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Insurance would not have helped Verpus77. Packaging is the responsibility of the person who does it -- insurance would have refused the claim.
True. Though that is another topic altogether.
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Insurance would not have helped Verpus77. Packaging is the responsibility of the person who does it -- insurance would have refused the claim.
Yes, I think that's a problem. Some people are going to interpret that clause as an attempt to shift responsibility.I don't see where the disconnect is with shipping. Am I not making it clear enough that the shipper is responsible for the item once it's been mailed, until it's been delivered?
Why put anything at all about insurance in the rules?With regards to insurance, I've seen plenty of people on these boards request that the shipper not insure the package, just to save a couple bucks on their end. That's the only time, in my opinion, that the seller is absolved from putting insurance on the package... saying "He didn't ask for it" doesn't cut it, ever.
The reason to spell it out is so that people who mail $700 fixed blades in envelopes don't have a leg to stand on when we say that they should have known better.Yes, I think that's a problem. Some people are going to interpret that clause as an attempt to shift responsibility.
Why put anything at all about insurance in the rules?
On some other website where they're selling expensive things like rifles it might make sense for the website administrators to recommend insuring all shipments, but in most transactions here, for most of us, self-insuring makes more sense. Anyway it's not something to make a rule about.
It will be very, very interesting to see how this is inforced in the Busse for sale forum.
Is the guy who only goes to Knob Creek going to be allowed to flip while the guy who goes to every show to buy and flip Busses be barred from the Busse for sale forum and relegated to a dealer for sale forum only?
What about a guy who buys, for example, 3 DSSF (or 2 SFNO LEs) for the discount with the intent to sell 2 (1). Is he a flipper? Or just the guy who buys 2-4 of everything to mark-up 20-40%?
8. All ads should be placed in ONE appropriate forum. NO CROSS POSTING OF ADS IN MULTIPLE FORUMS.
Could we get clarification here please. I assume you mean more than one forum here on Bladeforums. What about advertising the same knife on more than one website? Thanks.
It means don't post in more than one forum on Bladeforums.
We have nothing to say about where else you post. In fact, why even mention that you have it up for sale elsewhere? That has nothing to do with your BF sale.
The reason to spell it out is so that people who mail $700 fixed blades in envelopes don't have a leg to stand on when we say that they should have known better.
Insurance wouldn't pay a claim like that anyway.
In my opinion, anyone who buys xyz with the intent to sell/flip it is acting as a dealer - regardless of the scale (whether they went to one show or twelve and whether it's one knife or thirty).
So you are saying that a person who makes the effort and pays the expense to go to a Knife show, buys 2-3 Busses (at full retail cost) with the intent to sell 1 or 2 at a profit to perhaps defray some of the cost of the trip, should be treated (and charged) the same as someone who buys 500 knives per year at 1/2 MSRP from Moteng or BRK?
Intent is a hard thing to prove. In the end, everyone who sold any knife on BF could be accused of being a dealer by that broad stroke.
To me the easier way would be to do what many states do to classify a person as a car dealer or not--count the sales. In Alabama, I believe that you are allowed to sell ten used cars per year as an individual. But to sell eleven, you need a business license, tax ID, etc, etc.
Anyway, just an opinion...
What it accomplishes is addressing some of the problems that we had with the previous rule set. BFC isn't a substitute for the Postal Inspector nor are we a court of law. The intent behind the rules is to lay down what's expected, and what is / isn't acceptable. There will always be exceptions and finer points of contention; we can't account for every situation. But, if we can codify enough of the basics so that people have something to point to when conducting transactions / trades / whatever, then we can smooth out things for the vast majority of members in the long run. THAT is why we have rules, a feedback forum, iTrader & the rest.Changing the rules is good and all, but what does it actually accomplish?
I read the verpus77 thread, and some guy is still out $220, and AFAIK, verpus77 is still a gold member selling knives here.
It seems like a case of "Go away, or we will taunt you some more..."