Lets see your Sanrenmus,Navys and Enlans

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the kid said:
I read more about the G704 and some other(s) had vertical play as well but most don't.
Expensive knives can have issues as well. If I buy a Benchmade from Ebay and it has or develops issues, I can't rely on warranty.
Buying from an other place is out of the question price wise, I have to pay double then.

I found another with an axis lock for only $9.SRM LB763
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It even has aluminum scales which I really like on a knife.
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To get something that cheap shipped halfway across the world they have to be using slave labor workers.
 
mmarkh said:
To get something that cheap shipped halfway across the world they have to be using slave labor workers.
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Perhaps.
But Spyderco, Buck and other brands also have knives build by the same company.
Just to put things in perspective.
 
the kid said:
You have a G704 you say, how do you like it?
How does the Axis lock compare to the Benchmade version?
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Flash900's experience is much like mine. The lock is a little gritty, there is very slight bladeplay in all directions, and I had the lock fail on me once. All of these may be solved with a good cleaning, but I don't plan on carrying the knife, so I haven't bothered.

I haven't had a chance to handle the HK / Benchmade 14205, but my Bone Collector is as smooth and sturdy as can be. Plus, its the real thing. Something I can really take pride in and with which I can make my friends green with envy. ;)
 
oxbld said:
Flash900's experience is much like mine. The lock is a little gritty, there is very slight bladeplay in all directions, and I had the lock fail on me once. All of these may be solved with a good cleaning, but I don't plan on carrying the knife, so I haven't bothered.

I haven't had a chance to handle the HK / Benchmade 14205, but my Bone Collector is as smooth and sturdy as can be. Plus, its the real thing. Something I can really take pride in and with which I can make my friends green with envy. ;)
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I know what you mean.. I already have one Sanremnu and although the knife isn't bad (for the price) somehow it does nothing for me.
Does any of you know if Benchmade still honors its warranty if you bought the knife at a non dealer (aka ebay?)
 
the kid said:
I read more about the G704 and some other(s) had vertical play as well but most don't.
Expensive knives can have issues as well. If I buy a Benchmade from Ebay and it has or develops issues, I can't rely on warranty.
Buying from an other place is out of the question price wise, I have to pay double then.

I found another with an axis lock for only $9.
SRM LB763
SANRENMU-SRM-Axis-Lock-Folding-Knife-LB-763.jpg

It even has aluminum scales which I really like on a knife.
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Why would you not be able to rely on Benchmade's warranty? I bought a 14205 off ebay with a bad axis lock. I could close it by pushing on the spine of the blade. I also got a Benchmade HD 13100 on ebay with severe vertical blade play. I sent them both to Benchmade and they fixed them no questions asked.
 
I absolutely love the BEGS (bee, enlan, ganzo, srm) knives. I've got a 939, el-01b, el-02, 704, 733. THESE are best knives for the money. They're way better than byrd as they're eithe ron par or better than byrd at a 1/3 the price. Everyone should get some! I can stop buying them since they're the best bang for your buck.
 
the kid said:
I read more about the G704 and some other(s) had vertical play as well but most don't.
Expensive knives can have issues as well. If I buy a Benchmade from Ebay and it has or develops issues, I can't rely on warranty.
Buying from an other place is out of the question price wise, I have to pay double then.

I found another with an axis lock for only $9.
SRM LB763
SANRENMU-SRM-Axis-Lock-Folding-Knife-LB-763.jpg

It even has aluminum scales which I really like on a knife.
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Just my experience, but just wanted to say that my 704 also has up/down blade play, but in terms of smoothness of axis locking, it is very smooth in mines. I was skeptical at first after reading comments on it, but once i got mines, it as way smooth. It's way smoother than the axis lock of the enlan el-02 BIG TIME. The el-02 is way stiff even after breaking it in for month.
 
nightman said:
Why would you not be able to rely on Benchmade's warranty? I bought a 14205 off ebay with a bad axis lock. I could close it by pushing on the spine of the blade. I also got a Benchmade HD 13100 on ebay with severe vertical blade play. I sent them both to Benchmade and they fixed them no questions asked.
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You are correct and I was mistaken.
I contacted Benchmade to ask about warranty when bought at a non authorized dealer and they said it doesn't matter, you still get warranty.
 
the kid said:
Perhaps.
But Spyderco, Buck and other brands also have knives build by the same company.
Just to put things in perspective.
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That is precisely why I won't buy China made knives, period. I love my Boulder built and Japanese Spydercos but that is where I draw the line. I would rather have just one nice knife than have large collections of sweatshop made knives. People say that's all they can afford but end up with many SRM knives. If you do the math it doesn't make sense.
 
mmarkh said:
That is precisely why I won't buy China made knives, period. I love my Boulder built and Japanese Spydercos but that is where I draw the line. I would rather have just one nice knife than have large collections of sweatshop made knives. People say that's all they can afford but end up with many SRM knives. If you do the math it doesn't make sense.
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Have to agree with that last part. If I bought any of these, it would be more out of curiosity than economic need. I can afford and do purchase many U.S. made knives, but the nature of my addiction makes it inevitable that I will want to try a design not made in the USA.

Some of these knives have really appealing designs, that do seem to be amalgamations of multiple other knives, but they still seem pretty good. I liken it to Rough Rider knives for traditionals, they are cheap enough that they allow me to try out different designs before I start buying the American made versions.
 
mmarkh said:
That is precisely why I won't buy China made knives, period. I love my Boulder built and Japanese Spydercos but that is where I draw the line. I would rather have just one nice knife than have large collections of sweatshop made knives. People say that's all they can afford but end up with many SRM knives. If you do the math it doesn't make sense.
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But all electronics are made in China as well, the PC you are using now has all parts made in China.
Your TV, toaster, etc. etc.

Why do you draw the line with knives?
 
mmarkh said:
That is precisely why I won't buy China made knives, period. I love my Boulder built and Japanese Spydercos but that is where I draw the line. I would rather have just one nice knife than have large collections of sweatshop made knives. People say that's all they can afford but end up with many SRM knives. If you do the math it doesn't make sense.
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it could be that they buy the different knives for different uses, theres not one blade design i know that can do everything better then another, whether it be penetration from a spanish bowie, or the tip strength of a wharncliff, they all differ.
 
mmarkh said:
That is precisely why I won't buy China made knives, period. I love my Boulder built and Japanese Spydercos but that is where I draw the line. I would rather have just one nice knife than have large collections of sweatshop made knives. People say that's all they can afford but end up with many SRM knives. If you do the math it doesn't make sense.
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Since Sal from Spyderco has talked about visiting their manufacturers to check them out and Spyderco has used SMR has a manufacturer, I seriously doubt it's sweatshop-like conditions. Either that, or by buying those Spydercos you talk about, you're supporting the company built by a man who not only visits sweatshops but ignores what they are!

Instead, he posted about value-for-a-dollar for manufacturing in each country on the Spyderco forum: http://www.spyderco.com/forums/showthread.php?p=546507&highlight=taiwan+japan#post546507:
$1.00 in the US:

Costs $1.35 to make something in Europe as the Euro is valued higher. Add shipping, duties, tooling costs, etc. which increases the cost.

Costs $1.20 to make something in Japan.

Costs about $.75 to make something in Taiwan.

Costs about $.30 to make something in Chnina.
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So, that SMR built in China selling for $9 is equivalent to a knife made in the US selling for $30. There are plenty of Case and Buck knives made in the US costing ~$30. That is difference inherent in the exchange between countries, not due to paying workers below a living wage.

If you have any actual evidence that SMR uses sweatshops, I'd be glad to hear it and would not buy any more.
 
the kid said:
I read more about the G704 and some other(s) had vertical play as well but most don't.
Expensive knives can have issues as well. If I buy a Benchmade from Ebay and it has or develops issues, I can't rely on warranty.
Buying from an other place is out of the question price wise, I have to pay double then.

I found another with an axis lock for only $9.
SRM LB763
SANRENMU-SRM-Axis-Lock-Folding-Knife-LB-763.jpg

It even has aluminum scales which I really like on a knife.
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That was one of my favorite knives! Used it for about 2 months until a bouncer at a club in San Diego accidentally "lost" it. I would get another, but I just don't have the patience to wait for 3 weeks for it to arrive.

Whoop! Just found one that ships from USA, it'll arrive soon :)
 
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