New Run of No. 15s (Beer Scout and Otherwise)

Just got my beer barrel oak today. I was worried it was going to be to light. But after seeing it in person, I am very happy with it. I'll post some pics later when I get a chance.
 
That would be nice. I like the dealers who show multiple pics of the actual knife I'm buying.
KSF has taken mark and pile side pictures of each individual wood GEC knife in the past. They did this for the last run of American Chestunt #15's. This is similar to the way they they sell the stag knives. I do prefer this, but I doubt we will see this in the future. The customer service guy told me it was too time consuming.
 
Just paid for my Charred Beer Barrel Oak on CK! It looks like they ship with a stamped key ornament also made out of the barrel straps and stamped to match the knife #! Definitely a TON OF VARIETY from the looks of GEC's website.
Any idea how many GEC produced?


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Just paid for one!
They made around 225. Referenced on the label. :thumbup:
 
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Yes. I always fall for the perfectly posed picture of the best representative of the batch. It is sort of like a dating site where the person you are hoping for is using a very favorable picture from 20 years ago.
😁LoL so true !!!!

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I got my Beer Barrel Oak today. The covers are beautiful and perfect. No odd artifacts.

Sorry. No time to take pics of it. I'm on my way to the Adirondacks for the weekend.

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I can't stand it anymore...I have to speak up about these beer barrel oak covers. What you gentleman are seeing isn't imperfections, irregularities, patches, putty, whittled areas etc. nor is it at all "unacceptable" by GEC to send these knives out.
Wood used on most all whiskey barrels is white oak.

White oak naturally has its pores plugged with tyloses, which help make white oak suitable for water-tight barrels, and give it increased resistance to rot and decay.

The white oak in this particular barrel used by GEC was also Quarter sawn which magnifies the figure in the wood.

Call it figure, rays, tiger stripes, character, or whatever you'd like but it's all natural.


After all this wood is from an old, used whiskey barrel and everyone asked for "character"!
You just can't please everyone...remember the worm holes in the old barn chestnut? Some guys hated it and some would've paid double to have it. Beauty is truly in the eye of its beholder.
I for one couldn't be happier with mine!




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I can't stand it anymore...I have to speak up about these beer barrel oak covers. What you gentleman are seeing isn't imperfections, irregularities, patches, putty, whittled areas etc. nor is it at all "unacceptable" by GEC to send these knives out.
Wood used on most all whiskey barrels is white oak.

White oak naturally has its pores plugged with tyloses, which help make white oak suitable for water-tight barrels, and give it increased resistance to rot and decay.

The white oak in this particular barrel used by GEC was also Quarter sawn which magnifies the figure in the wood.

Call it figure, rays, tiger stripes, character, or whatever you'd like but it's all natural.


After all this wood is from an old, used whiskey barrel and everyone asked for "character"!
You just can't please everyone...remember the worm holes in the old barn chestnut? Some guys hated it and some would've paid double to have it. Beauty is truly in the eye of its beholder.
I for one couldn't be happier with mine!




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That's really interesting. Thank you for the information.
Mine should be here tomorrow or Monday and I'm really looking forward to it.
 
I don't mind learning something new everyday wtlj !!!
Thanks for your insight or knowledge .
Great looking knife too.

Harry
 
I can't stand it anymore...I have to speak up about these beer barrel oak covers. What you gentleman are seeing isn't imperfections, irregularities, patches, putty, whittled areas etc. nor is it at all "unacceptable" by GEC to send these knives out.
Wood used on most all whiskey barrels is white oak.

White oak naturally has its pores plugged with tyloses, which help make white oak suitable for water-tight barrels, and give it increased resistance to rot and decay.

The white oak in this particular barrel used by GEC was also Quarter sawn which magnifies the figure in the wood.

Call it figure, rays, tiger stripes, character, or whatever you'd like but it's all natural.


After all this wood is from an old, used whiskey barrel and everyone asked for "character"!
You just can't please everyone...remember the worm holes in the old barn chestnut? Some guys hated it and some would've paid double to have it. Beauty is truly in the eye of its beholder.
I for one couldn't be happier with mine!




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Well I personally think it would be "unacceptable" what you've shown and the op's is totally different then different grain patterns as you've posted above . They look like patches and or grind marks on the other knives in question . If there not imperfections that the worst grain patterns I've ever seen that also give you the illusion of high and or low/flat spots .

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This is definitely no grain patterns and you can see the grind marks around the pin
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You may be right, but this does not change the end result, perhaps GEC forgot to make some pedagogy, as for anybody not in the secret, it looks like a flaw... :confused:


I agree with this absolutely. It's one reason I'm not interested in these salvaged woods as well, they strike me as marketing trend, but it's a good thing we all have different tastes! :cool:

wtlf pictures and explanation are interesting, but you answered it by stating that beauty is indeed in the eye of the beholder (or owner) Compare your knife with its ripples to Travman's with that suspicious pin-hole cross burr,or whatever. Put both knives up for sale and guess which nearly everybody would prefer... Try and explain that pin-hole finish as natural character to a prospective buyer.... Might be in the manufacturer's or seller's interest to promote the idea of 'character' of course, and indeed some may like it, some may get lumbered with an eyesore though :eek: It's like certain burl woods which actually might have holes in them, doesn't look too great on a handle so epoxy gets used to fill it. Then there's old Ivory with huge cracks around the pins, but this is often passed off as character or stable.. Maybe.;)
 
Well I personally think it would be "unacceptable" what you've shown and the op's is totally different then different grain patterns as you've posted above . They look like patches and or grind marks on the other knives in question . If there not imperfections that the worst grain patterns I've ever seen that also give you the illusion of high and or low/flat spots .

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This is definitely no grain patterns and you can see the grind marks around the pin

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If that's the "worst" grain pattern you've ever seen you most likely haven't seen much wood. Another reason you may be referring to cross-grain scratches, crosscut or sanding marks as "grind" marks. This wood was not "grinded" at any stage of manufacturing.

As far as mine and others being "different"...you'll never find 2 pieces of wood the exact same. Here's another picture of mine at a different angle, notice the so called "imperfections"


I have no vested interest in this conversation. I'm also not saying I would've been excited with Travman's example either but I also don't find it "unacceptable" on a natural material. Just trying to clear up some ignorance on the subject is all.
We can only ask for so much on a sub $100 knife...these aren't hand picked $1,200 custom slip joints with little to no "imperfections".
Carry on folks!
 
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while most of these selections shown look just fine to me. And given logical explanations and my own limited experience with lumbers, weather indeed natural or manufacturing error, I would have sent back/Been unhappy with the scout that Travman received. It was just an unfortunate spot/look. my two cents.
 
while most of these selections shown look just fine to me. And given logical explanations and my own limited experience with lumbers, weather indeed natural or manufacturing error, I would have sent back/Been unhappy with the scout that Travman received. It was just an unfortunate spot/look. my two cents.
No doubt mine would of going back to the "natural" eye sore table 😆 . Will see what mine looks like tomorrow fingers crossed .

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If that's the "worst" grain pattern you've ever seen you most likely haven't seen much wood. Another reason you may be referring to cross-grain scratches, crosscut or sanding marks as "grind" marks. This wood was not "grinded" at any stage of manufacturing.

As far as mine and others being "different"...you'll never find 2 pieces of wood the exact same. Here's another picture of mine at a different angle, notice the so called "imperfections"


I have no vested interest in this conversation. I'm also not saying I would've been excited with Travman's example either but I also don't find it "unacceptable" on a natural material. Just trying to clear up some ignorance on the subject is all.
We can only ask for so much on a sub $100 knife...these aren't hand picked $1,200 custom slip joints with little to no "imperfections".
Carry on folks!
Now that's not very nice to be pointing the ignorant finger 😉
May you get many natural grain patterns with grind marks on most of your future knifes to "carry on " and enjoy 😆

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Now that's not very nice to be pointing the ignorant finger [emoji6]
May you get many natural grain patterns with grind marks on most of your future knifes to "carry on " and enjoy [emoji38]

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Haha. Well played sir! I bet you can't wait for yours to arrive! Let's see it when you have it in hand.


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Nice illustrations & explanations, wtlj. I'm a woodworker too & was aware of the highlights that appear in quartersawn oak. The area around the pin on the OP's photo does appear, to me anyway, to be a manufacturing flaw, defect or whatever. It's hard for me to be certain without actually having that knife in my hands, though.

I don't work at GEC, but if I was assembling one of those knives & that mark ended up exactly in the center of the pin, (even if it was a naturally occurring mark), I think I would've trashed it & found another slab.

Either way, the OP has stated that he's happy with his knife, so I really don't have a dog in this fight.
 
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