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I appreciate tradition, but at the same time I don’t have any use for the can opener. I doubt many do. Especially the typical one I see, perhaps the little wedge shaped kind with the stud opener would make for a decent scraper/reamer?
I personally wouldn’t want a lambs foot secondary on the 35 Scout.(they should make a 47 lambsfoot) I’d get the most use out of a small wharncliffe just like on my Coyote. Plus it would be able to sit nice and low, far better than a typical Sheepsfoot.
Anyways it’s just my idea for an updated scout I guess. I’ve passed on a number of scouts, and SAKS because I know there are tools I won’t use and that bothers me for some reason. If I got my hands on what I’ve described I’d use it everyday and all the tools would be put to use.
 
I can see Bill's point. A new blade shape would necessitate additional cost but I would hope that cost could be spread over several pattern releases. It is a very useful blade and if it caught on he could corner the market! ;):confused::) But then I'm just a consumer, so only guessing. ???
I like the lambsfoot, and think it would go well on certain patterns, but my problem is that I love the sheepfoot, and think GECs long pull sheepfoot is the best blade on any traditional currently being made.

If they do a lambsfoot, I'll be happy for something new, and will certainly get one, but would hate to see it replace the sheepfoot in any patterns where it has become standard.

But this is a very biased opinion coming from a sheepfoot enthusiast :)
 
It probably won’t be that much fun. It’ll be the Tidioute shield or the hotdog shield. :rolleyes:
Personally, I think the standard Tidioute shield is fine, but would be downright handsome without the text. Maybe enlarge the center diamond just a smidgen.
 
Does anyone know definitively what the difference is between the 53 pattern and the 54? They both seem to be 4 1/8 inches closed both equal end cigars. Some of the 53’s seem to have notches to accommodate lower sitting blades but not all of them. I have a couple 54’s and just got a northwoods presidential which on the production totals lists it as being on the 53 frame. It seems to be the exact same size and shape as the 54’s. I don’t get it.
 
Does anyone know definitively what the difference is between the 53 pattern and the 54? They both seem to be 4 1/8 inches closed both equal end cigars. Some of the 53’s seem to have notches to accommodate lower sitting blades but not all of them. I have a couple 54’s and just got a northwoods presidential which on the production totals lists it as being on the 53 frame. It seems to be the exact same size and shape as the 54’s. I don’t get it.
The 54 has half stops and the 53 doesn't.
 
The 54 has half stops and the 53 doesn't.
Oh. Makes sense but I thought the frame number referred only to the shape of the frame and the orientation of the blades within it, like when they flip the main blade and give it a different frame number. I never knew it would refer to half stops as well. Do you know if there are others like that?
 
Personally, I think the standard Tidioute shield is fine, but would be downright handsome without the text. Maybe enlarge the center diamond just a smidgen.

I hate the Tidioute shield, I don’t own a single GEC with it. The shape isn’t terrible, though, I agree with that.
 
Oh. Makes sense but I thought the frame number referred only to the shape of the frame and the orientation of the blades within it, like when they flip the main blade and give it a different frame number. I never knew it would refer to half stops as well. Do you know if there are others like that?
The only other patterns that I can think of are the 25's and 26's but those are also flipped like you mentioned. The 25's have half stops but the 26's don't.

To add to the confusion, the 35 Calf Pens have half stops but the 35 Churchills don't.shrug.gif
 
Oh. Makes sense but I thought the frame number referred only to the shape of the frame and the orientation of the blades within it, like when they flip the main blade and give it a different frame number. I never knew it would refer to half stops as well. Do you know if there are others like that?
55 has half stops 56 does not
same frame - different shaped tangs
Different model numbers makes for an easier identification, for consumers with a half/stop preference.
 
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Seems like frame and half stops or not should be independent. Isn't it due to the shape of the tang and the spring? Is there any difference in the frame?
 
Seems like frame and half stops or not should be independent. Isn't it due to the shape of the tang and the spring? Is there any difference in the frame?
Correct. In the case of the 53/54 and the 55/56 that James mentioned, the frames are identical. The only difference is the half stops/no half stops which relates to the shape of the tang.

I don't know about the springs. Would they need to be different?
 
Correct. In the case of the 53/54 and the 55/56 that James mentioned, the frames are identical. The only difference is the half stops/no half stops which relates to the shape of the tang.

I don't know about the springs. Would they need to be different?
I’m almost positive the spring is the same. The area where the half stop would sit is just rounded so that the spring remains raised until it is fully open or closed so it is never flush in the halfway position. It’s only the tang that’s different.
 
So while watching YouTube videos on GEC recent releases I heard the following:

1) GEC invested in new CNC blade grind machine(s) and possibly some other equipment to increase production.

2) the 15 and 44 run may be the first to feature the new CNC blades

3) 2017 was a transition year for staff and 2018 features new staff that are able to turn out top quality knives in larger quantities.

With all these changes I’m really hoping to see some splitback whittlers in 2019. And maybe that camp knife some of you guys are dreaming about.

If I misspoke about any of these please correct me.

These all sound like positive changes.
 
I like the lambsfoot, and think it would go well on certain patterns, but my problem is that I love the sheepfoot, and think GECs long pull sheepfoot is the best blade on any traditional currently being made.

If they do a lambsfoot, I'll be happy for something new, and will certainly get one, but would hate to see it replace the sheepfoot in any patterns where it has become standard.

But this is a very biased opinion coming from a sheepfoot enthusiast :)
You will like the Lambfoot just as well as Sheepfoot Ryan . I don't find much difference at all with the exception being on my old TEW Lambfoot the blade is actually tipped down in relation to the handle . They both are IMO better than a Clip , Spade , or Drop Point .

Harry
 
I may not be carrying any GEC knives this month, but that doesn't mean I'm not buying any. :D

Here are a couple new-to-me #15 Harness Jacks (HJ7) that I picked up this past week.

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I thought for a minute these were my first Northfield #15's, but I was forgetting about Charlie's Rope Knives!

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I also have a Dead Skunk Acrylic #14 on the way. :thumbsup:
 
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