i came back here to tell of the events regarding the process of the knife sale, i see JKA is making claims against me, thats ok, stropping? in any event, the knife went to the manufacturer, he verified my observations, these observations were sent to Pay Pal, they made an easy decision. i did not read the remaining posts since JKA weaves such a good yarn but the knife came back to him in the condition it came to me in. as witnessed by the manufacturer. it was noted that the blade had been dulled through use, the blade and ti had scratches, and there is a knick on the upper left hand portion of the spanto, it is felt that the knife had been dropped. as far as stropping, that would only serve to sharpen the blade.he had all of you demanding that i drop the dispute, any one of you familiar with pay pal knows that dropping a dispute is the same as telling them all issues are resolved and he would get his money and than it would take an act of god to recover my money. i conducted my activity by the sellers rules of this forum and of Pay Pal, plus i had to deal with JKA and his deceit, he told the forum 1 thing, his desire to refund my money, and me NO RETURNS take it up with hinderer, and plaza cutlery, so i had to take the simple measures i did to protect my interests, i ask any of you, if you purchase an NIB knife for an investment, and it comes used, where is the investment. i started this thread to make sure none of you buy this knife, it back fired on me, big deal, in the end justice was served. so, if i am unwanted here, well thats life and it will go on