New Strider Pivot

unit said:
Fair enough.

...errr...wait a second. You were repeating that the warranty changed and Strider does not want the knives taken apart by users...

Did Mick say that this was the reason for the pivot change, though?

I need to hang out over there a little more I guess;)
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Yeah read more over there in the Strider Forum, the horror stories that Josh posted etc.

You will understand then.
 
Ankerson said:
Yeah read more over there in the Strider Forum, the horror stories that Josh posted etc.

You will understand then.
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I can imagine with their warranty and popularity they would run into issue with people modding their knives and then asking for warranty work.
 
Josh K said:
I can imagine with their warranty and popularity they would run into issue with people modding their knives and then asking for warranty work.
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And a lot worse than that. :eek:

Idiots and morons screwed it up for everyone.... But then what else is new....
 
Ankerson said:
Yeah read more over there in the Strider Forum, the horror stories that Josh posted etc.

You will understand then.
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I fully understand that they do not want their knives taken apart by users...but like locks and laws, this pivot screw will not slow down the people that disregard rules:p....
 
unit said:
I fully understand that they do not want their knives taken apart by users...but like locks and laws, this pivot screw will not slow down the people that disregard rules:p....
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Well the way I look at it is if they want to risk voiding the warranty on a ~$500 or more knife then have at it.. But I don't want to hear them crying when that happens and they have a very expensive paper weight. ROFL ;)

I never have taken any of them apart, never had a reason to. I just spray them down with WD-40 and wipe them down as needed, quick and simple. :thumbup:

If they need adjusting I send them in, no problem there. :thumbup:
 
Reminds me of Phil Boguszewski's philosophy. He started out with torx pivots, then added loctite, and now uses custom-designed 3-pin pivots PLUS loctite. You can't buy the tool needed to open one up.

He does make a nearly perfect knife, but if I'm paying x hundred dollars for something, I'd like to be able to adjust it without having having to send it back to the maker.
 
Ankerson said:
I never have taken any of them apart, never had a reason to. I just spray them down with WD-40 and wipe them down as needed, quick and simple. :thumbup:
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I don't take my knives apart either...I never saw a reason to do it.
I think a lot of guys take them apart simply because they can (or THINK they can). I'll bet the majority of knives are disassembled simply for curiosity's sake.
 
Ankerson said:
Well the way I look at it is if they want to risk voiding the warranty on a ~$500 or more knife then have at it.. But I don't want to hear them crying
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Amen!

The only thing I have to add is that I do not care if it is a 20 dollar knife, have the pride/shame/whatever to take responsibility for your actions and not share them with the rest of us unless you want us to learn from your mistakes.

Sorry I drifted this thread enough...carry on!
 
Stelth said:
I don't take my knives apart either...I never saw a reason to do it.
I think a lot of guys take them apart simply because they can (or THINK they can). I'll bet the majority of knives are disassembled simply for curiosity's sake.
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OK, I can not stop drifting this poor thread all over the place.

Again, here is the disclaimer that I intend only respect with this...

I view taking knives apart the same way I view Jim's hard use (test) videos. While it ?may? constitute abuse/warranty void from some manufacturers, it is up to the end user to make the decision to do anything they like with the knife (but they ought to understand a few things first). Jim makes a bunch of videos doing things with knives that I would not...apparently I make videos of things Jim would not do (taking knives apart).

I enjoy making the videos, and I take 100% responsibility for anything I screw up...and I will tell you, do not do as I do unless you understand the risks. There are lots of ways to enjoy and use knives. I am learning more all the time!;)
 
unit said:
OK, I can not stop drifting this poor thread all over the place.

Again, here is the disclaimer that I intend only respect with this...

I view taking knives apart the same way I view Jim's hard use (test) videos. While it ?may? constitute abuse/warranty void from some manufacturers, it is up to the end user to make the decision to do anything they like with the knife (but they ought to understand a few things first). Jim makes a bunch of videos doing things with knives that I would not...apparently I make videos of things Jim would not do (taking knives apart).

I enjoy making the videos, and I take 100% responsibility for anything I screw up...and I will tell you, do not do as I do unless you understand the risks. There are lots of ways to enjoy and use knives. I am learning more all the time!;)
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I do take some knives apart, just not my Striders. ;)
 
Here's my opinion. Knives aren't spaceships and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to to figure out how to take a folder apart and put it back together. Especially a Strider that has so few parts. If someone can't correctly wield a Torx driver I'd hate to see thier skills with something sharp.

I also think that sending a knife away for two weeks and paying shipping both ways for the sake of a two second pivot adjustment is completely rediculous.

Again, just my opinion.
 
Apparently it's more difficult than you are asserting based on Strider changing its policy.
 
Ankerson said:
It shouldn't really. ;)

Strider doesn't want people taking their knives apart...

They have gotten tons of them back that have been so screwed up by people taking them apart and pimping them etc that they even have gone so far as to change their warranty.


New Warranty, Repair Policy:

If your folding knife has been modified we won't fix it so don't send it in

modified= if any tools were used on your knife to change its appearance Your warranty is void
Change the blade grind= void
Polish the screws, blade or titanium=void
Modify the handle=void
File your lock bar=void
Drill any holes in your knife=void
burn up your knife in a fire= VOID
If you strip a screw we will repllace it for a charge
If you break the tip or chip the blade we will fix it no charge
If you take the knife apart and ruin the lock up thier might be a charge
***charges are detirmined on how long it takes us to fix it****
WE WILL NOT SEND OUT OR SELL ANY PARTS
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If this was taken WORD FOR WORD, you CAN take apart your Strider. Basically, only if you fuck it up will there be a charge.
 
canook said:
Here's my opinion. Knives aren't spaceships and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to to figure out how to take a folder apart and put it back together. Especially a Strider that has so few parts. If someone can't correctly wield a Torx driver I'd hate to see thier skills with something sharp.

I also think that sending a knife away for two weeks and paying shipping both ways for the sake of a two second pivot adjustment is completely rediculous.

Again, just my opinion.
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:thumbup:
on the "grener forum," though, mick did tell someone how to make a spanner to adjust his pivot. so I'm not totally sure anymore.
 
mongomondo said:
Guess I'm poor, but I don't consider $27 to be low cost...

That's a lot more affordable than the $70 Hinderer tool kit I was looking at though.
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Reminds me of the Microtech wrenches/heads. Exorbitant prices, except that they're always out of stock.
 
Must be wonderful paying 500 bucks for a knife you cant take apart to clean without voiding the warranty. Everytime you get dirt/sand/grit inside the pivot that you cant blow out you have to send it back to Strider? Sounds like even more work for Strider imo. Wasn't the whole point of overpaying for Striders so that you could have that uber warranty everyone always points out.
 
kawr said:
Must be wonderful paying 500 bucks for a knife you cant take apart to clean without voiding the warranty. Everytime you get dirt/sand/grit inside the pivot that you cant blow out you have to send it back to Strider? Sounds like even more work for Strider imo. Wasn't the whole point of overpaying for Striders so that you could have that uber warranty everyone always points out.
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I don't understand what's preventing you from taking the knife apart. Come on, the PT sells for $300 and is the only knife we've seen with this "new pivot" design.
 
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