New Dual Survival Personality is no Longer a secret

Just hope the show does not turn into a "Man vs Wild" theme. Although Joe is extremely knowledgable and would certainly follow him in harms way if necessary but Combat Survival (SERE to be more specific) is certainly a different animal from Wilderness or General Outdoor Survival. Where one you evade enemy, outdoor survival its all about being seen. Dave certainly brought a wealth of information to the show (in my opinion), I never heard him state he was Ranger qualified and being Ranger qualified is different from being a "Ranger" where that distinction is earned from serving in a Ranger Battalion on "Ranger" status. Hecould have possibly went to the course (8 weeks back in my days) and when he completed the course just served as a regular Infantryman in a line Company or Airborne Infantry Company while serving in a Sniper Section within a light Battalion or Brigade level Scout Platoon. Without looking at his resume or DD Form 249 I can certainly not judge a claim or false claim. All I can say as that I will miss the humor the two of them brought to the show, seems that Cody and Joe's personalities will clash often.
 
four_shore said:
new guy was lame..
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Accordin to tobii3 his lameness was scripted, according to tobbii3 his lameness was only acting, accordingly any skills or knowledge or adaptability is only scripted and doing foolish things and making your self look like a horse's ass is excusable under the umbrella of acting.

But I say yes, volunteering to drink your own piss, proclaiming to be able to burn one twig at a time, flourishing a knife in the air like Rambo if only because the script says to do it, makes Joe Teti look massively lame and moronicaly stupid and reflects badly on the special forces communites he is a reprsentive. He is either a moron or volunteer in portraying himself to look like a moron. Just calling it acting doesn't give him a pass.
 
scout1sg said:
Just hope the show does not turn into a "Man vs Wild" theme. Although Joe is extremely knowledgable and would certainly follow him in harms way if necessary but Combat Survival (SERE to be more specific) is certainly a different animal from Wilderness or General Outdoor Survival. Where one you evade enemy, outdoor survival its all about being seen. Dave certainly brought a wealth of information to the show (in my opinion), I never heard him state he was Ranger qualified and being Ranger qualified is different from being a "Ranger" where that distinction is earned from serving in a Ranger Battalion on "Ranger" status. Hecould have possibly went to the course (8 weeks back in my days) and when he completed the course just served as a regular Infantryman in a line Company or Airborne Infantry Company while serving in a Sniper Section within a light Battalion or Brigade level Scout Platoon. Without looking at his resume or DD Form 249 I can certainly not judge a claim or false claim. All I can say as that I will miss the humor the two of them brought to the show, seems that Cody and Joe's personalities will clash often.
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This is a quote from Dave's Bio, : "I was in the US Army from 1981-1988, during this time I served in Central America,Grenada,Korea and the US, much of the time as an instructor for both US Troops and some allied forces in several specialty areas. I graduated from Airborne,Air Assault,Ranger, and Sniper Counter Sniper Schools while serving my country."

You can also hear him state that he was an "Army Sniper" on Dual Survivor. That is a blatant lie. Spoken on film by Dave.
 
LeeHong said:
... makes Joe Teti look massively lame and moronicaly stupid
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Whereas Cody's pigtail braids, bandanna, jean shorts and bare feet make him look like an expert? Pardon me for LMAO here, but Cody is a pair of a$$less chaps away from being invited to the Village People reunion.

Perhaps reading Cody's opinion?

Please know that I have little if any control over how Dual Survival is ultimately concepted, produced, and edited. While all production work involves the efforts of many talented individuals, very few if any of the players involved with this show have any experience in outdoor survival skills. It wouldn’t be a stretch to surmise that the majority of the top urban people involved have not even camped outside. So what happens when “city slickers” design an outdoor survival show? Only time will tell
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Or that he admits that it is scripted?

Again, money is the name of the game. In my “eat a rat” video, a production company hired a film crew for specific reasons to film me. It was known before hand that the intention of the shoot was for me to kill and eat a packrat. As the film crew was being paid and on site for only a day, I had to kill the rat the day before. I placed the long dead rat under the deadfall rock minutes before we shot the scene. It appears that the deadfall trap was tripped and killed the rat…which was the point. Again, almost anything can be done in the edit room with the right footage.
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Read it for yourself - Cody Lundin TV Survival
 
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tobii3 said:
Whereas Cody's pigtail braids, bandanna, jean shorts and bare feet make him look like an expert? Pardon me for LMAO here, but Cody is a pair of a$$less chaps away from being invited to the Village People reunion.
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you're judging the guy by his appearance?

cody lundin is one hell of an intelligent person.

at this point he's probably the only reason people are still tuning in..
 
four_shore said:
you're judging the guy by his appearance?
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Certainly Lee has no problem judging Joe, now, does he?

But these shows are supposedly depicting human survival skills. If these skills are faked or embellished and made to appear as fact on the show instead of entertainment, we have entered into an entirely different realm of accountability. Touting “edit room survival skills” as real survival skills can kill real people in real survival scenarios. In fairness to the networks, anyone who bases their preparedness program on a television show should probably leave the gene pool anyway Does watching a football game on TV mean you know how to throw a football? In like fashion, watching a program or reading a book on survival doesn’t mean you know how to deal with a survival scenario.
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So who proved Dave's Bio uncredible Lee Hong? As mentioned before he may be a Ranger qualified Soldier meaning he graduated from the course, doesn't mean he served as a Ranger in a Battalion (Ranger). It is quite possible to have attended that number of schools in a 7-8 year span and serve in those countries as the Grenada invasion was in 83, Korea assignments are only 1 year in length and until sometime in the 90's (can't remember what year specifically) Soldiers were stationed in Panama where the JOTC (Jungle Operations Training Center) was located as well as the School of Americas that trained multiple foreign forces. What sort of service experience do you have if I may ask? Just point me or anyone else in the direction where he was proven wrong in these claims.
 
scout1sg said:
So who proved Dave's Bio uncredible Lee Hong? As mentioned before he may be a Ranger qualified Soldier meaning he graduated from the course, doesn't mean he served as a Ranger in a Battalion (Ranger). It is quite possible to have attended that number of schools in a 7-8 year span and serve in those countries as the Grenada invasion was in 83, Korea assignments are only 1 year in length and until sometime in the 90's (can't remember what year specifically) Soldiers were stationed in Panama where the JOTC (Jungle Operations Training Center) was located as well as the School of Americas that trained multiple foreign forces. What sort of service experience do you have if I may ask? Just point me or anyone else in the direction where he was proven wrong in these claims.
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Dave himself proved it by publicly appologizing for his lies. It is all archived and requoted on various boards, including his actual military records. If you want to google for it, just start by typing Dave Canterbury, the first google suggestion you get will be "Dave Canterbury Liar"; None of it is up for debate as to the fact that he lied, was found out and apologized for the lies.
 
zpstl321 said:
I figured Cody watched the show and seen how bad he looked with Dave around and his ego couldn't handle it. Dave make Cody look like a big wussy for sure. I'm looking forward to th new show to see how it pans out.
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Apparently the news is that there has been a huge negative response to Joe Teti,following the preview and the Mars episode the other day, flooding Discovery, Cody Lundin's facebook and homepage and various boards, he is being percieved as semi psychotic and completely clueless as to basic survival skills and knowledge. The pig killing where he screams and looks around like a maniac as well as the knife twirling after the ratteler kill are making him look the fool to viewers with even the barest amount of common sense. I really feel after watching unbraided one more time, he is an utter embarrasment. It is not a question of scripting or over reacting, he is just a ridicolus clown. I won't be watching anymore Dual Survival along with a great many others as long as Teti is on board.
 
LeeHong said:
Dave himself proved it by publicly appologizing for his lies. It is all archived and requoted on various boards, including his actual military records. If you want to google for it, just start by typing Dave Canterbury, the first google suggestion you get will be "Dave Canterbury Liar"; None of it is up for debate as to the fact that he lied, was found out and apologized for the lies.
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Well I certainly hope that is not the case, claiming Special Skill Badges/Tabs, courses, qualifications is a serious offense in the military and maybe even more so for the veterans who once served and paints a pretty negative image of one's character. I would just be extremely cautious on what sources you use to make that claim. If these records are not official military documents to prove otherwise I don't know how valid they can be, the internet is certainly not the tell all, know it all truth. I would also admit as a former Infantry Paratrooper myself that you do not have to have former Combat Arms experience or a Special Operations background to be a solid surviaval expert/instructor. Some of the attributes and skills earned while in the services will/would certainly help but not required. I believe I skimmed a bit through that thread/post of "Dave Canterbury is a Liar" but didn't see too much creditable information one way or the other. I also cannot remember ever hearing on an episode or on any forums that Dave claimed to be a Ranger or Ranger qualified, I suppose more information will come forward as the season goes along. It's still better entertainment than most of the reality crap we see on TV these days anyhow.
 
LeeHong said:
Accordin to tobii3 his lameness was scripted, according to tobbii3 his lameness was only acting, accordingly any skills or knowledge or adaptability is only scripted and doing foolish things and making your self look like a horse's ass is excusable under the umbrella of acting.

But I say yes, volunteering to drink your own piss, proclaiming to be able to burn one twig at a time, flourishing a knife in the air like Rambo if only because the script says to do it, makes Joe Teti look massively lame and moronicaly stupid and reflects badly on the special forces communites he is a reprsentive. He is either a moron or volunteer in portraying himself to look like a moron. Just calling it acting doesn't give him a pass.
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I have always felt that Cody was an arrogant ass wipe and I won't buy his book(s). I think he is intellegent, but this business of always wearing shorts and going bare foot is totally assine. I believe the first episode was to show case Cody as the "expert" and Teti as the upstart. I don't care what Cody says in defense of the bare foot thing. Dave called him a "hippie", and that fit. I doubt Joe will be given the freedom to call the "star" a hippie this season.

If the show was purely Cody, I would still watch it because I like the topic, but I certainly would not look forward to the next episode. I think that's sort of an important distinction. Dave brought a lot to the show and made it real.
 
I just sit here and laugh...people following Cody like he is some sort of "god"....while trashing Dave for "lying" and Joe for "being a moron"...

Do tell, Cody-worshippers, what is your opinion of a rampant drug abusing felon being on the show? Oh wait...that's Cody.

I have always felt that Cody was an arrogant ass wipe and I won't buy his book(s). I think he is intellegent, but this business of always wearing shorts and going bare foot is totally asinine
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Agreed rimfire!

Lee Hong...think about this...while Dave was on Active Duty, Cody was getting stoned and getting arrested...and Cody's opinion.....

"In a profession where human lives are at stake, dishonesty about one's background and experience is an inexcusable breach of trust," Lundin wrote.
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The irony is spectacular.
 
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There is now a video on youtube, where Dave is apologizing for his lies. I think there is another thread in this forum with a link. As I said, it is not a matter of debate. He lied, was found out and now has apologized in a video. You can watch it for yourself.
 
Joe Teti is a moron. He told Cody he was losing water through his feet from the salt on the ground as rebuttal to Cody's advice not to drink his own piss. That is utterly...stupendously....massively....MORONIC. God better be on our side in the war on terror if the guys we got fighting for us ain't any smarter than Joe Teti.
 
LeeHong said:
As I said, it is not a matter of debate
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You are debating the validity of a TV SHOW. Perhaps you have forgotten your hero's words about his "show"???

In fairness to the networks, anyone who bases their preparedness program on a television show should probably leave the gene pool anyway. Does watching a football game on TV mean you know how to throw a football? In like fashion, watching a program or reading a book on survival doesn’t mean you know how to deal with a survival scenario.
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i hope to warm up to joe teti eventually but my first impression wasn't a great one.
 
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