New ZT/Hinderer Flipper is Coming!!!0560/0561

Left you a visitors message, good luck!

Awesome! Now the wait starts TooQuiet. Is that where you bought yours? Good online dealer? Seems so. I'm excited. Most I have spent on a knife yet. Might have to sell my newly aquired Sage 2 now. Hopefully buyeres remorse does not creep in. It seems there are a few guys selling their 0560 every other day on here because it's not what they thought it would be. Hmm...Give me the good/bad people. Likes vs. dislikes. Thanks, I'm pretty excited. KVT!!
 
I've been USING mine everyday now for a week and I LOVE it! I had been EDC'ing an A.G. Russell Acies (great knife) for 6 months or so but the 0560 is my new favorite EDC and it's just more fun to use than any of my other folders, including those that cost more than $400. Mine opens easily from either the thumb stud (this took a tiny bit of practice) or the flipper and the KVT system is smooth as silk. For a knife of this size it's not heavy but then it still feels substantial in the hand and being a tad lighter than most knives this size makes it that much nicer to carry. Like most here I had waited for this knife since it was first mentioned on this forum last year and I couldn't be happier with it... damn sure worth the wait!

Best of luck!
 
A usable edge? I don't really understand what you meant by that. Are you saying your 0560 didn't come with a usable edge? I'm just trying to figure out what you meant, because my 0560 and 0561 came very sharp. Speaking of which, I have a cut down to the bone on my pinky finger from my 0560. I havn't sharpened it, used it, and it's still the way it came.

I'm not trying to knock you. I'm actually curious if your edge came "bad".

I do believe he's just showing off his polished edge. Mine came sharp as **** and I still threw 20 passes on the ultra fine stone then my buddy gashed his finger just touching it.
 
I had two 0560's. Sold one. The only thing that I would like to see changed is the jimping on the handle. Either eliminate it all together or make it less aggressive. Maybe the same as the jimping that is on the blade spine. It is not bad enough for me not to buy one as I now have an 0561 on the way. Only took being on a pre-order list for 10 months. I wonder how long I'll being waiting for the black and tiger stripe to come in. I'm thinking late 2013.
 
The jimping is perfect IMO. Just gotta let your hands toughen up


Obviously its all just a matter of opinion but I have to agree with your statement...sometimes its just a matter of getting use to the feel of a new knife. If ZT were to dial in a knife to fit one persons preferences perfectly it would still be off according to several other users. Just take a little time to get use to really using the 0560/0561 and I think you'll be extremely happy with it.
 
A usable edge? I don't really understand what you meant by that. Are you saying your 0560 didn't come with a usable edge? I'm just trying to figure out what you meant, because my 0560 and 0561 came very sharp. Speaking of which, I have a cut down to the bone on my pinky finger from my 0560. I havn't sharpened it, used it, and it's still the way it came.

I'm not trying to knock you. I'm actually curious if your edge came "bad".

No it came fairly sharp but it was about a 50 degree bevel, I layed it back to 30. Elmax will support a shallow angle. I do the same thing to most of my new knives that have grossly obtuse edges.
 
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Just received my ZT 0560 S/N 876 awesome knife but it looks like the thumbstuds or bladestop touch/hit the frame and liner from the marks on them..does anyone have this on their ZT ?

I may have flipped it 20 times now, you can also tell from the sound the knife makes when it locks up.

Before anyone says that its normal I have checked my 2 XM-18's flipper and non-flipper and 1 XM-24 not even a single mark and they been flipped like x thousand times, but my ZT 0551 has the same scratches/spots.

Just want to know if this is normal for a ZT ?
 
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Just received my ZT 0560 S/N 876, it looks like the thumbstuds/bladestop touch the frame and liner from the marks on them..does anyone have this on their ZT ?

Are you saying that in the open position the thumbstuds are touching the frame? This knife doesn't use a Stop-pin inside the frame but instead uses the thumbstuds as a stop-pin/s just like the 0551. Mine has a very slight marking on the frame where the thumbstuds hit when the blade is fully open. You have to look for the marks or you'd never notice. Hope this helps.
 
Just received my ZT 0560 S/N 876 awesome knife but it looks like the thumbstuds or bladestop touch/hit the frame and liner from the marks on them..does anyone have this on their ZT ?

I may have flipped it 20 times now, you can also tell from the sound the knife makes when it locks up.

Before anyone says that its normal I have checked my 2 XM-18's flipper and non-flipper and 1 XM-24 not even a single mark and they been flipped like x thousand times, but my ZT 0551 has the same scratches/spots.

Mine does it... the ZT is not a Hinderer, so you can't really compare them in this fashion. Also the ZT contacts on both sides where the Hinderer doesn't due to one of it's scales being only G10.
 
I think you need to get yourself a Hinderer 2nd 3rd or 4th Gen then, only the Hinderer Gen.1 has G-10 with half titanium liners, I will buy it of you. ;)

Maybe your confused with a Strider where the stop only hits 1 side, the titanium side with exception of the aluminum version...:D

All jokes aside, I don't want to compare ZT fit and finish with a Hinderer but still I want to know if all the ZT 0560's have this, I heard from some people that not all the ZT 0550/0551 have it, so maybe this is also the case for the ZT 0560.

A forum member from the Dutch knifeforum, has a bend stop and very late lockup now, I can see this happening with the stop hitting the frame a thousand times.
 
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I think you need to get yourself a Hinderer 2nd 3rd or 4th Gen then, only the Hinderer Gen.1 has G-10 with half titanium liners, I will buy it of you. ;)

Maybe your confused with a Strider where the stop only hits 1 side, the titanium side with exception of the aluminum version...:D

All jokes aside, I don't want to compare ZT fit and finish with a Hinderer but still I want to know if all the ZT 0560's have this, I heard from some people that not all the ZT 0550/0551 have it, so maybe this is also the case for the ZT 0560.

A forum member from the Dutch knifeforum, has a bend stop and very late lockup now, I can see this happening with the stop hitting the frame a thousand times.

You are right, I was thinking of Strider:barf:
 
Lets wait for some other ZT flipper owners, maybe its a "isolated" issue or the knife will eventually break in and no further wear will occur, anyway on the original Hinderer design its not happening.
 
Are you saying that in the open position the thumbstuds are touching the frame? This knife doesn't use a Stop-pin inside the frame but instead uses the thumbstuds as a stop-pin/s just like the 0551. Mine has a very slight marking on the frame where the thumbstuds hit when the blade is fully open. You have to look for the marks or you'd never notice. Hope this helps.
I understand that the studs are for stopping the blade, but I flipped mine only 40 times by now and it shows wear on the studs like on my ZT 0551, my Hinderer XM-18's and my XM-24 I flipped maybe 1000's of times and show no wear.

So technically speaking either the fit of the stud to frame and liner is a couple of thousands off and will eventually break-in, or the lock on the Hinderer XM's is that well fitted it prevents the stud to hit the frame and liner in the first place.
 
Neither my 0551, nor 0560 display signs of wear on the locking studs, and they both have been "flipped" many times.
 
Thanks for the reply Pilot1, so that means that both your knives have better (zero :D ) tolerances, lets wait for some more responses on this.

I am not really worried because my ZT 0551 still works fine but the big question is how this will develop in the long run.

The last thing I want is to send my knife back to the US unless its a real problem, and so far its not.
 
@00ChevyScott: I actually use all my knives, and this is not a complain but a technical question.

Maybe I am spoiled with knives that have better tolerances, and you think this is just normal...;)

I have a fellow Dutch forum member who had a ZT 0560 with this issue and after a while one of his thumbstuds was bent and the knife was locking very late.

And if you would have read the previous post of Pilot1 you would have seen that this is not happening on all the ZT knives including the ZT 0551, so before you make some off-topic remark try and understand the question.

BTW Looking at your thread here your knives never touched anything :D : http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/s...ome-group-photos-with-the-rest-of-the-ZT-gang

All jokes aside even if its a collector or just for fondling or however you want to call it, this should not happen IMHO.
 
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