Member: "GotDogs" problems with a trade, member backed out after shipping knives

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I am posting this topic to record what has happened in a transaction between myself and "GotDogs".

The original trade was my 2 knives (Spyderco Military and Spyderco Gayle Bradley) for this member's zero tolerance (0551).

After we both agreed to a trade, all of our knives being LNIB condition, we sent them out and should both be getting them in tomorrow.

I made the mistake of listing the 0551 for trade along with another zero tolerance knife I had. I do not yet have the 0551 in my possession and just looked up the rule that says I cannot post unless I have the knife right away.

"GotDogs" found this post and emailed me, saying he is concerned. I replied saying not to worry because I have plenty of feedback to warrant me not ripping off another member for a kershaw knife when I've had plenty of deals that went in 4 digit dollars.

He told me to refuse his package tomorrow and he will do the same. I refused that because I do not wish to wait another 4 days to get knives back. I gave him two options:

  1. Accept the package, check condition of knives. if not satisfied, I will pay return shipping
  2. Paypal me $6 because I cannot refuse a package, as it is automatically put in my box. I cannot babysit my box for the carrier to arrive.

"GotDogs" refused both of these options and proceeded to email mods, and tell me I am scamming him.

As mentioned before, we are to be receiving both our sides of the deal tomorrow or the day after, and he is simply backing out on the grounds of "suspicion".

I accepted the mistake that I have made of posting a day before I received his knife, however he is not a mod and I expect the mods to handle this situation rather than a member.
 
Really?? Too funny. You didnt mention the part where you told me that it wasnt the knife I am sending you. That you meant to post a ZT0550. 4 emails later, you than admit that YOU LIED TO ME. As you dont ahve a 0550 to trade which is why you than closed the Ad / thread. Are you serious?? Here is a link, note that it has been deleted. : http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...knives-he-doesnt-have?p=10559175#post10559175



how does that affect your particular trade with him?

he made a mistake, i understand that, but the trade that you guys made was legitimate right?

what you're doing is no better than what he did if you are refusing a trade that's already done...

please feel to correct me if i missed something here. karma works in mysterious ways...
 
I do believe that deals are not done until both members are happy with it. If for some reason one party isn't happy then the deal gets reversed.
I don't see a problem.
 
"GotDogs", I do believe we both have a topic for this situation. Please post in your respective topic as I have not flooded yours with multiple replies. I only posted this thread to record the situation for the mods.

I do not plan on refusing your package or sending you your knife back unless there is something wrong with the knives I sent you. You have not received them yet so please do me a favor and check them once the carrier hands you the package.

I admitted to making a mistake however I in no way "scammed" you by posting your knife a day early.
 
so he pulled the trigger to early with the knife you sent him, a mistake , we all make them , i don't see why not wait for his knives and if he kept his word there move on, just my view from the information you both provided if i misunderstood , sorry. W e all ff up sometimes.
 
i hear you the first time bro , he ff up but he did sent you the knives from the trade deal , no??, he admitted the lie no?? so he knows now he ff up is all i'm saying.
 
He didnt make a mistake? He lied to me, I asked if the knife he was offering was the knife I am sending him ( ZT0051). He said NO, that it was a typo and that he meant to post a ZT0550. He doesnt / didnt have a 0550 for trade, it was MY knife he was offering up. He later admitted that he LIED. If you choose to do business with LIARS that is on you. I choose not to.


i never said that he didnt make a mistake.

maybe you should re-read what i wrote. let's face it you're not as innocent as you constantly claim to be...

my only experience with you was when the mods issued you a warning for damn near ruining my sales thread. that and the profanity filled emails you sent even after being warned. i kept thinking of how childish and hypocritical you were (preaching about humility lol).

i should copy and paste some of the trash you sent to my personal email address. perhaps mods would reconsider any sympathetic feelings..

that's my two pennies. i'm sure people will side with you based on forum rules, but don't act like a saint because you've broken rules in the very recent past yourself john...
 
I'm sorry but I have to side with SnowCrash on this one. Even if he did lie about putting up GotDog's knife in trade, how does that change the actual trade? Did he not send the knives he promised?

GotDog keeps mentioning that SnowCrash lied. I don't see how that is relevant to the actual trade. Now, if SnowCrash did not send the promised knives, then we have a problem.

Just my two cents.
 
He didnt make a mistake? He lied to me, I asked if the knife he was offering was the knife I am sending him ( ZT0051). He said NO, that it was a typo and that he meant to post a ZT0550. He doesnt / didnt have a 0550 for trade, it was MY knife he was offering up. He later admitted that he LIED. If you choose to do business with LIARS that is on you. I choose not to.

Why do you even care what he does with the knife you sent to him, as long as he sent you the knives you both agreed he would? You come across as overly controlling, and I'll never make a trade with you because I consider traded for knives mine to do with as I please.
 
I do believe that deals are not done until both members are happy with it. If for some reason one party isn't happy then the deal gets reversed.
I don't see a problem.

to my knowledge there were no lies or bs in the particular deal that they made. i just don't see how snowcrash's mistake affects their trade....

oh wait, that's because it doesn't.
 
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