My knife can change school policy!!!

That is an awesome gesture Sonny! I am sorry to hear they declined, I sure wouldn't!

It makes me a bit sad that an army hospital said no to a SAK. It's almost against nature!
 
What bothers me is that kids used to bring a pocket knife to school (and everywhere else) routinely to sharpen pencils, cut food, do crafts and just because people knew they were a simple tool. Mt dad even remembers bringing a rifle in for target shooting.

I think the urge to "protect" is instead insulating and creating fear and unfamiliarity with knives and guns. People will fear the unknown especially if they are taught to on top of it all.
 
grownstar said:
Yeah, jimbo. I'm gonna have to call you out on your bullsh*t. I don't presume to know a thing about you other than your poor choice in avatars, but that meme is just about crossing the line.

I can tell why you see "knives a weapons, period." You're probably one of those wanna-be macho jerks who loves all the Crank movies.

It appears my thread is being derailed a bit here. I'm still not gonna close it.
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I don't agree with his train of thought but I have to admit... I love me some Jason Statham.
 
It's a trip what a hard-on some people have for following the rules, even the stupid ones.

jimh0220 is probably one of these people who drives exactly 65mph in the fast lane and won't let you pass because "it's the law" >_>
 
Neko2 said:
What bothers me is that kids used to bring a pocket knife to school (and everywhere else) routinely to sharpen pencils, cut food, do crafts and just because people knew they were a simple tool. Mt dad even remembers bringing a rifle in for target shooting.

I think the urge to "protect" is instead insulating and creating fear and unfamiliarity with knives and guns. People will fear the unknown especially if they are taught to on top of it all.
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:thumbup:The "feel good" laws and rules have not replaced common sense which seems to be not too common nowadays.Are we really safer or do we just like to feel safe?I just can't seem to grasp how these rules/laws would prevent someone with bad intent from carrying out their evil intentions????I think the rules made in schools are for liability purposes and to cover their a**. I doubt they prevent malicious intentions by adults and parents.The rules help the schools distance themselves legally from liability.Rule #1 cover your as*= zero tolerance
 
I disagree about a zero tolerance policy on school grounds. Of course, I carried a knife to school every day, my entire school career. I remember one school camp trip where one of the teachers ran up to me, and shouted "I hear you brought a machete!" Being an honest kid I answered "yes". Her face lit up, and she asked to borrow it. I figured it was her nice way of taking it. But after a while, she gave it bsck, all dirty from harvesting edible tubers.

She handed it back with a "thanks, be careful with that".




I don't think a parent would get any grief for a pocket knife here. Every school event you see the clips in nearly every pocket.


Of course, my state allows parents to pack guns while picking up and dropping off at the schools as well.


Zero tolerance does not keep anyone anywhere safe.


The kid who is going to kill (or adult for that matter) does not take a gun or knife to school grounds and say "drats, foiled again" at a sign saying "no weapons".




Never seen a zero tolerance policy keep anyone safe. Metal detectors, security doors, and guards can help. But those cost more money than a happy "no bad guys" sign.


The utter ridiculousness of a pocket knife being carried by an adult parent causing consternation, and policy changes is utter nonsense.


"It's OK for our low wage, untrained, cooks to have knives, or for cooking classes, or....... (enter silly exception here).




I believe kids should be taught safe knife use, and allowed to carry reasonably sized pocket knives again.


It's still illegal for them to cary guns, signs or no.


Of course, I believe teachers should be allowed to train and carry guns in the classroom. It would be safer than having cops in the class room. Don't even have them concealed. Right on the hip, just like police.
 
Bigfattyt said:
I disagree about a zero tolerance policy on school grounds. Of course, I carried a knife to school every day, my entire school career. I remember one school camp trip where one of the teachers ran up to me, and shouted "I hear you brought a machete!" Being an honest kid I answered "yes". Her face lit up, and she asked to borrow it. I figured it was her nice way of taking it. But after a while, she gave it bsck, all dirty from harvesting edible tubers.

She handed it back with a "thanks, be careful with that".




I don't think a parent would get any grief for a pocket knife here. Every school event you see the clips in nearly every pocket.


Of course, my state allows parents to pack guns while picking up and dropping off at the schools as well.


Zero tolerance does not keep anyone anywhere safe.


The kid who is going to kill (or adult for that matter) does not take a gun or knife to school grounds and say "drats, foiled again" at a sign saying "no weapons".




Never seen a zero tolerance policy keep anyone safe. Metal detectors, security doors, and guards can help. But those cost more money than a happy "no bad guys" sign.


The utter ridiculousness of a pocket knife being carried by an adult parent causing consternation, and policy changes is utter nonsense.


"It's OK for our low wage, untrained, cooks to have knives, or for cooking classes, or....... (enter silly exception here).




I believe kids should be taught safe knife use, and allowed to carry reasonably sized pocket knives again.


It's still illegal for them to cary guns, signs or no.


Of course, I believe teachers should be allowed to train and carry guns in the classroom. It would be safer than having cops in the class room. Don't even have them concealed. Right on the hip, just like police.
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I am glad to see that some of us still have common sense......
 
RedLynx said:
Before I looked who posted this I thought it would be a new FFK design, seriously. :D
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Lol but there haven't been enough lateral stress tests on the 0561!

In all seriousness, thanks for all the feedback. The thread has kind of taken on a mind of it's own (definitely not a bad thing) and I enjoy reading the discussion and hearing all the opinions.
 
grownstar said:
Lol but there haven't been enough lateral stress tests on the 0561!

In all seriousness, thanks for all the feedback. The thread has kind of taken on a mind of it's own (definitely not a bad thing) and I enjoy reading the discussion and hearing all the opinions.
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It's been a good read!

Maybe I missed this, but how did the board even know/make this an issue? Did someone see you cutting the apple and tell someone else or, someone saw the apple was cut and marveled at how that was possible? It sounded like they grilled your wife the next day about it so I was wondering what happened (in the space of about the 10-15 seconds it probably took you to section that apple).

I would sorta get if someone else or some older kid (not sure if there are older kids there, I know some schools combine older grades in the same building) was cutting the thing, but I am guessing a lot of the staff there know you are a parent and more specifically, know you are the parent of the child whose apple you are cutting.
 
I disagree with zero tolerance policies - policies which cannot allow for common sense and discussion among the rule makers/enforcers about appropriate action are a lazy way to make rules. Yes they prevent preferential treatment, but they also lead to a lot of stupid, like a 5 year old kid being expelled for making a "gun" with his fingers...

By all means, have a no weapons, no knives policy. But do not make the enforcement of that a zero tolerance, lazy, knee jerk implementation.
 
Don't get me started. Words cannot express the utter contempt that I have for mindless, drooling cretins that represent the 'system'. These people are educating the children! God help us.
 
Oh judge! Your damn laws! The good people don't need them, and the bad people don't obey them.

- Ammon Hennacy

best

mqqn
 
Oh, BS Idle. I took a knife to school every single day from about 3rd grade on, as did my friends. We had shotguns hanging in the rack so we could hit the pheasant field when we were out of school. No one got shot, no one got stabbed. What is needed is discipline, teaching respect for tools, weapons and people. Zero tolerance is just another way of saying zero intelligence. The only people that need zero tolerance for "weapons" are those that have zero ability to think for themselves and use common sense.

This kind of sheeple crap on a knife board? Really?
 
redman2006 said:
Oh, BS Idle. I took a knife to school every single day from about 3rd grade on, as did my friends. We had shotguns hanging in the rack so we could hit the pheasant field when we were out of school. No one got shot, no one got stabbed. What is needed is discipline, teaching respect for tools, weapons and people. Zero tolerance is just another way of saying zero intelligence. The only people that need zero tolerance for "weapons" are those that have zero ability to think for themselves and use common sense.

This kind of sheeple crap on a knife board? Really?
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+1000
 
jimh0220 said:
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Way to go, Dad of the Year. Did you know you more than likely broke the law, too? Schools have Zero Tolerance policies for ANY weapon. It is the law. When I volunteer at my kid's school, I leave EVERY knife locked in the car. Am I going to hurt anyone? Nope. But I also don't want a criminal record.

I think the only tool was you. Knives are weapons, period.

Your cockiness served you well, Skippy.
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John, you and I discussed this thread via PM---we both had a good laugh out of it really---where this thread kind of took on it's own life etc...

But the only good thing about the post above is I learned your real nick name:confused:

You been hidin out on us buddy....errrr...I mean SKIPPY:p:D

And here I thought I really knew you;):D
 
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