Mick Strider has some explaining to do.

[Thomas Linton]

EVERYONE is in that same category on the internet!

Fashionably cynical and incorrect in my experience, and the experience of many here.

They dont use their real names, they dont use their real personal historys, and they dont tell the truth.

Wrong again. Many here use their real names.

Look how many more myths now are there in our lives compared to before the internet?

Hard to tell, given that there were so many in the centuries before the internet.

You have managed to insult every honest person on the Internet while being totally off topic. Nice work.

 

[Spark]

After all the bluster and pages of posts, this is all that is left of the 14 points listed at the start of this thread - you THINK (NO PROOF OFFERED TO THE SUPPORT THE ACCUSATION) that he lied about the plea bargain; you want him to own up to the "combat vet" statements (ALTHOUGH YOU'VE SHOWN NO EVIDENCE HE SAID IT WAS IN UNIFORM, EVER); you THINK (NO PROOF OFFERED TO SUPPORT THE SUPPOSITION) that he alludes to spec op experience during '86 to '93 - a time period that you and Lynn's PI admit you know nothing of what he did; you mistakenly THINK he started Strider Knives with Duane in '98, even though the record is clear they started before he went to the pen; you THINK he should have known about knife mags before '93; you now agree he is a Ranger; and you THINK (NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THE CLAIM) that Duane's record counted for zero, and Mick's having been a Ranger counts for all the success of their company.

Ahem, not to sound like a broken record, but if you can provide any evidence backing up any of Mick's claims, please, pretty please, with sugar on top, post it.

This is some really masterful misdirection. Almost 40 pages and the best you can come up with is saying that the court documents don't mean what they say they mean.

Ok, if Mick's combat service wasn't in uniform, it should be easy to back that up. Please tell me, good sir, what private military contractor in 1986 - 1993, is going to be so hard up for recruits that they want a self admitted "shitty attitude" having, busted spine E1 who has been barred to reenlistment?

Where was Mick in combat? If it wasn't in service to the US Government, where was it? What year? What nation? I swear, it shouldn't be so hard to back up something so little.

If Mick started Strider Knives before he went to the pen, I'd be amazed. Seriously amazed. I mean, I can clearly see why he'd not want that known.

Finally, you'll have to quote me as to where I said anything about Strider Knives Inc or Duane in any connotation, this thread isn't about the company or Mick's business partner. So please, pretty please, stop trying to cloud the issue sir. You've already lost $500 being proven wrong once.

You don't think Mad Dog's completely fictitious claims of having been a "professional soldier" for six years merits similar treatment to protect the honor of our veterans. You don't try to protect those same veterans from the innuendo and outright lies of other well known knifemakers when it comes to their connections with the SpecWar community. Just this one maker, the one you admit called you names on your own forum, he's the one they need protection from?

Oh, I'm sorry, so because someone else gets away with it, we should give Mick Strider a pass? That's a hell of a double standard sir.

I take it from your statements though that you agree those who lie about their military records are scum. Bravo for standing up and being counted there.

By all means, if you can document in detail Mad Dog telling such spurious statements about his career, feel free to post a nice big thread on it. Be sure to make sure you have liberal citations and direct quotations from the man himself.

Have you alway been completely honest here? Is calling yourself the "owner" of Bladeforums the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth? Or should that a read, "an owner", to denote that others are also owners of it, as you have stated in the past? You live in a glass house.

What? I'm the sole owner of BFC, yes. In the past, others have owned it, and at one point I had a silent partner. That's been long over. What that has to do with anything though... is beyond me.

 

[Allan Molstad]

Did you read the thread?

I never actually heard of Cold Steel knives before I saw this topic in the NEW POSTS section.
Up untill about this early afternoon, I always thought "Cold Steel" was a forgeing term and not a brand name.
I have no real clue about this guy you brothers are talking about.

I read many pages of this topic, HOWEVER, due to some nasty posts that always cause me to skip on a bit to more "family-friendly" posts, I could have missed an important post that I really need to look at to understand the conversation.

Could you help me out and point to any of the important posts or threads that I should pay close attention to?

 

[Spark]

Posts 1-14 would be a great start there, sir.

 

[hardheart]

Again, for the record, Mr. McClung never served in any capacity for his Country with any branch of the United States Military, despite his claims of many years as a "professional soldier".

I wonder if he ever charged a gunman, or said he was a combat vet working in the service of the US. As has been so eloquently pointed out, being paid to do some soldiering doesn't mean you get an LES. So where he sat then is about where Mick sits now, as far as that goes.

 

[baliblaster]

i think we all should meet at the Blade show,in the parking lot,and have a big ole mexican knife fight.is anybody else game?

 

[Michelle]

As you might imagine, I've received some less-than-complimentary feedback from some people.

That's crappy. Just like Ira getting hate mail is crappy. Just like me getting hate mail is crappy.

Thank you Gollnick for doing your best here in a VERY difficult situation.

m1

 

[Chief]

Holy Shit, a Blast from the Past. Long time no see, Chief. Good on you for cutting straight through the bullshit.

Hey Spark,

Thanks for the hard work you did investigating this scumbag and bringing the truth to light. You are right on target when you say that his lies discredit all those who served honorably. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:

 

[digitalrebelttu]

Sticks and stones.

 

[hardheart]

i think we all should meet at the Blade show,in the parking lot,and have a big ole mexican knife fight.is anybody else game?

I don't have a big ole Mexican knife

 

[Allan Molstad]

Tomas, I really believe what I said is the more safe way to go.

Do you got kids?
One of the first things my wife talked to me about was the things she had learned about the internet as part of her job.

Yes, people lie, now as in the past.
Both in real life, and on the internet.
But the internet seems to bring out the lier in an otherwise very wise and honest person.
I think it's this ability to talk to others so closely and yet so hidden that the internet brings to us, that is the cause of the type of bad manners we see so much of on the Net.


It's like the other people on the internet are all on the other side of a wall, we can talk to and hear each other, but cant see, cant truly get to know them as people....
Therefor, because so many can hear us when we post and yet cant do much about checking us out, that people tend to get mad and post weird things that you just dont hear spoken in church .

Perhaps Im wrong to say that everyone is like a used car salesman on the internet.....I dont know,
....But thats the way I look at them,,,thats the way I trust them...thats the way I think is the best way to go...

 

[Boats]

After all the bluster and pages of posts, this is all that is left of the 14 points listed at the start of this thread - you THINK (NO PROOF OFFERED TO THE SUPPORT THE ACCUSATION) that he lied about the plea bargain; you want him to own up to the "combat vet" statements (ALTHOUGH YOU'VE SHOWN NO EVIDENCE HE SAID IT WAS IN UNIFORM, EVER); you THINK (NO PROOF OFFERED TO SUPPORT THE SUPPOSITION) that he alludes to spec op experience during '86 to '93 - a time period that you and Lynn's PI admit you know nothing of what he did; you mistakenly THINK he started Strider Knives with Duane in '98, even though the record is clear they started before he went to the pen; you THINK he should have known about knife mags before '93; you now agree he is a Ranger; and you THINK (NO EVIDENCE TO SUPPORT THE CLAIM) that Duane's record counted for zero, and Mick's having been a Ranger counts for all the success of their company.

Speaking again only for myself, I am setting out to get info on the plea bargain though the inquiry will take time. It has been a remarkable spectacle that several well known pieces of factual information, taken together, simply haven't been enough to put the lie to the Somalia Plea Bargain story.

1. No contractor we know of today, in a time of less choosiness given the GWOT, takes people "with skills" who do not have, and/or can't obtain SECRET clearance.
2. Contract Companies were fewer in number, with a bigger pool of talent to headhunt, with no compelling large scale hotspot to play in, that Uncle Sam would foot the bill for, in 1993.
3. Mick Strider had bail set July 1993. Whether in or out, he wasn't going anywhere.
4. The Battle of Mogadishu was fought in the first week of 10/93. Mick initmates being in jail feeling sorry for not being there, indicating also he was not out on bail.
5. By October 6, Bill Clinton, in his own inimitable way, declared all US Forces would be out of Somalia by March 31, 1994.
6. Strider's sentencing hearing was apparently on March 1, 1994. That would be the morning the deal was "pulled."
7. Strider was ordered to surrender at Lewisburg, PA FedPen April 18, 1994.

It just doesn't make any logical sense chronologically, as well as violating the sentencing guidelines, Army regulations, known merc contractor standards, the rump of western presence in Mog in early 1994, and forces us to believe that someone got him a deal to "disappear" a possible 15 year rap for one year in Somalia without pay after the clock was running out on the whole mission.

That doesn't even really get into why they'd want a slicksleeve with a bad back and a demonstrated attitude problem.

You don't think Mad Dog's completely fictitious claims of having been a "professional soldier" for six years merits similar treatment to protect the honor of our veterans. You don't try to protect those same veterans from the innuendo and outright lies of other well known knifemakers when it comes to their connections with the SpecWar community. Just this one maker, the one you admit called you names on your own forum, he's the one they need protection from?

REST SNIPPED

I think they do merit the same attention, but one target at a time is all that is really managable.

I am on record saying that Spark approaching McClung was a mistake. It was if for no other reason than it keeps backfiring in his grill now. I think that trying to get one skunk to help fight another was strategically unsound.

If the Hall of Shame comes about, I have little doubt McClung will be chronicled there unless folks are stopped by someone who'd pay the price legally.

 

[Michelle]

i think we all should meet at the Blade show,in the parking lot,and have a big ole mexican knife fight.is anybody else game?

Been there, done that... didn't fare to well... got the scar to prove it.... course I was 15 at the time.

And here I thought you were gonna say a big old mexican cook-off.

Don't y'all know what a parkinglot party is REALLY about?

Jeezman!

m1

 

[Allan Molstad]

Posts 1-14 would be a great start there, sir.

Well i just finished reading all,,er...most of them 14 posts...(Hey thats a long read guys)

So far what I see is a guy who dropped out of the army, and then later for some reason decided to steal a new car.
I also read about a problem he had when he seems to have gotten way too mad at a co-worker /partner of his and must have wrote some things about the other guy that were lies.

So far I have yet to read of any new charges against him.

But this topic seems to be about what the guy has "posted" on internet forums correct?

Now skipping over the fact that i concider everything posted on the internet to be based on a bunch of lies anyway, I have looked into some of the pasted posts and what I still see is a GONZO style of writing about himself and his adventures.

Gonzo was always writing about taking a "afternoon nap" when we all knew he had passed out due to drugs.
Or saying the President Nixon had passed out when really he just took a little nap.

Yes, A good story teller he does seem to be.
And good story tellers don't just happen to lead them real interesting lives that they just talks about later,
Rather a good story teller talks about his life and makes it interesting.

So far. (and as I said, im still reading the 14 posts) so far I get the feeling the guy likes to tell a tale, and spin it better with each telling.

From what I get out of some of this cat's story,,,All the talk of being on some sort of "dark ops" sounds to me like a very Gonzo way of talking about getting high on some lazy afternoon.

It reads like a modern version of the Walter Mitty story we all read back in school....

 

[Michelle]

But you are not him as much as you want me to believe that you are.

No! But I am!

And just to save everyone thousands of dollars.... as owner of SKI, I will admit to the following:

I had my tonsils out at 16 (late I know.. it sucked).

My dad died when I was 19. HE served in the Army under Patton in WWII... stormed Normandy and all that wonderful crap. (i say this with respect of course).... (See, this is why I am really into protecting military posers).

Bro served with the US Marines around the time of Gulf1. (See, this is why I am really into protecting military posers).

Got a DUI at 21 (pulled over for expired tags, but asshat that I was, I had had a couple of beers.... doesn't get much more stupid than that).

Diagnosed with cancer at 22. Survived it long enough to make all of you miserable.

Have studied MA for roughly 10 years now mainly Tarani but with quality time also spent with, Inosanto, Paulsen, Giron (now deceased), MadDog (yep.. you read that right... long time ago when life was less complicated), Marc Denny, Dionaldo, etc.

I have no combat experiece but I have been stabbed during an ugly dust up in my youth.

My favorite pistols are Sig Sauers.

I blew my back out last year (L4-L5 and L5-S1) while de-animating Christmas lights on my house.

I think that covers it.



I hope all you voyeurs feel super good about this. Violating peoples privacy is fun huh?

It ain't much, but it's all I got. We'll always have Mick as a point of contention, but I have nothing against you.

That's actually kinda cool. Know how I met Mick? I met Mick, all those years ago, because *I* had Mick as a point of contention.
I was NEVER a cool aid drinker. I was a critic. And I talked to him directly about it.


And here I am now.



Well, you all have everything you need to know to save you from spending a bunch of money looking into my background.

Like someone else I know, I wont tell you about the good things I've done. THOSE things, I've done for the right reason. I haven't done them for publicity. And no one is interested in that stuff anyway, are they?

m1
p.s. If someone had told me years ago that THIS is what knife forums would eventually deteriorate into, I would have never signed up. Ever.

 

[Thomas Linton]

Tomas, I really believe what I said is the more safe way to go.

Allan, you went way beyond "trust but verify."

"Bad manners"? You communicated without any doubt that everyone on the Internet, including everyone who has posted in this thread -- on either side or in the middle-- has the integrity of a "used car salesman" -- is not worthy of trust or belief -- "can't be trusted."

Just how do you expect people to react to such an insult. Slap you on the back and tell you what a really clever, stylish guy you are?

Think, Alan. You posted on the Internet.

Alan, by all means, go your "way." Please come back when you are prepared to treat people decently. We may find that you are, after all, worthy of belief.

 

[Pete1977]

Lets move on to my status as a criminal:

Back in the day, I worked with a group of hard hitting fuckers….no doubt. We did a lot of work. Some good, some less than.

One of the group was arrested by the FBI. Not sure if any of you have ever dealt with the Federal Justice System….but it works like this:

“Tell me every thing you know, about everyone you know….or your going away forever.” This guy started spilling. Luckily, we only worked together a few times so he didn’t have much on me. What he DID have was a car theft.

We needed a vehicle. Getting it was one of my tasks.
I went to near by dealership and asked to take a test drive. The sales person drove off the lot. When it was time for me to drive, they got out, I auto locked to doors, jumped the center divider and drove away.

End of harsh carjack story. Until you get to the arrest part.

I get a call from a friend…they tell me that they were just “hot stopped” because the cops thought they were me.

Me, being me, I call the cops and tell them where I am. Im not some scared ass coward….If I have lumps coming…I just take em and get it over with.

Me, also being me…..had never dealt with the Federal Justice System and assumed that things would go differently. I was much too upfront and honest.

“did you do it?”

“YES”

“did you have a gun?”

“Duh….i ALWAYS have a gun”

Oops….

Long story short….mick gets in a LOT of trouble because I wouldn’t tell on anyone.
In fact….there are rumors by those present that I may have told the lead guy, that if he wanted anything out of me he was gonna have to suck it out through my dick to get it.
Too bad, in my opinion, more folks don’t hold their mud…..Informants are the lowest form of life on this planet….well….informants and their minions…

what kind of "work" would someone be doing in california that "needed a car" and would be "tasked" to get one by "hard-hitting" people?

where I come from "a piece of work" or "putting in work" is slang for killing somebody. people (hitmen) who do this kind of work oftentimes use stolen cars as getaway cars. this all sounds kind of tom clancy to me.

knowing exactly why he needed a car or was tasked to get one might help in clearing up some of the gray areas still present in this. I doubt any of us will ever know though what the exact reason for stealing the car was. or is it classified

was he some sort of spy/operator/contractor/mercenary killing american citizens for the government in california? was he a hitman? a gangster? a thug?

I think it is pretty much proven that he DID carjack someone. (and yes, if he locked the owner of the car out of it and took off, it is carjacking, armed or not). To me the question is WHY?

 

[ptgdvc]

?
I think it is pretty much proven that he DID carjack someone. (and yes, if he locked the owner of the car out of it and took off, it is carjacking, armed or not). To me the question is WHY?

You have a much better chance of seeing John Kerry's signed 1080, than getting any sort of answer to an obvious question such as that. LOL!

 

[Allan Molstad]

You communicated without any doubt that everyone on the Internet, including everyone who has posted in this thread -- on either side or in the middle-- has the integrity of a "used car salesman" -- is not worthy of trust or belief -- "can't be trusted."

Yes, this is very true.
This is the way I believe,
it is what I also believe is the best and the most safe way to go for members of my family....

I trust no one....
I dont believe on face value alone any posts I have ever read on the web.
Too many fools running around with a computer, and crazy ideas all ready to write about.

It does not matter how much I agree with or disagree with you or someone else. It matters not at all that they may 'seem' so very friendly...

I tell the members of my house that the internet is not like a church social,,,,
"Trust no one"....
Always concider them to be able and more than willing to be up to no good.
Yes, that is how I look at everyone...

It's nothing personal, you may be the most nice guy in the world.
But that really does not matter to me right now,
You see, this is the web and here we have to keep an eye out for trouble all the time.

 

[Cougar Allen]

I am the owner of Strider knives. I've been impersonating Mick AND Duane allll these years. I hire actors ...

Okay, I buy that -- but what about the Count of Monte Cristo? Is he a real Count? Or just a jailbird obsessed with revenge?

And why would the gummint pull Rambo out of prison to send him on a secret mission to Vietnam? Were they that hard up for helicopter pilots?

Is Frankenfurter really a transexual transvestite from the galaxy Transylvania? Or just another weirdo from Earth?

Naturally we would all rather hear it straight from the Count of Monte Cristo, Rambo, and Frankenfurter, but since they're not responding to questions why don't you speak for them?