Mick Strider has some explaining to do.

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If Mick was employed by one of the Private Contractors that were under Contract with the Government he would not necessarily need top Secret clearance. All he needs is a skill that he performs better than most.

Maybe Mick was a Merc and if that's the case we will never know.

Nothing new has been posted here, maybe it's time to end it. The longer it goes the more I suspect vendetta.....................................

JBravo, thank you sir. Mick does have some really superb friends................
 
What Spark thought is pretty well outlined in this thread. For him to say it's worse than he thought seems pretty cut and dried to me.

Event 1: Spark has thoughts and posts them, in quadruplicate, with documentation.

Event 2: Spark receives new information.

Spark fails to reveal that information.

Event 3: Spark concludes that the situation is worse than he thought.

Spark fails to reveal the information that leads him to believe the situation is worse than he thought...

Event 4: Spark promises to post documentation of the new information when he receives it.

Am I missing some essential piece of logic here? :confused:

Guess not. Except I remember a time when another person with a grudge vowed to reveal "much much more" regarding Mr. Strider, that would be "even worse than what's already been revealed"..... and we all stood by and received a great..........big...........nothing.

I should NOT hold Spark to this preconceived notion.... except for the fact he was trying to buy info off this particular "non-deliver-er" of information a mere few days ago.

ANYWAY, Ranger HT seems to have things well in hand here.

SO, I bid you all a fond adieu (except for Bohica2himself), and I will see you in the morning...

m1
p.s. Y'all are aging me prematurely.

I wonder if I can sue for that.

Boats? :)
 
I thought you were going to bed?

Anyhow, would you prefer that I just wait until another organization puts up on their site their views, and link to it? Because that's already in the works. Doesn't matter to me.
 
If Mick was employed by one of the Private Contractors that were under Contract with the Government he would not necessarily need top Secret clearance. .
Not to just bring them out lunch at the airbase, that is correct.

I work at the local airbase from time to time, I sure as heck dont have any types of top secret clearance...
Once I sign in they are more interested that my car is inssured up and has tabs....
 
Michelle. With all due respect I think you are a bit impatient. Spark just posted he was getting new information as he typed as I understood it and that was at 11:06 pm and you started posting right away how he must be up to something practically immediately after his post. Give the man time to get the material, scan it or whatever he has to do to copy and store it so it can be pasted or downloaded here.

STR
 
Ok, apparrently now two Ranger associations and the POW Network have been involved and are taking action. I've gotten the information and I'm scanning through it to make sure there's nothing sensitive like a Social Security Number.
 
Ok, apparrently now two Ranger associations and the POW Network have been involved and are taking action. I've gotten the information and I'm scanning through it to make sure there's nothing sensitive like a Social Security Number.

well which two becuase there aint that many?
 
US Army Ranger Association, 75th Ranger Regiment Association.
 
Ok, I have (God help me) read EVERY post in this long drawn out thread.

1) I don't know Mick Strider. (I may have met him once very breifly.) I have handled his knives, but have never owned one.

2) I have been a member of this forum for years, but just recently got involved again. I have on a couple of occasions met Kevin in passing many years ago. I even talked to him a couple of times (again years ago) on the phone (business related). I very much doubt he even really remembers me.

3) Before this post I knew nothing of the prison time, lawsuit, or anything even remotely shady about Mr Strider....even though I owned a sucessful knife store at one point.

4) I have never served in the military, but my father, uncles, and brothers all did. (WW2 & Korea) I have friends who were in Vietman, and friends who are currently in the Marines and have been or are due to be stationed in Iraq.

5) I have seen a few knife companies, and makers inflate their background and importance to make a sale. I have seen knife companies, and makers steal designs, lie to wholesalers and consumers. It always concerns me, but it is more something to cause me to make a personal decision to stay away from, rather than getting involved in a free-for-all.

Given all of that and doing a bit of research on why I or anyone other than a Ranger, should be concerned about these specific allegations, facts, and questions that Spark posted here, this is what I found: On Dec. 20th 2006 the President signed into law Stolen Valor Act of 2005 (now PL-109-437). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stolen_Valor_Act_of_2005 Basically this broadens a previous law dealing with Medal of Honor phonies to include other metals like the Purple Heart, and to include making verifiable false statements. This brings these allegations an importance that nothing in these threads have. It means that some of the, even years old, statements Mick Strider made on various forums, if proven false, now consititue a felony.

How do I feel about this post now? I mostly feel sad. I feel sad that this has touched the knife world. I feel sad if these allegations turn out to be true. I feel sad for all the people involved, both for Mr. Strider and his family, and for all those real heros that have their valor truely stolen by phonies and wannabes.

Kevin, nothing agaist you, and not casting any doubt of your trustfulness, but I will be looking (maybe holding out idealistic hope that this is just a big mistake) for confirmation from a separate (non-knife realted site) like the POW Network.

Ok I've said my piece. (If you've made it this far, I'm impressed.) I'm going back to lurking and trying to sort fact from fiction, and honest concern about this thread verses the personal attacks and popcorn munchers.

Pam
 
Ok, here are the documents that came through from the Ranger Association, that they collected under FOIA. Please excuse the poor quality, that's their scan, not mine.

Here are the facts:

Mickey Ray Burger served from 12-26-85, until 11-26-86. For those who have math issues, that's 11 months.

His final pay grade was Private, E-1.

Contrary to what was on the DD214, Basic Airborne School was in 86.
He reported to RIP 04-06.
Traveled to Ft Lewis 05-09-86.
Was assigned to C CO, 2/75 Ranger Regiment 05-29-86.

08-04-86 he reports to A CO, 3/47th Infantry.
08-29-86 he goes AWOL
09-04-86 he returns to A CO, 3/47th Infantry.
11-26-86 he's discharged honorably.

So, those of you who questioned the nature of his discharge, you were wrong. Mick Strider did, in fact, receive an honorable discharge.

Unfortunately, he also went fucking AWOL after getting his ass removed from the 2/75. There's no records of any hospital stay. There's no medical discharge. There's no super secret Tier 1 black ops training on his education record. He wasn't taught SERE, or Offensive Driving, or Counter Insurgency, or Lock Picking, or any of the varied specialty Special Operations Schools.

Instead, he just got booted from the Rangers after 65 days and went AWOL, then got released from service.

Bravo. RTLW, Mick.
 

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Thats it??? LOL funny! You proved exactly what Mick said!!


This thread is a fuckin joke!!

This is like a comedy!!

Lock the thread now!!!


I can't believe this is what you scraped up.

I have not laughed harder in years!!!
 
I'll see what I can do for better scans.

As for NousDefions, well man, if you are going to take the word of a guy who got kicked out of the Rangers, went AWOL, got popped carjacking, and lied about being in combat, that speaks volumes. Feet and knees together.
 
could you clear this up, cause I'm trying to figure out how much time he actually spent outside of training. A possible week at reception, 13 for basic/OSUT, a couple for Airborne, three for RIP, about 20 days permissive leave before reporting to the 75th and the 47th, and a week AWOL (and how about the exodus thing, dunno how it worked back then)). I can see why he got out as an E1, he didn't even have time to hit E3. No big deal to drop an Art. 15 and go from mosquito wings to an E-none.
 
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