New ZT0550!!!

[jonnymac44]

Well I guess it's time for us to get busy and build this thing already.

Consider this post me smiling!!

 

[MoreToasties]

!! imagine if they ...spantoed? this thing!!
thatd be sooo sweet

+1, minus the grammar

 

[banana-clip]

Well I guess it's time for us to get busy and build this thing already.

Heck yeah....:thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:

 

[J_Curd]

This might sound controversial, but the 0300 was already a production XM-18ish knife in my mind. It always had more in common with the hinderer designs then the strider designs IMO. I'm not bashing the 055X, I just wish it had more to offer pre-existing 030X owners in terms of innovation and resemblance

When ever I stare at my 0301 from this angle, it's hard not to mistake it for a XM...

What does the 030X have in common with the XM designs?

1-S30v blade
2-G10 scale
3-Framelock
4-Hinderer stabilizer
5-Flipper
6-Metal liner on G10 side
7-Thumb stud blade stop
8-Blade stop contacts both sides of the handle
9-Framelock cutout on outside


What does the 055X have in common with the XM designs?

1-G10 scale
2-Framelock
3-Hinderer stabilizer
4-Thumb stud blade stop
5-Blade stop when closed
6-Esthetically more similar looking, incl. blade grind

I will probly end up buying a 055X, but it's pretty pointless to own both a 0300 and a 0550, probably end up keeping just one. These two knives will really be duking it out in terms of sales. In fact, they will probably end up cannibalizing each other's sales. ZT will have a firebird vs camero scenario on their hands pretty soon. But the new hinderer, given its obvious appeal and hype will probably be crowned the victor.

Do you own both the 0301 and the 350? Those are virtually the same design and the 0350 is an entirely different knife. The ZT0550/0551 are going to be more akin to the 0350 in size...it will be nothing like the 030X models.

Good features don't equate to the same design.

 

[nevermind35]

......spanto.....

 

[Schuey2002]

Well I guess it's time for us to get busy and build this thing already.

We are ready anytime you are.......

 

[unwisefool]

Sooooooo I really want one but what is the difference between the 2 different steels?

 

[Hondo.3]

I'm getting married in a few months. I was planning on getting some SAK Pioneers engraved for my two groomsmen, but now I'm thinking that I should get some ZT0550s for them instead. If I were standing up for someone, I think that's definitely the kind of gift that I'd like to get.

TC

 

[vpsaline]

What kind of innovation are you thinking of?

I'm not really in a position to say. But I do know that two distinct differences between the 030X and 055X were that one had a choil and a glassbreaker, the other did not. Now, those practical differences are gone. Im not for or against those changes, it's just that I'm disappointed that both knives are even more similar then they were before. I wish they were more distinct from one another.

A spanto would definitely be a step in the right direction. My collection is missing a spanto and that grind has always intrigued me! Maybe a full "open", pillar back spacer design and partial metal liner on the g10 would really win me over and would be a first for a ZT framelock knife, if I'm not mistaken? Now those three "simple" alterations are what I would call innovative! From there on...a non-assisted flipper would be asking to much I know!

I would also disagree. I might not understand your post but, I was under the impression that the 300/301/302 were Strider/Onion designed. Last time I checked, SnGs & XM-18s don't look anything alike. You look at a XM-18 and a ZT301 and see similar design elemets?

So your saying the 0301 was a strider design because it had tiger stripping, but "looked nothing like" a XM-18? lol, ok. I see your point!

I'll have to disagree with you there. Not all XM-18s had flippers and many didn't have S30V.

So you're saying the 055X's finger guard without flipper action and ELMAX/VANAX steel has more in common with XM designs then the 030X use of an actual flipper/finger guard and S30v? I see your point!

You look at a XM-18 and a ZT301 and see similar design elemets?

I think a blind person would see similar design elements.

 

[IGotStabbed]

There is a Spanto, that's the secret modification!

 

[MoreToasties]

I'm not really in a position to say. But I do know that two distinct differences between the 030X and 055X were that one had a choil and a glassbreaker, the other did not. Now, those practical differences are gone. Im not for or against those changes, it's just that I'm disappointed that both knives are even more similar then they were before. I wish they were more distinct from one another.

A spanto would definitely be a step in the right direction. My collection is missing a spanto and that grind has always intrigued me! Maybe a full "open", pillar back spacer design and partial metal liner on the g10 would really win me over and would be a first for a ZT framelock knife, if I'm not mistaken? Now those three "simple" alterations are what I would call innovative! From there on...a non-assisted flipper would be asking to much I know!



So your saying the 0301 was a strider design because it had tiger stripping, but "looked nothing like" a XM-18? lol, ok. I see your point!



So you're saying the 055X's finger guard without flipper action and ELMAX/VANAX steel has more in common with XM designs then the 030X use of an actual flipper/finger guard and S30v? I see your point!



I think a blind person would see similar design elements.

You don't sound smart, you sound like an ass. You picked snippets of great posts and responded to the isolated sentence, without context. Where did you learn to debate? I hope you didn't pay for your education.

 

[vpsaline]

You don't sound smart, you sound like an ass. You picked snippets of great posts and responded to the isolated sentence, without context. Where did you learn to debate? I hope you didn't pay for your education.

Thank you for sharing such substance and insight :jerkit:. BTW, resorting to insulting sum1, is a sign that you dont know anything about debating.

You picked snippets of great posts and responded to the isolated sentence, without context.

I'll have to disagree with you there. Not all XM-18s had flippers and many didn't have S30V.

I think the 0550/1 perfectly represents Rick's willingness to experiment with different steels and designs.

Good on you, Rick and Thomas.

wait, what crucial peice did I leave out?

 

[RevDevil]

Go to the ZT site, and select search by designers and read for yourself. I'm not trying to derail the thread by arguing with you. Just read for yourself. I'm saying that the 301 is a Strider/Onion design because the website that corresponds to the makers and owners of the knife say so. It seems like you are just aching for a forum fight...
http://www.kershawknives.com/products.php?search_by=designer&brand=zt

 

[sjhong]

I'm getting married in a few months. I was planning on getting some SAK Pioneers engraved for my two groomsmen, but now I'm thinking that I should get some ZT0550s for them instead. If I were standing up for someone, I think that's definitely the kind of gift that I'd like to get.

TC

Where's the wedding? If you want, I can be one of the groomsmen. I'm drug-free, love knives and look amazing in a tux.

 

[vpsaline]

Go to the ZT site, and select search by designers and read for yourself. I'm not trying to derail the thread by arguing with you. Just read for yourself. I'm saying that the 301 is a Strider/Onion design because the website that corresponds to the makers and owners of the knife say so. It seems like you are just aching for a forum fight...
http://www.kershawknives.com/products.php?search_by=designer&brand=zt

You tried to quickly discredit what I said because a website told you what to think? Think for yourself for a change.

forget what websites tell you to think, show me an angle where a strider resembles a 0300 this much...

I apologize for beeing such a crackhead. So much for a "strider tiger stripped design".

 

[RevDevil]

You are a hoot!

 

[Dnullify]

If i understand correctly You're saying that the top view of the 3xx series resembles the XM-18, and are insinuating that the XM design was involved.

I think that every other aesthetic aspect of the 3xx series has very little resemblance to the XM's design, and frankly i don't see why the vertical profile and top grind bothers you so much.

First of all, as far as i know, the 5XX series is not meant to be a production version of the XM. (Rick, feel free to correct me).

In addition, this is the first hinderer-zt collaboration, and he likely had nothing to do with the 3xx series.

I don't know what point you're trying to make - but whatever it is - it makes no sense.

 

[vpsaline]

I don't know what point you're trying to make - but whatever it is - it makes no sense.

this makes no sense?

are insinuating that the XM design was involved.

interesting....You're right, this sort of thing is purely accidental.

I think that every other aesthetic aspect of the 3xx series has very little resemblance to the XM's design

What does the 030X have in common with the XM designs?

1-S30v blade
2-G10 scale
3-Framelock
4-Hinderer stabilizer
5-Flipper
6-Metal liner on G10 side
7-Thumb stud blade stop
8-Blade stop contacts both sides of the handle
9-Framelock cutout on outside

So "looks" and resemblance are more important to you than actual mechanics?

 

[PG5768]

It appears we've picked up a Troll. Is this a brand new Troll or a returning Troll?

Regardless, DNFTT.

 

[vpsaline]

It appears we've picked up a Troll. DNFTT.

Is this a brand new Troll or a returning Troll?

I am not a troll. I think it is just hypocritical/ignorant to think that ZT/Strider/RH dont go full circle with each other, prior the 055X colab.