My knife is gone?!?!

I always take things I read on the internet with a grain of salt. But as long as I have nothing to lose, and as long as someone doesn't go too far and insult my intelligence I prefer to give people the benefit of the doubt. I'm 50, and in my younger days I was cynical and always suspicious that people were lying, but that got tiresome, and it made me a bit of an a-hole. I decided I didn't want to go through life that way, and I've been a happier person since. :)

Despite the unpleasant premise- a lost/stolen knife, this has been a fun thread. It started out as a mystery "What could have happened to the knife?", and then it took an unpredictable and bizarre turn, and became a commentary on young people today and their obsession with social media.

And I like a happy ending. The mystery has been solved, Smiling doesn't have to spend the rest of his life wondering what happened to his knife (that would have tortured me), and hopefully things work out and Smiling does in fact get his knife back.

Also, I really like seeing the mature, compassionate, and forgiving reaction by Smiling. A lot of people would have been frothing at the mouth wanting retribution and punishment. Teenagers make dumb mistakes, I don't think their lives need to be ruined over it, or that they need to be flayed in the public square (figuratively speaking).

Smiling, I hope you don't mind that I found some entertainment value in the whole thing. There's nothing entertaining about someone losing a knife, but your story did keep the mystery lover in me coming back for more, and I've been hoping all along for a happy ending.


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killgar said:
Also, I really like seeing the mature, compassionate, and forgiving reaction by Smiling. A lot of people would have been frothing at the mouth wanting retribution and punishment. Teenagers make dumb mistakes, I don't think their lives need to be ruined over it, or that they need to be flayed in the public square (figuratively speaking).

Smiling, I hope you don't mind that I found some entertainment value in the whole thing. There's nothing entertaining about someone losing a knife, but your story did keep the mystery lover in me coming back for more, and I've been hoping all along for a happy ending
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Thank you, I appreciate this.

I am usually very fierce when I get angry, but as soon as I get an apology or see that other party no longer wants to keep it up I simply cannot stay angry anymore.
I am just glad I'll get my knife back and that's all.

About this thread being fun - I actually don't mind. It's at least something good that came out of this if people found it entertaining.

And this is also a lesson for me to be more careful where and how I keep my stuff.
 
I've had my brother's sleezy friends steal my stuff many times. Often money (once thought one of them stole 3k or so...but it turned up).

I spent months looking for a boot dagger before giving up. My brother was in his friends car when his friend had to really smash the brakes.....out slid my boot dagger in its sheath.... brother gave it back to me missing the last inch of blade...

That same creepy thief once tried to break into our house while my parents were our of town. Tellingly enough....he tried to get into the house through my little sisters room....he knew it was her window.....little sister wakes me up and tells me someone is trying to break into the house. So I was walking around the house, as he tried each window and door. I could see and hear him, but in the dark, did not know who it was. When he tried the back door he stood up and looked through the door window peering in. I flipped on the lights and was pointing a pistol at his face...

He claimed to be there to see my older brother......but he never tried older brothers window, or knocked on that window.


Good friend of mine had someone steal his Recon 1 in carbon V, and also steal several of his guns. He thought it was workers doing the windows at his home.......until he checked the local pawn shops. Found his guns and knives at a pawn shop....sold by his brother in law...
 
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Smiling said:
Thank you, I appreciate this.

I am usually very fierce when I get angry, but as soon as I get an apology or see that other party no longer wants to keep it up I simply cannot stay angry anymore.
I am just glad I'll get my knife back and that's all.

About this thread being fun - I actually don't mind. It's at least something good that came out of this if people found it entertaining.

And this is also a lesson for me to be more careful where and how I keep my stuff.
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That last sentence right there is the most important part!!!
I myself believe in second chances, however I also believe in 3 strikes.
Enjoy the reunion with your knife.
 
Bigfattyt said:
I've had my brother's sleezy friends steal my stuff many times. Often money (once thought one of them stole 3k or so...but it turned up).

I spent months looking for a boot dagger before giving up. My brother was i his friends car when his friend had to really smash the brakes.....out slid my boot dagger in its sheath.... brother gave it back to me missing the last inch of blade...

That sams creepy thief once tried to break into our house while my parents were our of town. Tellingly enough....he tried to get into the house through my little sisters room....he knew it was her window.....little sister wakes me up and tells me someone is trying to break into the house. So I was walking srrouns the house, as he tried each window and door. I could see and hear him, but in the dark, did not know who it was. When he tried the back door he stood up and looked through the door window peering in. I flipped on the lights and was pointing a pistol at his face...

He claimed to be there to see my older brother......but he never tried older brothers window, or knocked on that window.


Good friend of mine had someone steal his Recon 1 in carbon V, and also steal several of his guns. He thought it was workers doing the windows at his home.......until he checked the local pawn shops. Found his guns and knives at a pawn shop....sold by his brother in law...
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Both of these stories are super creepy.
It's insane what kind of people are among us.

I'm just glad you stopped that guy from breaking in...
 
I thought my story was weird, but yours is weirder. Over the years, I have lost many knives. Moost of them turn up, but a few have been gone for good.

About three or four years ago, I noticed a couple of knives missing from a bookshelf where I keep a lot of my knives, as well as a few guns. I have no idea when they disappeared. They are in with a lot of other knives, and don’t really stand out. One was an unused Benchmade Mini Barrage. The other a CRKT M21-something, a big ugly mall ninja piece. No other knives were missing, and none of the guns were touched.

It took a few days to puzzle over it, but I finally concluded it had to be my junkie stepson. He had already stolen from his father, and had been arrested for burglary. His choice of knives was a tipoff to me, as well as the fact that he didn’t clean me out. His relationship with his father was fraught with anger, but he and I had always gotten along pretty well.

His mother was pissed and dismissive when I shared my conclusions with her, but eventually she had to see the logic, and agreed.

A couple of years later, I was visiting him in treatment and he fessed up, promising to make it good when he could. So far, that promise has proven to be just junkie talk. Even after they stop using, believability remains an issue for a long time. He is still persona non grata in my house.

He did tell me that Pawn America had given him $80 for the Benchmade. If true, that is interesting, but it could just be more manipulative junkie talk.
 
I just realize that despite my story being bizzare or weird, it's much less serious or hurtful than what some of you experienced.

Teenage girl is less dangerous than drug addicts or some dodgy guy that's trying to break into your house and so on...

Also, this girl is stranger to me, so I didn't feel betrayed or hurt by it. If it was a friend of mine or family member I'd probably feel hurt by that.
 
I know this is a teenage girl in 2020 and you're only in your 20s, but back in the day something like this would warrant the kid doing chores for you or something for a fixed period. Then you two would end up bonding and she'd learn life lessons and grow up a little. Then they'd make a Hallmark movie about it.

Seriously though, glad the mystery is solved and you are getting your knife back.
 
This may seem hard and cold, and I realize it’s a very minority opinion right now, but I think people like her do what they think they can get away with. This girl has seen that the only consequence to her bad choice (to steal your knife) is a little embarrassment, she’ll steal again in a minute, just not post it on social media this time.

One problem with that (among many others) is, her bad choices are likely to escalate, and someday she may steal something more valuable from somebody less understanding than the OP. What if that person has the opportunity to damage her severely or even kill her?

My response to that would be, “Well, bad choices have bad consequences - worse choices have worse.” But a lot of forum members would go on and on about how tragic it was. The real tragedy, IMHO, would be that she chose to make herself the kind of person bad things were more likely to happen to. Life has enough unpleasant surprises without pulling a big stack of them down on yourself.

Chronovore, back in the day I knew a young fellow who lived in Alaska with his dad. He loved it there. When his dad caught him stealing, he got the &$$-whipping of a lifetime, and sent back Outside to live with his mother. He learned a painful lesson, and never stole again.

Smiling, when your knife is back in your own hands, I’ll be happy for you. I’ve dealt with thieves harshly, you dealt with this one leniently - no big deal, we make our own way as we see fit. But there’s a lesson here for you too, which is that when people know you have cool stuff (or anything of value, really), forms a line of them trying to peel it off you. A certain percentage are just that way. If you don’t take some precautions, they’ll get it all and you’ll be left with none. She has her choices, you have yours. Good choices bring a better life than bad ones.

I think you already know this, but one of the pleasures of being an old man is advising younger men. Thanks for indulging me.

Parker
 
catspa said:
This may seem hard and cold, and I realize it’s a very minority opinion right now, but I think people like her do what they think they can get away with. This girl has seen that the only consequence to her bad choice (to steal your knife) is a little embarrassment, she’ll steal again in a minute, just not post it on social media this time.

One problem with that (among many others) is, her bad choices are likely to escalate, and someday she may steal something more valuable from somebody less understanding than the OP. What if that person has the opportunity to damage her severely or even kill her?

My response to that would be, “Well, bad choices have bad consequences - worse choices have worse.” But a lot of forum members would go on and on about how tragic it was. The real tragedy, IMHO, would be that she chose to make herself the kind of person bad things were more likely to happen to. Life has enough unpleasant surprises without pulling a big stack of them down on yourself.

Chronovore, back in the day I knew a young fellow who lived in Alaska with his dad. He loved it there. When his dad caught him stealing, he got the &$$-whipping of a lifetime, and sent back Outside to live with his mother. He learned a painful lesson, and never stole again.

Smiling, when your knife is back in your own hands, I’ll be happy for you. I’ve dealt with thieves harshly, you dealt with this one leniently - no big deal, we make our own way as we see fit. But there’s a lesson here for you too, which is that when people know you have cool stuff (or anything of value, really), forms a line of them trying to peel it off you. A certain percentage are just that way. If you don’t take some precautions, they’ll get it all and you’ll be left with none. She has her choices, you have yours. Good choices bring a better life than bad ones.

I think you already know this, but one of the pleasures of being an old man is advising younger men. Thanks for indulging me.

Parker
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Thank you for advice.

Thing with me is that I don't want to be personally responsible for someone's pain. Especially if they apologize or show remorse.

I know I'm soft to that, but I sleep better at night knowing nobody has a hard time because of me.

Also, I had plenty of stress in my life lately so I just want to avoid unnecessary drama and additional stress.

She's not my daughter or sister, or even my friend. It's not up to me to raise her. It's also up to her to take my advice and use this chance.
I even went out of my way to make her parents go easier on her.

What I did to her tho was making her feel like shit for stealing from student who lost his job on Christmas...
I think it might be more important for her to realize why is something wrong than making her scared of consequences.
Because, if she is only scared of getting caught she might just become more careful.
But if she realizes how it really feels like when someone does something like that to you, and regrets her actions because of that - she might want to become better person after that.

She has told me she cried like crazy after her dad told her that I actually didn't accuse her of stealing, and even told him to go easier since she confessed them on her own...

Now I just want her to stop texting me and trying to contact me or see me after she gives me the knife back.
 
I’m not criticizing your actions in any way, just saying that there are still people and places in this “kinder, gentler world” that are tough, cruel and mean. If stupid hurts, the pain can be useful to motivate a reduction in stupid next time, leading to less suffering. Different kinds and degrees of pain out there, with different details of recovery.

It’s certainly not your job to raise her. This episode is temporary for you, already turning into a funny story. It’s a lifelong burden to her parents and family. Oh well.

There’s a Stoic axiom that roughly says, “worry about something you cannot change is wasted thought”. You cannot change her. My guess is, when you get your knife back you will block her number and turn your mental efforts to more useful matters like a hiding place lock box for your cool stuff, or a cheap decoy knife. And you’ll be more careful who your family allows in (what parts of) your house. Those are good and prudent things.

She, meanwhile, will continue to become who and what she chooses to be, and it won’t be your problem. But you know there are more like her, and you’re a little less naive about them now.

Be sure and post when your knife is rightfully returned, I want to cheer.

Parker
 
Smiling said:
This is how I feel about my Recon Tanto.

I moved every piece of the furniture in my room, checked all my jackets and wardrobe, I even went through our trash at 6 in the morning today... that doesn't matter because my knife was gone and now it's coming back and I'm thrilled because of it.
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I did the same thing, my man. I tore up my truck, the house, and garage, SEVERAL times. Eventually, I came to the realization I was a victim of theft, and was heartbroken. My wife can tell you, I moped around the house for a week.
 
Smiling said:
I just got a call from her dad.
She has told about it to her parents as I told her she should. I told her they'd find out sooner or later (my sister knows and she is usually spreading everything quickly).

Her father was very humble, he apologized in her name and even offered to buy me something as apology.
I told him it's all good.

Also, she has shown them the messages where I asked her where did she get the knife and where she apologized.

She never admitted stealing the knife tho, she has told them she found it somewhere, so her father was very curious to know if she stole it or really found it somewhere while she was in a walk and decided to keep it...

And I kinda feel guilty I told him that I don't know for sure. Last time I recall seeing the knife was several days ago and it took me a while to notice it's missing, so theoretically anything is possible. But she has offered to return the knife and even wants to make stuff right so that is a good thing. She also told about it to them on her own so I'll give her the benefit of the doubt.

He said he'll let her apologize in person like she wanted. So I guess that's it...
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Time to ask for a Busse or CRK as an apology gift. :D
 
catspa said:
I’m not criticizing your actions in any way, just saying that there are still people and places in this “kinder, gentler world” that are tough, cruel and mean. If stupid hurts, the pain can be useful to motivate a reduction in stupid next time, leading to less suffering. Different kinds and degrees of pain out there, with different details of recovery.

It’s certainly not your job to raise her. This episode is temporary for you, already turning into a funny story. It’s a lifelong burden to her parents and family. Oh well.

There’s a Stoic axiom that roughly says, “worry about something you cannot change is wasted thought”. You cannot change her. My guess is, when you get your knife back you will block her number and turn your mental efforts to more useful matters like a hiding place lock box for your cool stuff, or a cheap decoy knife. And you’ll be more careful who your family allows in (what parts of) your house. Those are good and prudent things.

She, meanwhile, will continue to become who and what she chooses to be, and it won’t be your problem. But you know there are more like her, and you’re a little less naive about them now.

Be sure and post when your knife is rightfully returned, I want to cheer.

Parker
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I love Stoicism. I don’t always get it right by any stretch of the imagination. But when I do stand by it, helps me keep my cool in hairy situations. I highly recommend Marcus Aurelius’s The Emperor’s Handbook.

Back on topic. Totally unsolicited advice, but knife storage in a secure location in your bedroom (and locking the door on the way out) should solve 99% of the troubles. Otherwise, I’d keep the blade on my person or within arm’s reach. It’s absolutely marvelous to open carry a fixed blade around the house and not worry about freaking anyone out.
 
catspa said:
I’m not criticizing your actions in any way, just saying that there are still people and places in this “kinder, gentler world” that are tough, cruel and mean. If stupid hurts, the pain can be useful to motivate a reduction in stupid next time, leading to less suffering. Different kinds and degrees of pain out there, with different details of recovery.

It’s certainly not your job to raise her. This episode is temporary for you, already turning into a funny story. It’s a lifelong burden to her parents and family. Oh well.

There’s a Stoic axiom that roughly says, “worry about something you cannot change is wasted thought”. You cannot change her. My guess is, when you get your knife back you will block her number and turn your mental efforts to more useful matters like a hiding place lock box for your cool stuff, or a cheap decoy knife. And you’ll be more careful who your family allows in (what parts of) your house. Those are good and prudent things.

She, meanwhile, will continue to become who and what she chooses to be, and it won’t be your problem. But you know there are more like her, and you’re a little less naive about them now.

Be sure and post when your knife is rightfully returned, I want to cheer.

Parker
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Well this is very true.

I plan to block her if she doesn't stop texting me once I get my knife back, I simply don't want to be in contact with her.

And the reason why I went easy on her is mainly for my own ease of mind and overall well being. As I said I want to avoid drama. I can sleep at night knowing I didn't make some teen's life miserable over something that might be just a dumb mistake.

She might get the best out of it and learn her lesson on easy way or she might be one of those who simply don't care about other people and never regret her actions. For all I know she could be just pretending she's sorry. None of those is my problem tho, it's a problem for her and her parents.

If she repeats something like this in the future and other person is less understanding than I was - that's on her. And I won't really feel sorry her either as I gave her a chance.

But one thing I can say about this is that I am kinda grateful for this.
She potentially saved me from a lot of more pain and headache in the future. I learned that I need to take better care about my stuff as there are people who will steal them otherwise.

Curious teenage girl wandering through my room and taking not that expensive and already well used knife is much less serious than grown ass man digging through my stuff and taking something much more valuable, or even more than just one thing...
 
All in all - I'm getting my knife back today :D

I'll just have to sanitize it once I finally get it back as she was doing weird stuff with it, like licking it and similar...
 
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