Late model muscle....?

First off, theres no such thing as a foreign muscle car. dont even mention those two together lol. They have no CLUE as to what makes a muscle car a muscle car.
its funny.. i just went thru this in my life too.. DO NOT DO IT! First off, foreign cars are a PAIN to maintain. Not only are they really different, their parts are hard to find, and overly expensive. now times that by 2 for a foreign 'muscle' car...
Ive always been into fixing and racing cars as a hobby, but, for some reason, i bought a foreign car ive always fancied a bmw 3 series. while theyre well thought out, and kinda novel, thats about all they are. NO foreign car is BETTER per se than an american version. Theyre just different thats all. Heres a quick example of what youre goin to go thru. wanted to do a tune up on my bmw. spark plugs wires. standard issue oem style. 160 bucks. for FOUR of them... performance MSD spark plug wires for my 87 buick grand national? 70 bucks.. Ok im lost. I get EMI reducing, thicker diameter performance wires for a grand national, for 70 bucks.. and i get SIX OF THEM.. but i only get FOUR standard issue oem wires for my bmw for A HUNDRED AND SIXTY DOLLARS??? No thank you. ill just roll mine till they die. head gasket develops a little leak. i dont want to mess with it, as i was the assistant manager of a small auto maintenance facility, and we didnt do major work like that. my brothers a master mechanic 2 miles down the street at his facility. i take it to vince (my bro) and tell em to change out the head gasket. took him 4 days, ( of work, not overall time) to do the repari itself. then he had to order more gaskets, that werent in the gasket kit i gave him, about 2 weeks for them to come in, and for him to figure out how to do this crap. 1200 dollars later, were all done.. all cuz the repair was non typical, and it was the first one they did... theyre not worth it dude. so their steering wheels heat.. so freakin what. screw them cars man, theyre nothing but a pain in the A$$ Im telling you. Take it from a person, that works on cars quite a bit, and has had both plain old daily drivers, bmw's, and muslcecars..
what you get in return, for the inconvenience of owning, is a poor investment. sure, they 'go out' less frequently than american cars, but im tellin ya man, when they do go out, you better have a decent amount of money saved up man... Let just the spark plug example show you, what type of territory youre about to go trekkin into... And just for a kicker, I only paid ten five for this, and it would whoop the SHIT outta any little foreign job you care to bring out of the garage. And its nicer too. Stay american man. If you dont, youll regret it in the long run i bet your life on it...
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The cars zipping through the road track in the photos above are the Honda S2000. That has a 2-liter engine (depending on the model year), so it's actually the same size as your Mountain Dew.

BTW, if you drink that much soda pop regularly, you may not fit into a Honda S2000. Aside from physical comfort, the car's weight limit (including passengers, luggage, and accessories) is 400lbs.

-Bob


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Bob W...take my comment for what it was meant to be...also, read posts 8, 21, 26, 29 and 31 in this thread.

BTW, I'm 6'6", 235 lbs, and had no trouble getting in or out of my S2000 (or my NSX, which was MUCH roomier inside). My S2000 had the same displacement as my Mountain Dew, the NSX was larger.
 
I admit, the lancers, wrx's, and especially the bmw M series are overall, VERY fun cars. they do everything well (especially the M3). sure, theyre not as fast down the quarter mile like my buick, but they are pretty good at every other thing you can think of. oh yea, and

"Of course is speed is what your after, the Suzuki Hayabusa would absolutely spank any car that's been listed. And for a fraction of the price of anything that's been listed".

Is wrong. the '06, ZO6, would walk a 'busa.. Ive already seen it. plus theres already many many videos of it as well. Cuz you know, the first thing you do, when you get a new REALLY fast car, is test it against a bike. And i tell ya what, those new ZO6's are pullin 10.8's already.. thats STOCK. imagine what they'd do with air in/out mods, and an ecm mod...

As for bang for the buck... horsepower per dollar, the new Z06 EMBARRASSES ANY car on the road hands down. (yes, thats including ferrarri, porsche and lamborghini) BUT, as far as practicality, ya cant take em grocery shopping, ya cant drive em in the winter, and the insurance is UNGODLY. = unpractical. As far as everyday cars, that handle, get up and go, and are nice lookin, the wrx sti and the evo are really nice. BUT...
are they cool? no. theyre girls cars. Will you get laughed at at a car show or on a cruise strip? sure will. are they easy to fix? NOPE. are they cheap? nope. are they easy to maintain? nope. are they rice burners, generally only driven by kids? yep. are they fads that will pass when you grow up? yep. :) Think maintenance, insurance, winter driving, seating capacity, and overall coolness. This pretty much rules out foreign cars lol. Ya wanna cheap car that is practical, easy to fix, and can still move out? mustang. any year actually. Ya want a car thats REAL easy to fix, ALWAYS looks cool, and looks like a mans car? Drive an american muscle car. If i were you, id just go ahead and throw some tight leafs in there, tubular aluminum control arms all the way around, or whatever you need to do, to stiffen er up, rebuild your engine, get a good cooling system, recover the interior and go. Novas are sweet already. by the time you spend 35 grand on some cheesy import, i could have built your nova, into the coolest street car that youve ever seen in your life..... Straight up man. for 10 grand, your nova would be TITS.
Or.. you could just go ahead and buy a turbo buick :0 and for peanuts, not only turn 11's at the track, but break EVERYONES neck at every carshow you show up to.. :)
 
Fix the Nova.

go to http://www.vbandp.com/ (vette brakes) and buy your suspension and brake upgrades (they may have a 4 wheel disk conversion for your Nova). I have dealt with them for suspension and break parts for my 76 stingray (put all new rear leaf spring, all shocks, all bushings) when I rebuilt the suspension and brakes; reasonable prices, exceptional service even if you have to return an item due to you not using it (front brake rotors due to me not ordering the Hub/rotor assembly as the factory rotors are riveted to the hub, I later replaced the front rotors). Also go with stainless steel sleeved calipers with o-ring seals as these can be easily repaired in the driveway by replacing an o-ring, also they last better than the original lip sealed calipers.

Dave
 
I hate to break it to you Buddiiee, but the Chevy dealer wanted $175 for plug wires (not installed) for my 93 Lumina- and that was 5 years ago!
 
I think some people are just a LITTLE bit biased when it comes to cars. Everyone is really...it's just picking favorites, I definetly have mine. As long as you see that no one domestic car is completely superior to all import cars...you'll be OK reading most of this thread. And vica-versa(sp?), imports aren't perfect by any means. My family is GM, my GP retired from GM and worked there the majority of his life...I turned out to be an import lover 100%.
 
BTW, I'm 6'6", 235 lbs, and had no trouble getting in or out of my S2000 (or my NSX, which was MUCH roomier inside). My S2000 had the same displacement as my Mountain Dew, the NSX was larger.
I'm 5'9" and 200 lbs. The '02-vintage "S" fits me just fine, but the '06 was too tight in the seat. :)

I don't visit regularly, but I'm "bobthearch" over at S2ki.

the '06, ZO6, would walk a 'busa.. Ive already seen it. plus theres already many many videos of it as well. Cuz you know, the first thing you do, when you get a new REALLY fast car, is test it against a bike. And i tell ya what, those new ZO6's are pullin 10.8's already.. thats STOCK.
Those new 'Vettes are impressive! Didn't realize how much they've improved recently performance-wise. Would love to have a Z06, if they're ever on sale for $40,000 below msrp. :(
It's possible that the next generation of Corvette will be a mid-engine car. Saw some photos of the concept car today online.

-Bob
 
I admit, the lancers, wrx's, and especially the bmw M series are overall, VERY fun cars. they do everything well (especially the M3). sure, theyre not as fast down the quarter mile like my buick, but they are pretty good at every other thing you can think of. oh yea, and

"Of course is speed is what your after, the Suzuki Hayabusa would absolutely spank any car that's been listed. And for a fraction of the price of anything that's been listed".

Is wrong. the '06, ZO6, would walk a 'busa.. Ive already seen it. plus theres already many many videos of it as well. Cuz you know, the first thing you do, when you get a new REALLY fast car, is test it against a bike. And i tell ya what, those new ZO6's are pullin 10.8's already.. thats STOCK. imagine what they'd do with air in/out mods, and an ecm mod...

As for bang for the buck... horsepower per dollar, the new Z06 EMBARRASSES ANY car on the road hands down. (yes, thats including ferrarri, porsche and lamborghini) BUT, as far as practicality, ya cant take em grocery shopping, ya cant drive em in the winter, and the insurance is UNGODLY. = unpractical. As far as everyday cars, that handle, get up and go, and are nice lookin, the wrx sti and the evo are really nice. BUT...
are they cool? no. theyre girls cars. Will you get laughed at at a car show or on a cruise strip? sure will. are they easy to fix? NOPE. are they cheap? nope. are they easy to maintain? nope. are they rice burners, generally only driven by kids? yep. are they fads that will pass when you grow up? yep. :) Think maintenance, insurance, winter driving, seating capacity, and overall coolness. This pretty much rules out foreign cars lol. Ya wanna cheap car that is practical, easy to fix, and can still move out? mustang. any year actually. Ya want a car thats REAL easy to fix, ALWAYS looks cool, and looks like a mans car? Drive an american muscle car. If i were you, id just go ahead and throw some tight leafs in there, tubular aluminum control arms all the way around, or whatever you need to do, to stiffen er up, rebuild your engine, get a good cooling system, recover the interior and go. Novas are sweet already. by the time you spend 35 grand on some cheesy import, i could have built your nova, into the coolest street car that youve ever seen in your life..... Straight up man. for 10 grand, your nova would be TITS.
Or.. you could just go ahead and buy a turbo buick :0 and for peanuts, not only turn 11's at the track, but break EVERYONES neck at every carshow you show up to.. :)

i would not lump the Subaru (or most Japanese cars) with the BMW on reliability and maintenance costs (i've only bought gas, oil and tires for mine in 3 1/2 years)

i'd agree that it's not really a muscle car though, it's more refined than that, if you are solely talking about 1/4 mile times, then a WRX isn't the optimal car.
btw, i'm totally into the old school American muscle, but i wouldn't want to drive one every day

those turbo Buicks are sweet cars that no one seems to know about anymore

personally i drool over the first/early body styles of Camaro and Mustang... i will own one eventually...

one thing the WRX does not do is attract ladies... it's a dude magnet. i mean guys come up to me all the time. if a moderately, or even somewhat hot chick drove one, she'd have all the male attention she'd ever need
 
I hate to break it to you Buddiiee, but the Chevy dealer wanted $175 for plug wires (not installed) for my 93 Lumina- and that was 5 years ago!

Wow.. that sucks lol. I dont get it.. those are 50 dollar ac delcos bro.. what happened? Did they change your car, so that it uses the little thingies with their own little coil in each? Im very sure 93's dont use those. What engine do you have?? Youre getting taken bro. First off, NEVER EVER go to the stealer, i mean dealer, for plain old car parts. Never. Secondly, the 172 dollar wires that youre speaking of, are performance wires. No lumina needs performance wires lol. Youre gettin ripped bro. Its an older chevy. NO WIRES cost that much lol. NOW...lets talk the oceanfront property I got for sale in arizona for ya.. :)

And are we a little bit biased in our choices? Sure we are.. Why? Cuz weve owned all those cars, and decided on the most practical lol. To be honest, a turbo buick isnt practical 'overal' and I know that. Thats why my main choice, was to just stay american, and if you can, do the oldest car ya can. My first choice would be to just fix the nova. I mean really, with 5 grand and a summit catalog (and some good late night hours behind the computer, studying the nova forums) you could have a sweet ass nova. I mean really, whats to em. A block, heads, a carb, 4 wheels, some leaf springs, 2 seats and a rear bench. They come apart like lego, and you can find engine parts at Kmart man. I could go in my girlfriends garage, and probably find a part that fits. Easy to work on, and classic. And I dont wanna hear the 'but they handle like crap' cuz it would be SIMPLE to make em handle nice. My cousins got a yellow w/ black racing striped 350/350 nova, and its a pretty nice car man. Put it this way. Fix it up, drive it, and if you dont like it, sell it. It wont be hard man. Youll make your money back.

And as for me being biased. Nope. Not for a daily driver. I already have my dream car in the garage. Im partial to buick, for performance only. As for gettin to the grocery store, I could care less about performance. Ill drive whatever drives. And will suggest the same. As far as cars with a little 'zip' to em, I would never go foriegn. Yea, they get good gas mileage sure but, some of our cars do too. If you already have a true daily driver, fix up the nova, and drive er on the weekends :)
 
I dunno, I consider the Corvette a pretty big car, especially for a 2-seater. Driving a 72' made my 4-door Altima seem like a Miata. That's the only Corvette I have driven though (sad)

ya need to drive the later edition vettes to understand the old ones (ie pre '84) just didnt handle well. i didnt like them either.

i have driven LS6 chevelles, Z/28 camaros, boss mustangs, and all kinda hot rods and probably the fastest thing i've ever driven was a '95 supra turbo which had a lot of HKS stuff done to it, and a lot of turbo work, he claimed 450 HP and i do believe it, i never thought a long 6 engine would pull like that.
 
ever felt how a buick turbo 6 pulls?

Yep, it was wicked fast on boost. So was the modified twin turbo Supra I rode in. The Supra definitely handled and stopped better though. But I'm sure you could modify the brakes and suspension on the Buick. The one I rode in had engine and drivetrain modifications but nothing was done on the handling or braking end except for good quality high performance tires.
 
The Buick GN was killer fast in a straight line. I was a senior in high school in '87 and was drooling for hours over car magazines every day. I can still remember useless data off the top of my head from that era (the '87 Buick GN was rated 4.3 seconds on the 0-60. :)) Back then I beat my head against the wall every time I saw another person buy a bloody anemic Monte Carlo SS when they could have had a screaming B-GN for roughly the same price.

the wrx sti and the evo are really nice. BUT...
are they cool? no. theyre girls cars. Will you get laughed at at a car show or on a cruise strip? sure will. are they easy to fix? NOPE. are they cheap? nope. are they easy to maintain? nope. are they rice burners, generally only driven by kids? yep. are they fads that will pass when you grow up? yep. :)

At the same time, these were the attitudes that I enjoyed when, living next the the Smokies, I could wipe out a Mustang or Camaro on twisty mountain roads while driving my four cylinder GTI Rabbit or Fiat Spyder. For some people, a sports car is not just about straight line speed. It's four wheel disc, road hugging, corner twisting mountain roads.

BTW - They were never, ever about automatics. You want "girls car?" Uh... automatic.

Think maintenance, insurance, winter driving, seating capacity, and overall coolness. This pretty much rules out foreign cars lol. Ya wanna cheap car that is practical, easy to fix, and can still move out? mustang.

Huh?? Don't get me wrong, man. I love a V-8. The torque of a V-8 is hard to replace. The points above don't make any sense though.

Maintenance - My last "fun" car was an Acura Integra GS-R. O-60 times weren't that great; somewhere in the high 6s. The Type R version, at least as recently as two years ago, had the best skidpad rating on record for a production car. Go to a site like Team Integra. Hugely popular forum with lots of help working on stuff. My time was the only thing prohibiting me from doing whatever I wanted to the car. Ease of doing it? Piece of cake. Expense? Affordable.

Insurance - I'm 37 now. I don't get dinged much for insurance anymore. My company still takes more points for "extra" cylinders than for a turbo or supercharger. I strongly doubt the twin turbo Supra or a WRX STi would be any more expensive for me than a Mustang GT.

Winter Driving - You're kidding, right? Seriously? The WRX and Evo are the fifth and sixth generations down from the Group B Rally cars. You know, the Paris - Dakar Rally? Mud, dirt, snow, slick. Rally cars aren't built for top speed but getting to a "race" speed quickly. The old group B (and later, WRC) cars were regularly turbo/supercharged four cylinders, all wheel drive, that made 0-60 in the low three second range. Examples of WRC/Grp B over the years are the Porsche 959, the old Audi Quattro, Lancia's, Golf GTI, and the Ford Cosworth. They were made for driving in nasty conditions. You're not really suggestion a V-8 Mustang is "good in the snow" are you??

Seating Capacity - More usable seating space in a 4-door WRX-type car than a 2-door Grand National or Camaro. At 6'3" and 225, I stopped enjoying crawling over someone's folded front seat to get into the back somewhere around 1989.

Overall Coolness - I don't know man. I stopped worrying about that kind of thing years ago. When I was a kid, it was important. Now, with kids of my own, I want something that puts a smile on my face. I don't care if it makes others smile. The WRX and Evo: ugly cars but, then again, if you're looking for a chick magnet a Grand National will look like a girl's Grandpa's Regal... nevermind the straightline performance. I got more comments from my old Triumph TR6 or Fiat Spyder than I ever did in my friends Firebird GTA. And chick magnet? Man, girls just loved the little red convertibles.


A daily driver if you want a fast, fun car? A WRC/Rally type car is hard to beat. If you want to race mountain curves, start looking at Integra's and the like. Economical, straight line power? Go find a used Mustang or, if you can find one, a Grand National. I DO like them! :thumbup:

I would love to find a twin turbo Supra. And, yes, I've lusted after them since the mid-nineties... none of this Fast and the Furious nonsense. Also? Man, I want a fat, old 94-96 Impala SS.

My favorite car of my brother's while I was growing up (he was 6 years older) was a '69 Chevelle SS 396. This thing was an absolute monster. My Dad had a daily driver 72 Chevelle.


Trivia - Laugh about those high-six zero to sixty times on my Acura if ya want but consider this.

In 1968, the Chevelle SS was redesigned. The rear of the car was shortened while the front was stretched giving it a fast-back appearance. The wheelbase decreased by three inches. The L78 375 horsepower engine option was re-added to the line-up. The zero-to-sixty time was rated around 6.5 seconds while the quarter-mile time was 14.5 seconds.

Not too bad when you consider that little Acura would have wiped out something like this on a mountain road and not at all been embarrassed in a quarter/mile. All while geting twenty-five miles per gallon with MUCH cheaper insurance. ;)
 
yea, the supras are indeed fast. and they do handle as well.

and yea, i agree, a rabbit is the bomb on a mountain road. but, i was just telling of my opinions thats all. while i actually like the golf/rabbit cars, i think theyre girls cars. no offense, its just what i think.
and yea, i see the point about the suspension and brakes but, who here takes their cars on twisty mountain roads to race everyday? most of our driving/messin around is on normal city streets everyday.

Think maintenance, insurance, winter driving, seating capacity, and overall coolness. This pretty much rules out foreign cars lol. Ya wanna cheap car that is practical, easy to fix, and can still move out? mustang.

What I meant was, for a sporty type car. not a car overall. if one wanted a pretty practical 'fun' car, i think...say a notchback mustang 5.0 is hard to beat. it has decent room in it. its an upright car, so you can actually see out in front of you, its relatively quick, VERY easy to work on, very easy to find parts for, and cheap as well. Yea, its probably not going to be the best handling car in the winter, but at least its not really low to the ground like some asian cars are. you could put snow tires on all four corners, and do just fine i think. at least it wont bottom out. and at least its not a 35,000 dollar evo that youre driving thru salt everyday.. which was another concern of mine. (and theres no way a part for an acura, is cheaper than for an older mustang. no way)

and automatics are girls cars? lol. the top racers and streetracers alike use autos. theyre quicker, more accurate, and never misshift. A built 200-4R from my GN, or a built TH 400 works. all the time. everyday. just stab and steer. theyre foolproof. a true racing transmission.

and as for JUST snow driving, i know an all wheel drive subaru or wrx are great. but like i said, theres other points to consider overall (maintenance, cost, ease of repair etc etc)

Seating Capacity - More usable seating space in a 4-door WRX-type car than a 2-door Grand National or Camaro. At 6'3" and 225, I stopped enjoying crawling over someone's folded front seat to get into the back somewhere around 1989.

First off, my GN, is a full size regal. Theres a lot more room in there than you think. but, why are you crawling over someones lap? first off, you should be driving, not riding ;) and secondly, if you dont wanna crawl, just load the car, in the reverse order, thats all. if done right, noone should ever have to crawl over legs :) but i agree though, when you do, it gets old quick. when i bought a 4 door bmw, it was sure nice having that other door lol.

Overall Coolness - I don't know man. I stopped worrying about that kind of thing years ago. When I was a kid, it was important. Now, with kids of my own, I want something that puts a smile on my face. I don't care if it makes others smile. The WRX and Evo: ugly cars but, then again, if you're looking for a chick magnet a Grand National will look like a girl's Grandpa's Regal... nevermind the straightline performance. I got more comments from my old Triumph TR6 or Fiat Spyder than I ever did in my friends Firebird GTA. And chick magnet? Man, girls just loved the little red convertibles.

I always thought the 'cool' factor was alwalys somewhat of a point here though. (wasnt it?) Tell me...if it truely wasnt, youd all be driving minivans. they ARE the most practical vehicles around arent they? yep. i thought so lol. if 'coolness' was never a factor ever, lamborghinis, ferarris, porsches, corvettes, gt500 mustangs, gtos, vipers, the turbochargers on the lancers, the turbochargers on the sti's, dodge chargers, firebirds etc etc. would NEVER sell. and these arent really kids cars either, cuz these cars are gettin dam expensive now. these are adults driving these really unecessary cars lol. so we cant really talk TRUE practicality, cuz if we were, there would only be geo metros, pickup trucks, and minivans. :)
coolness still plays a part man. lets not kid ourselves. Matter of fact, when the 38's -50's start to hit, that coolness factor gets called up to duty alll over again :) (every guy needs a toy. period. thats already a proven fact)
And i actually think the blue wrx's are pretty decent cars. they have a very neutral look about them, are awd, 4 door'ed, and turboed. cool cars overall. (but not for me) and a little tr-6? SWEET rides. id love to have one. cuz they must maneuver like hell....and are...."cool"

for economical power? a turbo regal is hard to beat. full seating for 5 adults, luxury (yea, my steering wheel dont heat, nor does my centre console keep drinks cold, but thats just over the top. its a car, not a house.) speed, power evertything, decent fuel mileage, good looks, and classic collectibility. its the whole package. I could pack my trunk FULL of groceries for a month, roll with the air on, and still whoop a firebird on the way home. I think im good :)

and a twin turbo supra? id actually like to experiment with one of those,, but theyre like 35,000 and up man. check em out on ebay, theyre expensive. :(

and an acura... (or even the sti for that matter)... well.. theyre practical but... well....theyre asain.... asian cars are just lame cuz of how i grew up. i know its a closed mindset, but.. I grew up in the motor city, in a family of mechanics, constantly wrenchin on darts, dusters, chargers, coronets, and superbees... (and one nova) I see things differently.. I guess thru musclecar tinted glasses lol. sorry.

the bottom line? if you got good cashflow, get the wrx sti. straight up. I hate to say it but its fast, got 4 doors, and is awd. and is cheaper (i think) than volvos or mitsubishis equivalent. but on a budget, which is how i ALWAYS think, you should fix the nova, OR , if you dont feel like wrenchin on it, get an older mustang. straight up. thats my final answer lol. i like cars.. but its hard to beat an older american car in my opinion.
 
If it has a back seat, 4 doors, and a hard top, then it can't really be a sportscar. :D

Muscle car, why not. But not a sportscar.

-Bob
 
I mean really, if something goes wrong on say, a chevy or ford from 95 on down, you can pretty much, without having a ton of mechanical inclination, go to ANY parts store, and buy a part for your car, for cheaper than any other countrys car, and most likely install it yourself. theyre simple and cheap. and for most of them, if you care to make em a little faster, or handle a bit better, you can always order up some sort of 'go fast' part, and install it, or a stiffer spring, a bilstein shock, or a bit bigger sway bar, and throw it on yourself. when I worked at my little preventative maintenance facility, the top 3 highest mileage cars that came in, were all of the lumina/monte carlo platform, everything under that was an old ford pickup, an old chevy pickup, an old caprice wagon, and 3 chrysler minivans and some other u.s. models. the lowest mileage, was 204,000, and the highest mileage, was the lumina, with 750,000 miles on it. Not a one foriegn car in there. the american oil changes, always costed, between 24.98, and 34.98 out the door. the other cars, like the mercedes suv, the volvo turbos, and some other ones were 98 bucks and up. for a stupid oil change. why? cuz they were different.
Now, im not refuting foriegn quality, cuz my little bmw lead a VERY VERY rough life, as a lease car in its beginning, and i know how bad, first hand, people treat their leases lol. with 190,000 miles on her, the only thing i did, was have my brother replace the headgasket, cuz it was leaking coolant a little. thats it. she still runs like a champ.
but were in america. not bavaria, or sweden, or korea. parts for indigenous cars are always cheaper, so is the labor. for practicality, while living in america, an older american car is hard to beat man.
 
Most early cars foreign or domestic before the computer age are easy to work on.

As for parts availabity you are dead on. When in America...american parts are easier to get, unless you have a very popular foreign car, IE VW Bug, Mini Cooper, MGB, Triumph, Land Rover etc.

Paul
 
I've never had a part I needed for my Nissan I couldn't find at AutoZone, or order from NAPA in one day. I've never had any MAJOR work done on my 14 year old Nissan, it has all been very minor garage stuff. But that just goes to tell you...most foreign 4-banger cars are very reliable if you treat them right.

I don't know who you went for an oil change, but we can do pretty much ANY car's oil for $24.99 where I work. Any line Mercedes, VW, Volvo, BMW, Audi, Corvette, etc. I do them everyday on all kinds of cars, turbocharged, supercharged, diesels, etc. We only charge an extra fee if they need mroe than 5 quarts...and most trucks do...not alot of cars need more than 5.
 
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