LIN aka (KAI ZHAO) Issue resolved

[JR88FAN]

Here is where your story becomes really suspicious. You found the damage to the knife while you were here in the USA and opened it? But you took the knife home to China anyway?

Sorry, but that does NOT look good for you! :foot: It looks really suspicious, like maybe you broke the tip off the knife after getting back to China, and tried to con Bobby into fixing it for you. :thumbdn:

What you need to do at this point is DROP THE PAYPAL CLAIM, as Bobby seems to be bending over backwards to make this right for you.

Bobby did NOT ask you to take it up with the knifemaker, but suggested that instead, it might be faster and easier for you to ship it straight to him to be fixed. He was TRYING TO HELP YOU!

Well done, and this is where it turns into BS.

This thread should be enough to get PP to reverse their decision (Hail Mary) and Lin has just banned himself.
Gonna be hard to do anything on BF but read....

 

[LIN]

you can try to put a pointy knife with bubble in box,and ship it.
see what happened.

I am not foolish to make a hole.
and do all this just for $1200? that is a joke.
And I buy one knife just for damage it and get it returned? another big joke.

 

[SpyderPhreak]

you can try to put a pointy knife with bubble in box,and ship it.
see what happened.

I am not foolish to make a hole.
and do all this just for $1200? that is a joke.
And I buy one knife just for damage it and get it returned? another big joke.

You are claiming that Bobby did not ship the knife in the sheath (leather, presumably), as he has claimed? You're telling us that he simply wrapped it in bubble wrap and put it into a box? That is not what he claims.

 

[Nfd538]

all I do,is just want to slove the problem.

No you don't. Your hiding in China trying to scam 🖕

The seller wants to solve the problem.

 

[Peter Hartwig]

The language bearer isn't helping much:
Lin -are you saying that the damage happened between the seller and your US location. If so why didn't you notify him with all he needed to file an insurance claim. He had insurance on the package(pretty sure he said that). If it didn't happen between the seller and your US address, then it is your responsibility.

 

[Thomas Linton]

This is what he is posting now. This could have been done today. That is why I did not ask for more pics. If these were done at that time, he would have sent them????????
If I was hiding anything, I would not post these. Too easy to shoot after the fact. This is the first I have seen of these. This makes me suspicious.
Plus no pics of the sheath that I sent it in ;-)

So this is the hole in the box his agent used to forward the knife? Just do not get how this is your problem.

 

[Nfd538]

I do not always in US, working between US and China.
And my man received the package for me during I was work at China, keeping it unopened
when I back open the box and find this, email Bobby about the staff.

first email replied, sending back to him,and he ask knifemaker to fixed, was acceptable for me.
but following email, asking me solve the problem myself with knifemaker , suspect with my honest and taking him all out of the responsebility , is not work for me.
I have to go Paypal.
during this I take all the knives which bought from BF back to China, with the problem unsolved, I can not leave it to others, I take it with me.
it is not easy take knife in or out China, I think ask partly refund is more convience, since Bobby ask return, I try to ship it out.
Now it is on the way back to Bobby.

all I do,is just want to slove the problem.

you can try to put a pointy knife with bubble in box,and ship it.
see what happened.

I am not foolish to make a hole.
and do all this just for $1200? that is a joke.
And I buy one knife just for damage it and get it returned? another big joke.

Your a damn joke. Your fake holes are joke. Your scam is a joke. Your country is joke 🖕

 

[-Corey-]

If you took receipt of knife. and then inturn took it out of USA
Thats your baby now in my eyes..

Yep, If you took possession of the knife at the address the seller shipped to and noticed damage there, you should've contacted the seller immediately so that he could file an insurance claim. The actions you took will more than likely prevent that from being possible now.

I'm not sure what USPS policy is, but a while back I was working out of state and had ordered a knife and had it shipped to my home address because I had family there to receive the package and I was going to be home the following weekend. Well the package got delayed and I ended up having to leave again for work before it arrived and didn't get back home until a month later and realized the box was empty. The knife had been lost/stolen during transit and that was the reason for the delay in the first place, USPS covered that claim after a month had already passed. But now with the knife leaving the country and being shipped back into the country, who knows.

 

[LIN]

Here is where your story becomes really suspicious. You found the damage to the knife while you were here in the USA and opened it? But you took the knife home to China anyway?

Sorry, but that does NOT look good for you! :foot: It looks really suspicious, like maybe you broke the tip off the knife after getting back to China, and tried to con Bobby into fixing it for you. :thumbdn:

What you need to do at this point is DROP THE PAYPAL CLAIM, as Bobby seems to be bending over backwards to make this right for you.

Bobby did NOT ask you to take it up with the knifemaker, but suggested that instead, it might be faster and easier for you to ship it straight to him to be fixed. He was TRYING TO HELP YOU!

the information I received in the second email, is that he said it was I drop it on the groud and get it damaged. and ask me to go knifemaker.
As I see , this is enough for go to paypal.

and you may find, I get lots of knives here, I do not stay in US for long every time, I fly to US, take all these knives, and get them back to China.
I do not want to say it, but that is what I do for work.
several members I deal lots of times , may know this.

And what you suggest I to do?
let others deal with the problem, or hanging in US wait the problem solved.
both not suitable for me.
Maybe when next time I back to NH,and send it back from NH would be better for someone,will be ship back from the paypal address.
that would take more long time.
just not notice the address would be such a huge problem.

And I find there is some Boby fans here saying I make the hole.
I don't want to explain it.
sorry for not knowing who Bobby is.

The case is being on Paypal and the knife is on the way back.
when Bobby confirm receiving the knife,it would be all fine.
By the way, $1200 is really not so much attractive to me.

 

[cigarrodog]

你被你的行为造成自己莫大的耻辱。你不觉得关心别人？它不是来不及做正确的事情。

Lin. You are causing yourself great shame by your actions. Do you not care what others think? It is not too late to do the right thing.

 

[LIN]

You are claiming that Bobby did not ship the knife in the sheath (leather, presumably), as he has claimed? You're telling us that he simply wrapped it in bubble wrap and put it into a box? That is not what he claims.

yes, sheath is put aside in the box ,knife is in bubble, not in the sheath.
that is what I keep saying unproper packing.
finally , someone find what I mean.

 

[Bobby Branton]

Well, I am going to bed. If PP rules in my favor, he will have to recall the FedEx shipment. If not, the knife will arrive at my address around the 20th. It is obvious he does not want me to help him. If the knife is in good shape other than the broken tip, PP will debit my account whether I want them to do it or not. At least I will have the knife. I'll await their decision once again. I would be afraid to ship it to the NH address again since he does not live there.
BB

 

[Bobby Branton]

That is not true. You have shown your true colors. PP will decide.

yes, sheath is put aside in the box ,knife is in bubble, not in the sheath.
that is what I keep saying unproper packing.
finally , someone find what I mean.

 

[braillediver]

Delivered on July 31, 2016 and No Mention of a problem until August 20, 2016- during which time you took the knife to China?

A reasonable person would of contacted the Seller immediately upon receipt of a damaged $1200 knife. It would of only taken a minute.

A reasonable person would of resolved \ shipped it back while still in the USA. Damaged- Back into the sheath- back into the box- return shipping.

$1200 is really not so much attractive to me.

Funny you keep saying this- if true you would of just sent the knife to the maker to be fixed since it's no big deal.

 

[tek77]

I am surprised paypal sided with the buyer. He lied by omitting the knife is going to china. Who knows what happens to a package during the jurney, especially when it goes through customs. And his claim was 3 weeks late??? Soo many red flags....and paypal still sided with this guy?

Obviously Paypal has a buyer oriented policy.

That's a good reason to accept only paypal 'friends' option when you don't know who you are dealing with.

I personally would stay away from paypal alltogether if I could.

Thank you for the heads up.

Have you ever spoken to someone at PP ??
I got one of there representitives and she had to go to three different supervisors to finally get them to rule in my favor. Then without contacting me, they rule in his favor on his appeal.

What pisses me off is, number one, the packages was fully insured. Number two, offered to have the knife fixed anyway because I am a good guy. Number three absolutely no response when I questioned him as to where he lived, who repackaged the knife and why he waited so long to contact me.

 

[LIN]

You are claiming that Bobby did not ship the knife in the sheath (leather, presumably), as he has claimed? You're telling us that he simply wrapped it in bubble wrap and put it into a box? That is not what he claims.

he do not mention it when I emailed him.
and just see he claimed here, so I ask if it is packed by himself.
because I thought someone like him,should know how to pack the knife well.

 

[Nfd538]

and you may find, I get lots of knives here, I do not stay in US for long every time, I fly to US, take all these knives, and get them back to China.
I do not want to say it, but that is what I do for work.
several members I deal lots of times , may know this.

The case is being on Paypal and the knife is on the way back.
when Bobby confirm receiving the knife,it would be all fine.
By the way, $1200 is really not so much attractive to me.

If buying/selling knives is what you do for work you SUCK at it. And consider your "work" done here on BF.

Yeah sure it's all fine. No it's not your still a scam artist.

 

[LIN]

That is not true. You have shown your true colors. PP will decide.

Bobby, I emailed you this at my first email.
I said clearly the knife is not in sheath, just in bubble paper,that make the top damaged.
that is why I think you should take response for the damage.
that is the MOST IMPORTANT thing I email you ,saying it is unproper packing.
And you never mentioned it is wrong and you put it in sheath , when you reply me in email.
Now you said IT IS NOT TRUE.

I get nothing else to say.
let paypal do the judge.

 

[Esav Benyamin]

Listen up! This is a business deal gone wrong. It is not a personal dispute. I do not want to see any more personal insults especially from bystanders.

 

[scrappy]

For a knife worth 1200 dollars pictures should have been taken and sent before the knife ever left the country.
Both people have a history here on bf and I could have and would have trusted either. But from a business stance, if the knife left the country before I saw any pictures of the issue I would not have confidence in the claim. If the package was delivered damaged. Pictures and communication should have been sent fairly quickly. If the box is visibly damaged its smart to take a picture before opening the box also.