Find out whether or not the original thread starter has contacted Strider yet. If so, give me a number that will get me in contact with Mick. In a few days (when I can talk again, just had my wisdom teeth removed) I'll call him for you if it'll make you feel better.
Given my massive amount of free time due to the minor surgery lately, I'll go ahead and diagram your argument.
Then please excuse me for reading your responses thru this thread and seemingly going out of your way to trash Mick Strider every chance you got. Anyone can do what you have done in a forum. Can you call him on the phone or go visit him in person to trash his company and person?
Of course not. Fortunately for Strider Knives, and most of us here, What you say on this forum means very little.
Enjoy your day.
Premise 1: It seems like you have bashed Strider
Premise 2: Anyone can trash Strider on a forum
Premise 3: Not anyone can call Strider knives and bash his company
Premise 4: You can't/will not call Strider
Conclusion: What you say for me and for everyone else is irrelevent
and this conclusion is supposed to support the argument that
Premise 1: Brett's beliefs/claims are irrelevent
Conclusion: We should disregard Brett's beliefs/claims
Premise 1 is basically true. If I wasn't arguing against Strider, we wouldn't be having this discussion
Premise 2 seems obviously true. Anyone can bash anyone on the internet
Premise 3 seems obviously false. Anyone can call Strider--what can they do to me on a phone line? This is assuming that they don't have some sort of phone screening process, which would make the premise irrelevent anyway.
Premise 4 is obviously false. Given the conditions that the original thread starter called Strider (I want them to be aware of it to ensure to me that this incident really happened) and that I can talk acceptably again (a few days from now, I imagine), I will call Strider to satisfy your demands.
The first conclusion/argument is a non sequitur. It does not follow that because someone "bashes" a company, their arguments should be thrown out from the beginning. You'd need some sort of claim that I'm simply biased against all striders or have something against them in general. Minus this claim, you would end up with something synonymous to "No one should complain about anything." From this argument "no one should complain about anything" would follow--and I don't think we want to accept that. You are, after all, complaining about me.
Let's address argument 2
Since no one believes anything I say, what I say is irrelevent.
Well, despite that I find the premise to be achieved through an invalid and incogent argument, even if it were true, the conclusion would not follow.
First of all, the fact (if true) that what I say "means very little" has no impact on whether or not my claims are true or not. Take for instance this argument I just made up:
My car is black/blue multichromatic.
My house is in Texas
I collect knives
Conclusion: Canada is north of the United States
No one would believe my argument in that instance, even though I think all rational beings would agree that my conclusion is true. Bad argument, true conclusion.
Ultimately, that you don't believe me has no impact on the truth (or falsity) of my conclusions.
What are my conclusions?
We, as a knife community, should not accept problems such as these as normal and okay.
In any case, your argument is invalid and unsound. For simplicities sake, would you please put your rebuttal in standard form?
