Lon Humphrey Knives ~ Info & Pics Wanted

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Loving the discussion here! And excited for a knife to fit the usages that everyone's been naming. I have several larger and medium sized fixed blades, but definitely nothing pocket friendly. I also just got a streamlight micro stream that's really great and doing to be a good fit for the second sheath pocket.

Just got my tracking number so stay tuned! I love tracking numbers!
 
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I thought I'd give a fixed blade a go awhile back and decided to err on the small size to start things off - getting an EDC in 52100 - by a good maker that does a really excellent heat-treat; but in the end, despite all the "dazzle" the knife is simply too small and I never carry it, finding it rather awkward even given my medium-ish hand-size (the dimensions are actually bigger/longer than the Whitetail). After some experimenting, I've found that at least 3 inches of cutting edge and no less than 6.5 inches in OAL (ideally around 7.5) best fits my needs and hands. Personal and subjective, yes, but my 2-cents on the matter. I've really enjoyed some of Matt Bailey's larger offerings as well as larger knives by Joshua Gallardo. As Jake can attest as well, Leif Lambertson is also making excellent knives. All three are are, IMHO, reasonably priced and great in terms of both form and function. That said, if the Whitetail design came in a 3.25 inch blade - I couldn't resit that fantastic Brute de Forge style :)

Final point, I should add that both of the Baileys fit pretty nicely in the KSF Allegheny Pocket Sheath...
 
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The Whitetail is precisely the length of an opened Case Swayback Jack.

I don't have a problem handling either and my hands are at least medium sized.

I respect differing opinions though. :)
 
It's funny, the smallish size of a slip-joint doesn't bother me at all (I have one that's 2 5/8 and really like it), but if a fixed is small, it just doesn't compute for me. I think my mind has been trained to be "ok" with a slip-joint's size, but given my camping, travel, and kitchen experiences (all environments in which larger knives are used), I've been conditioned, so to speak, to "expect more" of a fixed blade - that it be larger, fit the hand more fully etc. Despite what I feel are genuine ergonomic issues, I think a good bit or the problem for me is psychological.

**Added pic of a Bailey (7.75 inches) and an Ebony #77. The Bailey, despite its length compared to the Whitetail, doesn't protrude too much, in fact, I think it's draws out perfectly and is minimally visible, if at all, in the pocket. Anyway, just some added info - I'm a big believer that a slightly larger knife can fit very nicely into an EDC role.






Here's a shot in-pocket (with the pocket closed more full, it wouldn't be visible, but I wanted to open the pocket a bit to show where the knife sits):

 
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I've been conditioned, so to speak, to "expect more" of a fixed blade - that it be larger, fit the hand more fully etc. Despite what I feel are genuine ergonomic issues, I think a good bit or the problem for me is psychological.

Great point David and yes - I think most of us automatically think HUNTING knife and associate that with fixed blades knives. Being a man, that often converts to big bad knife ! :D:D

A very important point that I forgot up till now is that the Humphrey knives vary in size, some more than you might think. On the KSF website, the measured length is posted with each knife in specs and they can vary more than one might think. Probably because they are hammer forged instead of stamped blades. All four of the Whitetails that I ordered were listed at 5.7 inches, but, I saw a few that were listed that were quite a bit shorter, one at 5.38 inches.

While I am content with the length of mine, IMO, the 5.38 inch one would have been smaller than desired, so something to watch out for. ;);):)

In comparison, the Muley I got is 6.7 inches long and while it is comfortable, after carrying both (in the same dual scabbard) I have given the nod to the Whitetail for being more comfortable in the pocket, especially when sitting. The difference in the two is that the longer Muley is mostly in the handle.

If Lon decided to make the Whitetail at around 6.0 or 6.2, that might make a great little knife even better, but, I personally would hate to see it grow any larger because it might sacrifice comfort in the pocket.

I use my block full of Wusthof Classic kitchen knives nearly daily, and they range from 3" blade paring knife size to a very large and long 10" blade chef's knife. They all do certain things better than others in a kitchen. The largest knife is great for quartering a watermelon. The four that gets the most use is the paring knife (smallest), small boning knife, 7" Santoku knife, and the 8" Chef's knife. The curved blade 2.75" bird's beak excels at peeling veggies. Then the bread knife excels at cutting bread. The tomato knife excels at tomato slicing. The paring knife is easiest to maneuver when removing skin from a chicken, etc. Sorry to bring all that up, but, I wanted to make a point that often a smaller blade proves to be even more useful than large ones. :)

My mother and her sister (now passed) were fantastic cooks and cooked large dinners probably five nights a week. Think of grandma's cooking when I tell you this. Meat, plenty of vegetables, and often homemade rolls or biscuits. They spent a lot of time in a kitchen and using knives. Both of them owned about three carbon steel knives each. A larger meat slicer, a medium boning knife, and a paring knife. Most often, the paring knife was in their hand and the blades were well used looking. Lucky for me that when they cooked like that, I was much younger and had a faster metabolism. :D
 
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Good point Primble! Thanks for bringing it up.

I was looking at whitetails on a few different sites, and not all of them measure each one, and instead give you approximate measurements. I was emailing one site asking for specific measurements, and one whitetail that they had in stock was 4.75 inches! Wow that's small! I ended up ordering one at 5.7 inches as well. Hoping that it's a good length for me. That's a little longer than my spyderco dragonfly, which is a really handy little knife!
 
Roberto, you bought four Whitetails?! :eek: Do you plan on wearing them out that fast?! :eek: I should cancel my order and you could be a buddy ole pal and send me one of yours! ;):confused::D
 
When ordering mine the length certainly came into play. I appreciate how KSF had specific lengths while other sites only had a general listing. The second thing that made it interesting in picking one was the shape of the blade (this may have already been covered). I had to narrow done to the longest, most full blade, and in a handle I found aesthetically pleasing. Honestly though, I like how each is unique, but agree with Primble a full 6 or 6.2 would be nice, though I would be tempted to buy another.
 
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Yeah, I stared at those pictures for hours! So cool how each blade has it's own uniqueness and nuances. I was looking for something with a nice, uniform overall curve to it. I actually used a random number generator online to help me choose from my list of finalists!
 
Brett,

I'm a bit late to the discussion and unfortunatly haven't got any pics to post. However, I'd like to add my $.02 on a few items. First is my Whitetail is my most carried and used small fixed blade. It may in fact be the one pictured in the link from Modoc ED. I got it off the exchange. I carry it in the pocket sheath as posted, along with a 72 Scout. As mentioned by others, the workman ship and feel are fantastic. The maple has aged well and could use a good oiling. For such a short knife the spine is quite thick but tapers nicely. I've used it as a fool prep knife and many other daily around the house/yard tasks. Due to the short blade, other 'kitchen' knives are much better IMO for food prep but the Humphrey's works great on garlic, small veggies, and limes. I've used it quite a bit as a dinner knife as it is so handly.

Last weekend, I spent an afternoon de-barking, removing the branch stumps, and smoothing out a walking stick for my friend's son. Early on, I switched back and forth between the 73 and the Whitetail. Then used the Whitetail non-stop for the next 2 hours. I didn't sharpen it for the entire time and it performed very well.

Over all, it is a great, handly little knife. Two things are worth pointing out. The handle is short and ends just beyond the center of my med-large palm. The end of the handle is very smooth but isn't rounded so I was beginning to notice it after whittling on the walking stick. The finger guard Lon creates is exceptional! It is hard to explain how it adds to the control and feel. It fits very well in the pocket sheath however one thing that bothers me is the sheath turns to the side in my back pocket when I'm walking around.

Finally, I'm in Hillsboro, OR for two days so I stopped by KSF yesterday specifically to look at the latest Humphery's. Nathan was in the shop and he was great at letting me try out a few knives. I left my Whitetail at home for the trip so I couldn't do a side-by-side. Primble is right on the money with his comments. The new Whitetail in Coco seemed smaller than mine so it is likely one of the shorter ones. Beautiful knife but I don't think it would be as comfortable to use for long periods of time. I much prefer the new blade shapes to the one I have but won't part with mine. The Muley's we're more comfortable in my hand but they lose a bit on the ease of fit in the pocket. Leaving the shop without one of the Muley's took incredible self-control. It s a good thing I didn't ask to see one if the longer Whitetails.

I hope my rambling helps. Sorry for the lack of pics, someday I'll get it set up so I can contribute more to this great group. Bret, if you are still in the fence and have any more questions let me know.

Blair
 
Excellent review Blair, Thank you.

How does the blade hold up to moisture since it is 1095 Carbon? I think that when a steel is hammer forged like Lon's are, it tightens the molecules in the steel so there is less porosity. Not sure, just basing it on a hammer forged horseshoe knife I've had for 8 years.
 
Ok... I don't have enough time to really tell you why I have loved my whitetail so much, but I will tell you that as I go through the collection and sell knifes... I have passed over this knife to sell others dozens of times in the last 2 years. Why? Size, usefulness, comfort, stupid sharpness and rugged hammered look that comes from a true craftsman. ON a side note... Anybody who hammers a knife by hand deserves my business. Here is mine next the much missed TC I let go. :-(

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Thanks for sharing Todd. Do you have a picture of the knife after being used or has that one been used? Thank you.

ps Primble loves that Soup Bone ;)
 
Markesharp,

No issues with moisture. I dry it well after clean up. The use has started a nice patina.

Blair
 
As I've never posted pics, I'm the last one who should ask this, but please post pics when it arrives!
 
I am going to go SO picture crazy when mine arrives on Thursday or Friday. You guys are gonna be begging me to stop posting!
 
As I've never posted pics, I'm the last one who should ask this, but please post pics when it arrives!

Just checked the tracking and it will be here Thursday along with my BR Adventurer II. I will post pic's for sure.

I am going to go SO picture crazy when mine arrives on Thursday or Friday. You guys are gonna be begging me to stop posting!

You're gonna post a lot of pic's! ;)
 
Roberto, you bought four Whitetails?! :eek: Do you plan on wearing them out that fast?! :eek: I should cancel my order and you could be a buddy ole pal and send me one of yours! ;):confused::D

I bought two Cocobolo Whitetails, one Ebony Whitetail that I sent to Stephen, and one Cocobolo Muley. You sound like my son used to sound. My money and stuff was his and his money and stuff was his ! ;):D:D:D

Ok... I don't have enough time to really tell you why I have loved my whitetail so much, but I will tell you that as I go through the collection and sell knifes... I have passed over this knife to sell others dozens of times in the last 2 years. Why? Size, usefulness, comfort, stupid sharpness and rugged hammered look that comes from a true craftsman. ON a side note... Anybody who hammers a knife by hand deserves my business. Here is mine next the much missed TC I let go. :-(

Todd - the knife pictured is a Muley I believe, but, it looks great ! My soupbone looks nice in the scabbard with the Whitetail. ;):D:D:D

I am going to go SO picture crazy when mine arrives on Thursday or Friday. You guys are gonna be begging me to stop posting!

Nice review and post em up ! :thumbup::thumbup::D

I have the Humphrey Whitetail and my brown stag Case Damascus bladed Seahorse whittler in the scabbard today. All the blades a man would ever need, short of a bare killin' !!! :D:D

Speakin' of pics:

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