Negative feedback for kershaw1085?

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risen

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Hi All,

Okay, kershaw1085 & I agreed on a trade. My NIB Benchmite & NIB Sanrenmu 710 for his New Benchmade Monochrome.

He asked that I get tracking, which I did. Mine went out on Nov. 9th and I sent him that tracking# (btw, I had thrown in a bonus M-Tech Mini Karambit). He was supposed to have shipped on the 10th, but I didn't hear back from him with a tracking#.

Followed up with him to confirm he got the stuff I sent him on the 12th. He said yes, but that he still hadn't shipped off my stuff, but would "100%" send it on Monday (15th), and that he would even throw in a like-new Drifter to make up for not following through on shipping. Didn't hear from him on Monday, so I left messages for him, etc... .

Yesterday, he said he'd send it out today and give me a tracking#. I checked out his BladeForums stats and saw that he logged on today, yet still hasn't followed up with me. Nothing.

Btw, his excuses/reasons were working overtime and his last being that he got hurt at work (on Monday).

Kept email exchanges/transcripts to back up what I've said here.

I was hoping this deal wouldn't turn negative. Starting to feel like I'm getting ripped off. It's a shame.

At this point, don't know if I'll ever get what was agreed on, or if I can even get my own stuff back.

Time for negative feedback, or wait to see if kershaw1085 delivers?

Either way, at the very least, I hope sharing my experience here benefits others.

Thanks.

risen
 
Geez, these are becoming more and more frequent. Sorry it has happened to you. Have you notified kershaw1085 of this post? Hopefully it will get him back on the right path.
 
Thanks, he's off my trading list just for that, he's had your stuff for a week and hasn't shipped out yet. No excuse worth listening to at this point.
 
After the recent shiitstorms about deals one would think that those not willing to be men of their word, those not willing to follow the rules, and those who are so dense they do not know the importance of honesty would have been awoken to the need to deal correctly and never engaged in another bad deal.

It is not rocket science; if you say you will ship on November X, then ship on November X. If something does happen that prevents you from shipping on that day then get in touch with the other party ASAP and make certain he knows what's happening.

"You are only as good as your word"..........................Geeze
 
thanks for the heads up, kershaw1085 is off my trading list.

i would wait it out a couple more days to see if you receive your items, that is if he shipped out today. hope everything works out.
 
darcuss said:
...Have you notified kershaw1085 of this post? Hopefully it will get him back on the right path.
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Yes. I emailed him to let him know I'd be posting here.

Thanks for the replies. We'll see how/if he replies after today. As far as I know, he hasn't shipped anything, since he hasn't provided me with any tracking#.

I hope he straightens out and doesn't try to play a victim of circumstances.

Regardless, I agree, he should've shipped by now, considering the custom of mutually shipping on the same day *and* how much time has already transpired.

I'll hold off on posting negative feedback till Monday afternoon. I'll give it till then, but no more.

Is this something the Admins/Mods should know about, as well? Other actions that should be taken?

Thanks, again.

risen
 
risen said:
I hope he straightens out and doesn't try to play a victim of circumstances.



Is this something the Admins/Mods should know about, as well? Other actions that should be taken?

Thanks, again.

risen
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Oh he will, but if he were to admit the truth, that he really has no excuses, then he might save a little face. The whole work/overtime excuse is just as bad as the dog ate my homework one. Its called LIFE, everyone has one. When in school, is it ok to tell the teacher, "Hey teach, sorry, didnt get my assignments done because I was working overtime" No, its not. Kershaw1085, there is no excuse to make this man wait this long, pony up.

As for the mods, no need to contact them. If they are not already aware, they will be soon enough.
 
dericdesmond said:
Oh he will,...
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Well, you were right.

He emailed me yesterday and tried to make it look like I'm the heavy, and how he's on meds (can't walk/drive), and tried the whole, "I already said I was going to do it" thing (LAST MONDAY), etc... .

Anyway, he said he'd mail it out tomorrow. We'll see. If he doesn't provide me with a tracking# by then, I'm going to demand my stuff back. Just sent him a reminder.

I'll be sure to follow up here on the outcome.

I wonder if it's customary here to post a bad trader's info, so he doesn't try to switch aliases and continue screwing people over. That way, once folks see where he's from, they'll know who he is. I'll check with the Admins/Mods, if needed.

As I mentioned before, I've kept the entire email exchange. The record absolutely speaks for itself. I'll be happy to provide it to the Admins/Mods.

Thanks again for the support guys.

risen
 
There's been a million reasons I haven't bought/sold anything lately here. Stuff like this is ridiculous on both parts.

I agree he should have shipped....but honestly if it takes you a bit longer to get your knives It is called life. There are things that come before an Internet trade agreement, family and work come to mind. If work is a little hectic and it takes him an extra week to ship so what. It's not like everyone on these forums doesn't have at least 3 knives. If someone or their family is having medical issues (decently severe-severe) then an extra week or two is understandable.

I've dealt on other forums (non knife related) and people occasionally message me that their life is hectic at the time and they will need another week or two....fine by me. As long as I get what I paid for I'll wait a month before calling someone out.

It's a shame people point fingers so quickly here. That and of course the knife market IMO is absolute crap for selling knives. A little patience would be nice. I bet you receive your goods less then 2 weeks after you sent. Was it really worth the negative feedback thread and now 3-4 people won't trade with this guy? I don't think so.
 
We are aware of this situation, and will be watching.

Be sure to post any further developments.
 
Bill86 said:
...I agree he should have shipped....but honestly if it takes you a bit longer to get your knives It is called life. ... A little patience would be nice.
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I disagree. This whole trade system is built on a grown-up honor system, plain & simple.

If two people agree to ship at a particular time, that's the agreement.

In my case, kershaw1085 had time to deal for the trade, and he had time to request tracking and promptly follow up to confirm I shipped. Now, when it's his turn to deliver, he doesn't have time? Not only has he not shipped yet, he didn't even take the time to contact me about it unless I pressed him for an update, even though he had plenty of time to log onto BladeForums. He could've emailed me from here while he was online.

No, this isn't called life, it's called dishonesty. If you call it life, so be it. It's a pretty crappy life, in my opinion, and I don't want any part of it.

I said I'd ship on the 9th, and I did. He got it on the 12th! He said he'd ship on the 10th, but hasn't gotten around to it.

Why does it fall on me to have to wait so much longer? How is that considerate/respectful to the original deal, or to me.

You (Bill86) wrote: "I bet you receive your goods less then 2 weeks after you sent. Was it really worth the negative feedback thread and now 3-4 people won't trade with this guy?"

Seeing as how I sent on the 9th and kershaw1085 hasn't even shipped yet, there's no way I'd receive anything in under two weeks. In fact, the only way I'd get it at 2 weeks after I shipped is if kershaw1085 overnights the package tomorrow.

Is it really worth it? Maybe that's a question you should ask kershaw1085, since he's the one taking chances with his rep and screwing around on this deal. Again, the burden isn't on me in this deal. I did my part and lived up to my end of it.

Now "3-4 people won't trade with this guy"? Why should he be trading with anyone else without first taking care of this deal? What, he's got the time to keep setting up trades to keep receiving stuff, but he doesn't have the time to fulfill his part of a bargain, or he should be given privileges no one else has, to take his sweet time to follow through on a trade?

On a final note, not only did kershaw1085 break his word about shipping on the 10th. He also failed to ship on the next date he gave for shipping (15th), so it wasn't just a one time thing. The fact that having him get back to me about it was like pulling teeth only made things worse, especially since he had time to log in here.

No offense Bill86, but if there were more people like you here, there'd be less people trading, imo.
 
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Bill86 said:
There's been a million reasons I haven't bought/sold anything lately here. Stuff like this is ridiculous on both parts.

I agree he should have shipped....but honestly if it takes you a bit longer to get your knives It is called life. There are things that come before an Internet trade agreement, family and work come to mind. If work is a little hectic and it takes him an extra week to ship so what. It's not like everyone on these forums doesn't have at least 3 knives. If someone or their family is having medical issues (decently severe-severe) then an extra week or two is understandable.

I've dealt on other forums (non knife related) and people occasionally message me that their life is hectic at the time and they will need another week or two....fine by me. As long as I get what I paid for I'll wait a month before calling someone out.

It's a shame people point fingers so quickly here. That and of course the knife market IMO is absolute crap for selling knives. A little patience would be nice. I bet you receive your goods less then 2 weeks after you sent. Was it really worth the negative feedback thread and now 3-4 people won't trade with this guy? I don't think so.
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WOW I wouldn't want to trade with you either unless you shipped first and then gave me a month after I got your package to try and make it to the post office. :rolleyes: If this was your deal you probably would be a little pee'd off yourself.
 
Bill86 said:
There's been a million reasons I haven't bought/sold anything lately here. Stuff like this is ridiculous on both parts.

I agree he should have shipped....but honestly if it takes you a bit longer to get your knives It is called life. There are things that come before an Internet trade agreement, family and work come to mind. If work is a little hectic and it takes him an extra week to ship so what. It's not like everyone on these forums doesn't have at least 3 knives. If someone or their family is having medical issues (decently severe-severe) then an extra week or two is understandable.

I've dealt on other forums (non knife related) and people occasionally message me that their life is hectic at the time and they will need another week or two....fine by me. As long as I get what I paid for I'll wait a month before calling someone out.

It's a shame people point fingers so quickly here. That and of course the knife market IMO is absolute crap for selling knives. A little patience would be nice. I bet you receive your goods less then 2 weeks after you sent. Was it really worth the negative feedback thread and now 3-4 people won't trade with this guy? I don't think so.
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I can understand maybe an extra day or two because stuff happens, but I recently did a trade and two sales and went to the post office on 3 different occasions about a week ago all around the same time and that's because my ass was on duty during the whole run around. If "I" can make it with back to back calls and routine patrols, then somebody who has enough time to check back in with the OP for 3-4 days and receive the goods before he even shipped - he HAD plenty of time.

USPS will even pick the damn thing up, just box it up, print a label, and have it picked up for free!!! It's not hard people, you can't make it to the post office - arrange for a pickup.

In my opinion, you shouldn't be trading if you can't make good on your end. The OP did his part, he's not the bad guy here. The only time an item should take two weeks to be delivered is if it's coming internationally. I did a trade with a Canadian member here and we both received our knives in less time than it's taking kershaw1085 to get off his butt and ship out his end of the deal :thumbdn:
 
you are 100% right on all counts Risen.
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It could be understandable if the other party communicated the lack of shipping in a timely manor or made a reasonably accurate estimation of the actual shipping date and kept the OP informed.

But

To say one thing i.e. "I'll ship it Monday" and not say anything until the OP asks several days later is unacceptable.
 
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