yourself sentence to sentence. "some 440 was just as bad or worse" to "CPMs so far were for me an amazing step back compared to everything I had previously seen". Well which one is it. Can't be both. And again, you were using traditionally folding knife steels as choppers, and a gerber :rolleyes:

You can't condemn a whole class of steel with little to no experience with it, especially when the rest of the knife world knows you are wrong.
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this guy remind me of Noz, or Nohz or whatever his name was years awhile back
 
So far everything in S-30V and CPM 154 has been radically incapable of holding a 15 dps angle edge apex straight for any tasks, including cutting cardboard with a Gerber Mark II...

Same on an S30V RJ Martin Vanguard Blackbird or Raven, whatever the 10.5" model is called, one of my biggest disappointment (perfect design/execution otherwise)...

I'm about to try a Survive! GSO 10 in CPM 3V, and if that edge micro-folds at 15 dps, that's it for CPM steels for me.

Gaston
 
Gaston444 said:
So far everything in S-30V and CPM 154 has been radically incapable of holding a 15 dps angle edge apex straight for any tasks, including cutting cardboard with a Gerber Mark II...

Same on an S30V RJ Martin Vanguard Blackbird or Raven, whatever the 10.5" model is called, one of my biggest disappointment (perfect design/execution otherwise)...

I'm about to try a Survive! GSO 10 in CPM 3V, and if that edge micro-folds at 15 dps, that's it for CPM steels for me.

Gaston
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You said you didn't change the angle on the Gerber. And wait, are you telling me a gerber failed? How about you don't ruin the edge of that gso before you test it.
 
The Estwing Drop Forged Bowie.

At first my interest was piqued, but then I saw it, then I thought about it, and then it went down the tubes...
Guess I caught this one early, good thing too.
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Gaston444 said:
So far everything in S-30V and CPM 154 has been radically incapable of holding a 15 dps angle edge apex straight for any tasks, including cutting cardboard with a Gerber Mark II...

Same on an S30V RJ Martin Vanguard Blackbird or Raven, whatever the 10.5" model is called, one of my biggest disappointment (perfect design/execution otherwise)...

I'm about to try a Survive! GSO 10 in CPM 3V, and if that edge micro-folds at 15 dps, that's it for CPM steels for me.

Gaston
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Are you seriously blaming certain steels instead of taking responsibility for putting ridiculously thin edges that fail on chopping knives?

Hmm...
Gaston444...
4+4+4=12...
12 is the age you're acting.

Suck up any pride you have left and leave the GSO 10's edge geometry alone and use the damn thing as it is. You should know by now that cutting an edge past 18 dps is an absolute recipe for failure when it comes to you and choppers.
 
ericnpeterson said:
I'm on the fence about my new Sebenza 21... had it for a week now. It's a cool looking knife, construction, everything that's ever been said about how solid etc... is true, and it looks awesome and everything. However, I'm a little bummed about the steel and how it doesn't get the edge I'd hoped for in a $400.00 knife. Now, that same day I got a Spyderco Endura 4... THIS is like a razor blade!! No surprise, as all of my Spydies are just amazing. The Sebenza doesn't seem to hold it's own even against my Delica 4 as far as a work horse goes. Had I had the chance to "try out" a Sebenza for a week, I probably wouldn't have bought one. All the online hype about it, yet hardly anyone has anything to say about the steel edge.. it's all about endlessly flipping it open and closed, listening to the "bank vault" click. I guess I would appreciate the knife more if I didn't need to use it, and I just sat in an office bored, opening and closing it... occasionally opening a piece of mail or cutting an apple once a week. I need a work knife that can WORK. I have 5 Spydies and so far I've yet to see ANY knife that can measure up to these. My new $400.00 CRK certainly doesn't.
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Part of the issue might be that despite CRKs hollow grind they have a convex edge. This means that it can be hard to sharpen them by hand until that convex edge is shapened to a flat edge.

This coupled with the fact that many CRKs come relatively dull from the factory can fool you into thinking the knife can't get sharp.
 
Standard78 said:
Are you seriously blaming certain steels instead of taking responsibility for putting ridiculously thin edges that fail on chopping knives?

Hmm...
Gaston444...
4+4+4=12...
12 is the age you're acting.

Suck up any pride you have left and leave the GSO 10's edge geometry alone and use the damn thing as it is. You should know by now that cutting an edge past 18 dps is an absolute recipe for failure when it comes to you and choppers.
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Funny, I never noticed that on my Randall 12 and Lile Mission, and they both went way past 1200 chops at around 12 degree per side...

Even my Voorhis in lowly 5160 held up reasonably well at 15 per side, about 70% as well as the above two at 12 degrees, which is inferior but fair, given how easy it sharpens.

Can't wait to see how the GSO-10, my Busse Battlesaw and Randall Smithsonian in O-1 all do... Only a few more months to get them all together...

Gaston
 
Gaston444 said:
Funny, I never noticed that on my Randall 12 and Lile Mission, and they both went way past 1200 chops at around 12 degree per side...

Even my Voorhis in lowly 5160 held up reasonably well at 15 per side, about 70% as well as the above two at 12 degrees, which is inferior but fair, given how easy it sharpens.

Can't wait to see how the GSO-10, my Busse Battlesaw and Randall Smithsonian in O-1 all do... Only a few more months to get them all together...

Gaston
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I think we all know the exact results you will come up with....
 
Standard78 said:
Apparently hundreds of threads showing the capability of 3v are absolute BS in his eyes.
His posts should come with a warning label.
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That's actually an amazing idea. Someone should develop a message board software that short of banning someone or other times where applicable someone could be given an automatic BS warning at the start of every post.

Maybe not such a good idea though because what if the idea takes off and google or youtube run with a similar system to harm the content of people those companies have an issue with.

*Edit* on second thought forget this idea: I would probably have a warning already.
 
Standard78 said:
The Busse Battlesaw and GSO 10 will inevitably fail because of his distaste for supersteels while the Randall Smithsonian will miraculously excel because of his love for Randall.

It's a predictable story that writes itself.
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Not so sure on the Randall. It's O1, not stainless. It isn't just supersteels, it's any non-stainless steel that is always, always awful, so it probably won't match the performance of 440B or AUS8 either. It will likely be reported as being better than INFI or D3V though.
 
how is it that you can at the same time say "not all 440c knives are bad, you can't say that because some of them are very good." Therefore the poor quality of some 440c knives does not speak for all.

But at the same time say "I have tried a few knives in s30v and CPM154 and they were poor quality, and thus they are all poor quality" therefore the quality of some CPM steel knives speaks for them all, including extrapolation to all powder steels?
 
It is interesting how many times the PM2 has been mentioned here. I agree, very over-hyped. The blade is so short for the overall size, the tip is fragile, and the handle is very blocky. It isn't a bad knife and the compression lock is really good. I also don't understand the love for finger choils. If there wasn't one, the blade would a much longer cutting edge and the handle could be smaller without comfort loss. Get rid of the finger choil and the space needed in the handle and the cutting edge would be really close to the finger again without the need for all the wasted knife steel and bigger handle.

As someone also has said, the handle length needed to accommodate the lanyard hole is ridiculous.
 
craytab said:
I think we all know the exact results you will come up with....
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I can't wait til we hear the stories about how he fought for 45 minutes to put the Battle Saw in a gym sock and the ensuing scratches from the teeth on the spine and how this is all due to a faulty knife design and not his fault at all...
 
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