Need advice on transaction Please!

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I used the machine at the post office to circumvent the line and it doesnt need you to weigh it if it fits in the priority flat rate envelope.

Did you ship these 2 Strider's, in an envelope, a flat rate box, or a flat rate box, inside an flat rate envelope?

After reading this entire thread, I honestly believe that you were scammed, Parker. I hope this work's out...however, I have a very strong feeling that this cashier's check will bounce (I hope that I'm wrong).
 
If the check clears, you can tell him to go jump off a bridge unless he starts an insurance claim.

If the check bounces, then you have a plethora of issues on your hands...
 
Sorry to say, but as others have said, he's a thief. There is no "refund" to give. He already got free knives, but crooks are ruthless and want to be paid again for the privilege of stealing them.

My office has received millions of dollars worth of fake cashiers checks. In a range anywhere from a few dollars to over $200,000. But if it's fake, it's not even worth a piece of scrap paper to scribble on.

It may take a couple of days up to two weeks before you are notified that the check has bounced. Keep the copy for yourself, get it laminated and keep it as a reminder to evaluate future transactions with a little more scrutiny. Consider it tuition for your first semester in the College of Fraud. Education is expensive.

In the future consider requiring a postal money order. Then you can cash it right there in the post office. Once cash (the green kind) is in hand, you can then send product with confidence.

I really hope for your benefit that I am wrong. But the way you described the communication, his responses, then threats to quickly send more money....just sounded all too familiar to the many times they've been tried on us.

Good luck. Keep us posted on any new events or contact. Hopefully many will be able to learn from this also.
 
So he insisted on paying with cashiers check, but wants to be refunded with a USPS MO? Before his check clears?

Hope it's not, but so far this looks like a scam. Way too many red flags....

Regarding the content of the mailing box, looks like it's your word against his. Withought weight proof (or any other proof), not sure how you can defend your side of the story. If he is indeed a scammer, looks like you made it easy for him to take advantage of the circumstances....
Was it fully insured? Since you may be at a loss here, can you claim the insurance?

Really hope this works out. Keep us posted.
 
DO NOT send this guy any money back! I'm 99% positive that the cashiers check will not clear, and you will be screwed. He want's you to send the money before your account is debited the amount of the cashiers check. The feds are not going to get hold of you about the check. You bank will just debit your account the amount of the check, and then send you a letter stating that a check was returned. My wife works for a major bank, and this is how it's done. If you check your account online you will see it before you receive the letter from your bank, so keep checking your account online. Also, YOU file the claim at the post office not him/her.

I truly hope this works out for you,I know first hand how this feels. Best of luck!
 
I used the machine at the post office to circumvent the line and it doesnt need you to weigh it if it fits in the priority flat rate envelope.

You used a Flat Rate Envelope to ship the knives, instead of a box...?
 
You can find USPS information here:
https://www.usps.com/

Contact the USPS Postal Inspectors here:
https://postalinspectors.uspis.gov/

Contact the Postal Inspectors before you say anything else, to us or the buyer. You are dealing with a scammer. Your only aim now is to get your knives back.

We have a lot of good people here who will give you good advice, and a few who are blowing smoke. The less said, the better, until you hear from professional law enforcement. We don't know your buyer but the Inspectors might.

Esav is right. My dad was one of the lead managers of the PO here in Houston and spent 44 years there. The number one thing you can do now is get the Postal Inspectors involved. Contact them, have all the info ready and organized, and stick to the facts. If they believe this guy is committing mail fraud, they will do an investigation and go after him. The inspectors I've met over the years take this stuff very seriously and almost personally and are very diligent in "getting their man".

It looks like a scam from here, especially since the buyer has not chimed in when he clearly knows the thread is up and he's been contacted.

Don't feel pressured from him. If you are doing your due diligence on your end and trying to resolve the problem through real and legal channels, you have nothing to worry about. He seems to be in a hurry to get that money back so he can move on to the next scam.

Good luck.
 
Whatever you do, do not send him a refund at this point. Make some contacts as others have advised and see if check clears/is legit. It might be good if it was shipped to a office building as his place of employment (if that is it) may not take kindly to employees scamming and using their address. Hopefully the buyer will chime in on this thread - but it seems he is not willing to yet - not a good sign.
Wait for things to play out and you can take it as you go.
 
First, as a privacy matter I'm going to ask moderators to scrub this thread of my PII, posted without my permission and, I believe in violation of applicable privacy laws.

Next, as a matter of the rules, facts of the transaction.

- Poster/respondent agreed to the sale of Strider VB and Tricon Fixed Blade with sheaths, used but in very good condition for a fixed price to include shipping with tracking

- Poster/respondent agreed to take cashiers check. A "cashiers check" is a negotiable item which the issuing institution sets aside "cash" directly payable to receiver. This was issued from a very reputable institution with a direct phone number that can be called if there are any doubts as to authenticity. Poster/respondent has not availed himself of that service. In fact, I would encourage and highly recommend that, if there are any questions regarding legitimacy, which I will guarantee as such

- Poster/respondent received the cashiers check by registered mail and acknowledged receipt.

- I'm told poster/respondent, as is the case with most institutions, received immediate credit for the cashiers check. The check has been through the normal banking and fraud processes and proven as authentic by those measures. Again, if there are any doubts, poster/respondent should investigate with his institution and/or the issuer. I encourage that.

- Poster/respondent indicated he had shipped the items as agreed with USPS tracking. Oddly, the USPS tracking shows the poster/respondents/shipper's address. It subsequently shows "delivered" to his address. USPS does not dispute that delivery

- Subsequently, a cardboard USPS priority mail flat rate envelope was shipped to the recipient. This of course, to a "normal" person, seems inadequate to hold the items poster/respondent alleges to have shipped. In fact, at no point during the transit does the envelope reflect the approximate weight of the promised items which is about 2.4 lbs.

- Envelope alleging to contain items was sent to and received by a secured, controlled, video monitored mail facility- not a private address. Package was logged, weighed (at less than one-half ounce).

- Envelope does not exhibit any signs of tampering, rips etc. and was received in fair condition with poster/shipper/respondents handwritten address label.

- Upon opening, envelope contained only Strider VB sheath.

- Receiver advised poster/respondent/shipper of situation and the lack of receipt of goods. Poster/respondent advises he is "investigating" and while trying to "resolve" posts this thread.

- Having delivered good, verified funds, receiver has asked for full refund for goods promised, but not delivered. At no point during transit is there any tangible proof goods were actually sent. In fact, more reasonable measures exists to prove the contrary.

- I am perfectly open to involving any law enforcement or legal personnel in an investigation. I am very comfortable with sanctity of that process. But what I am seeking is a refund. If the poster/respondent needs additional time to verify funds, he can do so. I've encouraged that.

- Just to be clear, as per the rules and common sense, I will not be litigating this matter within the thread. This is between parties to the transaction. I've only posted here as a courtesy and in deference to some of the fine people on this board.

I might also state I find some of the baseless speculation and allegations shameful and beneath what I've seen while lurking for years. I finally "joined" at the urging of a friend in law enforcement and jumped at the chance to transact what I believed was a legitimate sale. That was obviously a matter of very bad judgement.
 
Do you have a picture of the envelope that was sent?
 
I used the machine at the post office to circumvent the line and it doesnt need you to weigh it if it fits in the priority flat rate envelope.



First, as a privacy matter I'm going to ask moderators to scrub this thread of my PII, posted without my permission and, I believe in violation of applicable privacy laws.

Next, as a matter of the rules, facts of the transaction.

- Poster/respondent agreed to the sale of Strider VB and Tricon Fixed Blade with sheaths, used but in very good condition for a fixed price to include shipping with tracking

- Poster/respondent agreed to take cashiers check. A "cashiers check" is a negotiable item which the issuing institution sets aside "cash" directly payable to receiver. This was issued from a very reputable institution with a direct phone number that can be called if there are any doubts as to authenticity. Poster/respondent has not availed himself of that service. In fact, I would encourage and highly recommend that, if there are any questions regarding legitimacy, which I will guarantee as such

- Poster/respondent received the cashiers check by registered mail and acknowledged receipt.

- I'm told poster/respondent, as is the case with most institutions, received immediate credit for the cashiers check. The check has been through the normal banking and fraud processes and proven as authentic by those measures. Again, if there are any doubts, poster/respondent should investigate with his institution and/or the issuer. I encourage that.

- Poster/respondent indicated he had shipped the items as agreed with USPS tracking. Oddly, the USPS tracking shows the poster/respondents/shipper's address. It subsequently shows "delivered" to his address. USPS does not dispute that delivery

- Subsequently, a cardboard USPS priority mail flat rate envelope was shipped to the recipient. This of course, to a "normal" person, seems inadequate to hold the items poster/respondent alleges to have shipped. In fact, at no point during the transit does the envelope reflect the approximate weight of the promised items which is about 2.4 lbs.

- Envelope alleging to contain items was sent to and received by a secured, controlled, video monitored mail facility- not a private address. Package was logged, weighed (at less than one-half ounce).

- Envelope does not exhibit any signs of tampering, rips etc. and was received in fair condition with poster/shipper/respondents handwritten address label.

- Upon opening, envelope contained only Strider VB sheath.

- Receiver advised poster/respondent/shipper of situation and the lack of receipt of goods. Poster/respondent advises he is "investigating" and while trying to "resolve" posts this thread.

- Having delivered good, verified funds, receiver has asked for full refund for goods promised, but not delivered. At no point during transit is there any tangible proof goods were actually sent. In fact, more reasonable measures exists to prove the contrary.

- I am perfectly open to involving any law enforcement or legal personnel in an investigation. I am very comfortable with sanctity of that process. But what I am seeking is a refund. If the poster/respondent needs additional time to verify funds, he can do so. I've encouraged that.

- Just to be clear, as per the rules and common sense, I will not be litigating this matter within the thread. This is between parties to the transaction. I've only posted here as a courtesy and in deference to some of the fine people on this board.

I might also state I find some of the baseless speculation and allegations shameful and beneath what I've seen while lurking for years. I finally "joined" at the urging of a friend in law enforcement and jumped at the chance to transact what I believed was a legitimate sale. That was obviously a matter of very bad judgement.

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Thanks, cmac, for coming on here & posting your account of this transaction. Now that we know that 2 fixed blade Strider's, were shipped in a paper thin cardboard envelope, it's pretty easy to figure out what probably happened.

On the other hand, cmac, you can't fault any of the member's here, who were casting aspersions, due to your brand new zero feedback, 5 posts, member status here, factored with a cashier's check form of payment.

Very unfortunate situation all the way around.
 
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Thanks, cmac, for coming on here & posting your account of this transaction. Now that we know that 2 fixed blade Strider's, were shipped in a paper thin cardboard envelope, it's pretty easy to figure out what probably happened.

On the other hand, cmac, you can't fault any of the member's here, who were casting aspersions, due to your brand new zero feedback, 5 posts, member status here, factored with a cashier's check form of payment.

Very unfortunate situation all the way around.

Understood and thanks. Speculation being what it is, can often prove to be demonstrably incorrect.

I think you'll find I'm a very legitimate, honest person.
 
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Thanks, cmac, for coming on here & posting your account of this transaction. Now that we know that 2 fixed blade Strider's, were shipped in a paper thin cardboard envelope, it's pretty easy to figure out what probably happened.

On the other hand, cmac, you can't fault any of the member's here, who were casting aspersions, due to your brand new zero feedback, 5 posts, member status here, factored with a cashier's check form of payment.

Very unfortunate situation all the way around.

It was not a cardboard envelope according to the tracking receipt, it was a flat rate padded envelope. I have mailed, and received dozens of knives in these with no issue. The claimant indicated that there was no damage to the envelope so they didn't fall out. Also, a Cashiers can take up to 10 business days to clear the op's bank guaranteed funds or not.
 
It was not a cardboard envelope according to the tracking receipt, it was a flat rate padded envelope. I have mailed, and received dozens of knives in these with no issue. The claimant indicated that there was no damage to the envelope so they didn't fall out. Also, a Cashiers can take up to 10 business days to clear the op's bank guaranteed funds or not.

Shipping 2 Strider fixed blades, in any type of envelope is absolutely, absurd! For $5.80, you can use a USPS flat rate box, tape (lot's of it), & get tracking, & insurance.

When I read some of the logic that some people here ascribe to, it really makes me realize that I need to cover all of my bases, & never assume anything.

An envelope, for fixed blades, REALLY?!?! :rolleyes:

You ship a knife like this in an envelope, & things like this can & do happen. Ask any Mod's here, how many times they've heard this same, "knife disappeared from an envelope" story?

Be smart people...trying to save a couple of bucks, isn't always the smartest thing to do...
 
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Shipping 2 Strider fixed blades, in any type of envelope is absolutely, absurd! For $5.80, you can use a USPS flat rate box, tape (lot's of it), & get tracking, & insurance.

When I read some of the logic that some people here ascribe to, it really makes me realize that I need to cover all of my bases, & never assume anything.

An envelope, for fixed blades, REALLY?!?! :rolleyes:

Yep that's just crazy.
 
Shipping 2 Strider fixed blades, in any type of envelope is absolutely, absurd! For $5.80, you can use a USPS flat rate box, tape (lot's of it), & get tracking, & insurance.

When I read some of the logic that some people here ascribe to, it really makes me realize that I need to cover all of my bases, & never assume anything.

An envelope, for fixed blades, REALLY?!?! :rolleyes:

Yes, and my post office recommends them, and the Tyvek envelopes as well. If you bubble wrap the sheathed knives and place them in a padded USPS envelope you're fine, and they insure it. I suppose I've been lucky sending, and receiving knives this way.:rolleyes:
 
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