Mick Strider has some explaining to do.

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Hahaha.

When Mick did his whirlwind tour of the 2/75, SOCOM, as we know it today, didn't exist yet.

Besides, the operative verb in that portion of the allocution, under penalty of perjury mind you, is participated. The verb is not about the Rangers participating in SOCOM, but rather Mogadishu Mick not participating in SOCOM.

So in fact, the allocution is a little more damning when viewed in context. When Mick was in the Army, SOCOM didn't exist. At the time of his admission in the TAG lawsuit, it did, he wasn't in the Army, or eligible to be in the Army, and he disavowed having been a part of SOCOM while it currently existed.

Since he could have only been a part of it after SOCOM was in fact formed, he was not ever a part of it, by his own admission, coming and going, even as the Rangers were included in it at its inception after Mick was shown the door.
 
OK, thanks all. We are still getting unlikely, unprobable, probably not, but no evidence, nothing to say it isn't so.

I have known people who spent time in the jungle as "trainers" during this time period also, training isn't all that happens.

For the record, and those that may pass this thread in the future, there has been nothing proven here. Maybe it is unrealistic to expect proof in the real world, but you need something to build on besides a bunch of lies. All documentation provided goes to a military career as stated. The witch hunt here is built on a pile of speculation and lies. I have asked for proof, and all I get is the same speculation thrown back at me. No matter how many times you repeat it, it is not true unless you can back it.

It really turns my stomach to see this held up as a Veteran issue. From what I can see, Mick carries himself as a veteran pretty good these days. He has had trouble in the past, but nothing that deserves this kind of attention and outright hate.

Spark,
Every veteran I've talked to, and who has chimed in on this thread, states the exact same thing.
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This is dismissing the veterans that have chimed in here and disagreed with you (present company included).

It appears that the leaders of this particular inquisition don't care if there is proof or not, just use a preconceived notion and run. As such, I am going to step away from this and not monitor this thread any more. I do try and judge individuals on their actions, and this has given me plenty to judge some people on. If you want me to see something, you will need to use the PM or e-mail buttons, please respect me enough to do so if you have a comment you wish me to see.

--Carl
 
Buh-bye. If a confession to settle a court proceeding isn't enough proof for you, then nothing will be.
 
You have got to be kidding me. You have GOT to be kidding me. It's like this thread, only 7 years earlier.
 
Bohica2u said:
Obviously, "Mike" was a poser who had "11 knife kills and 70 sniper kills" and teaching Marines.

Mick learned how to drink beer from skulls, instead of blood, like Mikey.................
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Funny, Mick seems to have a lot of friends like that.

I even got to meet two at the Strider booth at SHOT. I guess I have to figure out if they were fakes too. Anyone ever heard of the names "Mawhinney" and "Marcinko"? :)
 
I think Mawhinney and Marcinko can actually back up their service records and will do so. Why isn't Mick?
 
NousDefions said:
My God, I'd give two paychecks to witness you roll up to Chuck and Richard asking to see their military credentials.
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Are you seriously saying that I'm questioning their service records? Are you really that desperate to shift attention away from Mick Strider?

Let me spell it out for you: Mick Strider standing next to Richard Marcinko does not make Mick Strider any more authentic. Do not steal the service of what one man has done, to cover the misdeeds of another.

I'll take your money, gladly, though. I'll be at SHOT 2008. If Chuck Mawhinney and / or Marcinko are there, I'll gladly step up to them and ask what their service dates are, and what class they were in. I wager neither one of them will have a single issue volunteering that info. Instantly.

Let's see how much integrity you have, Mr 2 Paychecks. You willing to put that money in escrow with a lawyer?
 
Let's see how much integrity you have, Mr 2 Paychecks. You willing to put that money in escrow with a lawyer?
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Two times zero is still zero. Just a reminder.:D
 
Spark said:
Let me spell it out for you: Mick Strider standing next to Richard Marcinko does not make Mick Strider any more authentic. Do not steal the service of what one man has done, to cover the misdeeds of another.
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No, but it does mean that MANY actual Special Operations servicemen have made up their own minds about what kind of man Mr. Strider is based on their own personal observations of his character... and not the comings and goings of an internet messageboard. Myself included.

Again, I thank you for your service and apologize for derailing your thread.

Spark said:
I'll take your money, gladly, though. I'll be at SHOT 2008. If Chuck Mawhinney and / or Marcinko are there, I'll gladly step up to them and ask what their service dates are, and what class they were in. I wager neither one of them will have a single issue volunteering that info. Instantly.

Let's see how much integrity you have, Mr 2 Paychecks. You willing to put that money in escrow with a lawyer?
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I think, sir, that you have a problem with taking yourself a little too seriously.

Have fun at SHOT.
 
Hey now, there are similarities:

Richard Marcinko was in Red Cell.

Mick was in Fed Cell.
 
NousDefions said:
No, but it does mean that MANY actual Special Operations servicemen have made up their own minds about what kind of man Mr. Strider is based on their own personal observations of his character... and not the comings and goings of an internet messageboard. Myself included.

Again, I thank you for your service and apologize for derailing your thread.
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So this means I won't be collecting your money at SHOT 2008? That's too bad, I was going to buy something nice with it.

As for the rest of your statement, well, it's amazing how people's views change when something happens.
 
Now I found out that Mick is a RETIRED combat vet.................:jerkit: :jerkit: :jerkit:

>>>>www.strategypage.com/htmw/htweap/articles/20040110.aspx

January 10, 2004
Folding combat knives are replacing bayonets for many American combat troops. U.S soldiers carried a multitude of civilian manufactured folding knives into combat during the war in Iraq. Among the favorites were the Karambit, a hook shaped folding blade with lengths varying between two to four inches, weighing 3.5 to 3.8 oz.. and with an outside edge and tapered inside edge. attached to an alloy or polymer injection molded handle with an index finger ring. Developed in Indonesia during the 12th Century as a utility knife, it is known to have killed at least one an Iraqi who tried to grab an American soldier's weapon. The soldier's unit received training on the use of the Karambit as a personal defense tool, and it paid off as the peculiar shaped knife can easily inflict a lethal wound. These knives are fairly expensive, costing $240 and up.

Other folding knives are more conventional in shape. Many Marines favored Strider knives, designed and manufactured by retired combat veterans. The Strider knives were noted for their durability and every member of the new Marine commando unit (Special Operations unit Detachment One) received a specially designed Strider knife called the SMF.


Soooooo, all those different authors made up the combat history of Mick? At different times and years? Obviously Mick provided false information to them.
 
Spark said:
So this means I won't be collecting your money at SHOT 2008? That's too bad, I was going to buy something nice with it.

As for the rest of your statement, well, it's amazing how people's views change when something happens.
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No, regrettably I won't be able to attend SHOT next year.

It's also amazing how people's views change due to the power of forgiveness.

ND, out.
 
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