Least amount you would spend$$$$$ ???

Hello Dr Bill, thank you for posing some interesting questions and getting me to think.

You mentioned this "If you make a statement that a Mora is as likely to break as a fixed blade knife-you better have changed the laws of Physics first to allow that statement to be correct".

IMHO, used for slicing (it's intended purpose) a Mora would be as likely to break as a Busse BM.

Using the laws of physics wouldn't the Mora make a better slicer?
At school I wasn't very good at factual things like maths or the sciences, I preferred emotional things like art and music, so I'm probably wrong.
 
I'm a total newbie but I'll throw in my .02. Based on what Ive seen I'd be comfortable using a Cold Steel GI Tanto, Bushman, or Kukri Machete. They all run between $20-40 depending on where you buy them.

That is the cheapest I would spend but plenty of us here know that a $45,000 vette will perform with or out perform a $80,000 Porsche.

So while I could get buy with a Cold Steel I love my Gerber LMF II I spent $75 on. The ergos and overall build quality are worth the extra coin to me.
 
"WHAT IS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU NEED TO SPEND ON A KNIFE BEFORE YOU WOULD RISK YOUR LIFE ON IT NOT FAILING IN A WILDERNESS SETTING"???

Based strictly on price, an Old Hickory Butcher Knife http://www.ontarioknife.com/catalog/item/119
It looks like retail is about $8 and I know how tough they are. Many of the original "American outdoorsmen" carried a knife very similar to one of these and it served them well. It may not be my first choice but it would be the most cost effective.
 
Depends on how many you are going to take with you.
I love Moras (esp the triflex) but using just a Mora to do everything might be pushing your luck. But a Mora triflex with a Small hatchet, Fiskars or Wetterlings would be acceptable.
If this is a " carry/trust one knife only thread" then the cheapest just-one i would trust would be a Becker BK2 or one of its larger siblings so......$70-$100.
But really i'm not gonna carry just 1, more likely Hatchet/Multi-tool/smaller fixed blade.
Right now that would Be Granfors Bruks hatchet+Victorinox Spirit+ 01 Enzo. All three of which i acquired for just a little over $110 (TOTAL) via the magic of ebay,lol.
 
The use of capitals has been forsaken-----a gesture which would be finely met with an acceptance of the title, "Bro" ;)

Now, as to the question itself---

It's a difficult one. "Willing" implies that I had a choice in the matter, because if I didn't I could protest loudly that I wasn't willing to rely on my $19.99 Schrade Peanut pocket knife but to no avail, as my private charter plane has crashed (the only way I could have a knife flying) and I'm alone except for the strange, beautiful woman who's with me; who--because of the severity of the crash--has lost nearly all of her clothing and therefore has no pockets or belt in/on which another choice of knife might be. "It's not FAIR!!!" I scream to the Gods, as I quickly smash the radio which could be used to obtain a quick rescue. "What was that?" she asks in a silky voice, coming nearer. "Nothing---just venting my frustration at the cruel twist of fate that's put us here." "But it looks like a rad--" "I SAID IT WAS NOTHING. Now, first we have to make sure you're not hypothermic..."

Anyway, back to the topic at hand. If we can replace "willing" with what lowest price of knife would I be happy to stake my life on (as odd as that sentence may be) then I would have to throw another vote that the Cold Steel Bushman at $25-$30 would be it. I've had several over the years (and still have several). I'm sure there's a story, somewhere, of one failing, but damned if I've ever been able to brake one. They sit in this magical zone of hardness for SK-5, apparently, which provides enough stability to support a real cutting geometry and yet seems to REFUSE to chip. Yes it blunts, but simple carbon steel that it is, it burnishes readily on damned near anything that's hard and yet will stay sharp more than long enough to process a good size deer, which honestly isn't a survival situation reality (you may kill the deer and eat it--although, if done with a knife it implies a bad-assery which probably means you don't need ANY tool other than your hands for this scenario--but you're not going to be lovingly skinning it and tanning the hide while out on the trail, because unless all of humanity is gone and there's nowhere to go then you could be using your time better). Yes, that was the longest run-on sentence of all time.

Anyway, I think it's the biggest bang for the buck that Cold Steel offers, and damned near anyone else. The other I'd seriously look at is the Condor Basic Bushcraft whic is <$24.00 at New Graham. I don't have direct experience with it but the steel is a good choice, it's full tang, and obviously a good utility pattern.
 
YOrkshireboy... Noone is arguing that Moras are better slicers.. but in a wilderness situation (as the one depicted where you must rely on a single bladed tool) tasks required to save your bacon might require more than slicing... If you can slice your way out of a week in the woods with minimal gear and a mora.. More Power to you.. But as for me I'm not at that level yet.. When I;m cold and soaked and its getting dark I want something I can lob limbs off with for shelter.. Or split wet wood for fires.. use as a draw knife Or pin the boogie man to a tree with if I need to...
But yes if I had to carve a feather stick, Clean a trout, or make a spoon a mora would be the right tool for the right job.(even though I have done all of those with my bk7 they're are not as pretty) but for pure survival based on a single implement You have to accept compromises ( at least in my limited experience)..Losing some of the cutting value of a mora in lieu for something with added strength would be one I could live with... but that's just me..ymmv.
 
I might trust a picnic to a Mora, but never my life in an outdoor/ wilderness survival situation. I gotta go with Bill Siegle -- I think the NAvy Pilot's Survival knife for ~$35 is about the cheapest knife that i wouldn't be too freaked out about breaking to really use. And by use i mean really beat on. I guarantee if i tried to make a snow shelter with a Mora, the Mora wouldn't last 10 minutes. Maybe i could baby it and not damage it, but if i want to bust out a shelter and the sun's going down, i'm gonna start swingin'. That's when i want something like a $79 Ranger RD6... well, that's what they used to cost...

Edit: Ooohhh-- that's right! I forgot about the Old Hickory Butcher knives... $8? And another $1-2 for a duct-tape sheath and a lanyard, maybe some tape for the handle, too... $10?
 
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I'd say $35 bucks. The knife is a Buck 119. I've owned 2. The old one I used heavily as a child and up until about 2 years ago, when I passed it along to someone in need. I recently acquired a new one on Xmas, and I would 100% trust my life to one. :thumbup:
 
$8. I would trust my life to a Mora 510 ($8 with serviceable sheath) or $8 for an Old Hickory butcher knife, with no sheath.

I've trusted my life to that Mora 510 with what some would call abuse (batonning, limbing choked up on the end with a lanyard, etc.). I've never had a problem with it so far.
 
While I love a good SAK, and I think Mora's are a great value, I'd have to say that — for that scenario — it would have to be a Becker BK-2 for around $60.

I would — beyond question — trust my life to that knife.
 
There are probably cheaper knives that I haven't owned that would do the trick, but in my own experience I'd say about $80. That's what I paid for my RC-4 and it is tough enough and stout enought that I'd trust my life to it in almost every situation. The one situation in which I'd probably want a more expensive knife would be in a winter arctic situation where steel becomes more brittle. In that scenario I'd probably wouldn't settle for anything less than a larger Busse (~$300 range).

I have great experience personally with the Ontario RATs, but to get down into the $60 area you'd have to go with the RAT3 and I wouldn't want a knife quite that short for this scenario (only one knife). Once you move up to the RAT7 you are into the price range of an ESEE/RC-4, which I'd prefer for its superior heat treat.

I wouldn't trust my life in a one knife situation to a Mora or any other partial tang knife. I'd even be reluctant to settle for a Kabar, although I've deliberately abused mine with no ill consequences. I just wouldn't have peace of mind with a stick tang.

So in the end I'd bottom out with an RC-4 in the $80 range.
 
I haven't read the other responses yet, but I will. I wanted my answer to be unvarnished.

Here in Central Brazil I feel I can do everything I need to do with a Tramontina Machete and a wood handled Mora #2.

My current machete of choice is one I cut down into a golok profile and added my combo edge and spine mods. I also strengthened the handle with a micarta wrap. When I'm in the bush this blade easily performs 80% of the work I have to do and covers all the hard use tasks such as batonning or cutting hardwood. I use the mora for all the small detail cutting tasks and because the machete is right there I don't ever have to beat on this knife.

I have other knives I like better such as my Skookum Bush Tool and my Brusletto. Both of these are strong knives that handle very well but in reality they take it to a higher degree than is strictly necessary, especially when paired up with the machete.

Between the modified golok including the sheath I made for it and the #2 I figure I have about $40 into the pair. I just had them out this week for some serious bushcraft practice and they did great. Mac

I've seen your Videos---:thumbup:

You have the experience and ability to get away with any choice you made(I mean that as a compliment--I wish I had your skill level and experience)

Thanks for posting an answer to the question

Dr.Bill
 
I want you to THINK about what you carry and why-based on facts --not emotion

But I don't want to think.:confused::D

Let's see, where I live I would want a hatchet for all but the best weather. I would take a Gerber/Fiskars hatchet at about 20-30 bucks. In nice weather a SAK Farmer is all I need at $19.
 
I'd had so many el cheapo knives in the past.... trust none of them up until I got a Blackjack Grunt (thanks to the recommendations here). Total cost for my new one a few weeks ago was $26 shipped.

If not that, then I have to say my ESEE Izula would be fine. Maybe a Bk-11.
 
"WHAT IS THE LEAST AMOUNT OF MONEY YOU NEED TO SPEND ON A KNIFE BEFORE YOU WOULD RISK YOUR LIFE ON IT NOT FAILING IN A WILDERNESS SETTING"???

Based strictly on price, an Old Hickory Butcher Knife http://www.ontarioknife.com/catalog/item/119
It looks like retail is about $8 and I know how tough they are. Many of the original "American outdoorsmen" carried a knife very similar to one of these and it served them well. It may not be my first choice but it would be the most cost effective.

It did serve them well---but they did not have the choices we do today.

I do not think most of them would pick that same knife if they had the choices we do today-say for less than $100.

But I would take an Old Hickory Butcher Knife over a Mora because it's full tang
 
The cost of the knife has no bearing on whether or not I'd choose it. I do agree that the where would have a big bearing on my choice. What I'd choose where I live isn't the same choice I'd make if I was in the jungle.

I think the whole "it has to be a full tang" is highly over-rated, but everyone has their own opinion and makes their own choices. Our ancestors survived just fine with stick tangs though they also often had a larger tool as well like an axe or hatchet.

I would probably feel a little better with something nicer than a Mora but I'd have no problems picking the Mora since this hypothetical is based on price. My next step up would be my Lauri Leuku.....I bought it as a blank and put the handle on it so I suppose the cost is about $40 not counting labor (the blank was $25).
 
Why all the hostility boys?? it's just a theoretical thread...
There's a few taboo's in the knife world. Speaking badly (or even less than glowingly) of Mora's is one of them.
Big no-no.

As for my choice: Scrap Yard Regulator ($99). Indestructable. Not a lightweight, but should be useful. :D
 
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